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Re: SVD.se: \"Solens aktivitet påverkar klimatet\"
#73


Är det komiskt... eller vad är det - sjukt är det i vilket fall.

Posted on: 2009/8/28 23:59
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Re: Till försvar för George Soros
#74


Jodå jag har läst...

Du kan bortse från det där inställelsebeskedet som har skickats till dig från Avdelningen... det kan anstå... hehe...

Posted on: 2009/8/28 23:53
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Re: Det JAG är
#75


\"Människor har format mig, min omgivning har skapat min verklighet.\"

Vänd på det - du har format dig själv, orsak och verkan - tro inte att \"andra\" inte är vad du själv har beställt. Som den newage-komaismaktivist du är så tror du på att du är ett offer i tillvaron och det är andras dumma fel.

\"Väldigt många av oss som är vakna...\" - vänd på det, du sover, eller är snarare i koma. Varför kallar du dig för vaken?

\"... skrev det hastigt och jag orkar inte korrekturläsa efter en lång arbetsdag. får bli sängen nästa\".

Jepp, Avdelningen låses klockan 23.

Vakna gott.

Posted on: 2009/8/28 22:52
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Re: Honungsbins framtid
#76


Ny artikel:

Mobiltelefon ökar risken för hjärntumör
http://www.epochtimes.se/articles/2009/08/27/17713.html

Posted on: 2009/8/28 0:18
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Re: Top Ten Natural Ways to Remove Heavy Metals
#77


Tror tyvärr att det är mycket bs däri.

Varför skulle tex selen ta bort kvicksilver?

Posted on: 2009/8/27 19:34
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Re: Vaken Chatt + Skapa ett mirakel
#78


Quote:

FangShen skrev:
Nej du har jagat planeten du vet.

Du kommer ihåg varför du föddes och liven du valde.

Det jag minns innan mina liv minns jag och du kan inte ändra på det.

Jag döptes till draken och jag har fått alla mina gammla liv mer elelr mindre förstörda och blivigt mördad av denna vidriga elit.

Ni födde mig och jag lever för rättfördigheten och sanningen är min budbärare därav ska jag vittna för era handlingar

Krig är på G - KRIG Snarkman Krig.

Förändring snarkman förändring.

Sanningen kom tillbaks.

Det är vi som avgör och ingen annan.

Jag kan bara säga att jag är på min egen resa , mitt uppvaknande gick jävligt fort men jag var förberedd.

Jag vet så mycket som jag sagt och mer därtill.

Jag säger inte att jag vet allt för att sannigen är inget ett ord kan uttala och inget man kan hålla i.

Enda sättet och ha kontakt med den är genom att vara.

Genom harmoni och ett tystat sinne kan man stärka sinnet och därigenom harmoni mellan läraren eleven och sinnet.

Jag har inte samma mission i livet som dig eller dom andra.

Jag är en upphöjare av sanningar och stärker energier i grupp.

Jag har studerat en hel del, men det mesta esoteriska som jag lärt vilket borde vara likadant för dig är på egen hand genom att känna sig fram.

Lev i sanning


De som är mest lost är de som minst kan/vill inse det...

Jag hinner inte (och har inte heller någon lust) ge respons till dekisflum.

Håll till godo med det jag (Novax/Drklot???)redan postat, så länge:

http://vaken.se/modules/newbb/viewtop ... t_id=67083#forumpost67083

http://vaken.se/modules/newbb/viewtop ... t_id=66761#forumpost66761

http://vaken.se/modules/newbb/viewtop ... t_id=67086#forumpost67086

Posted on: 2009/8/27 13:53
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Re: Vaken Chatt + Skapa ett mirakel
#79


Nejdå, jag vet sedan gammalt att seilon bara upprepar new age.

Du kan heller inte säga att du alls har någon förståelse om vad som \"är på g\".

Posted on: 2009/8/27 13:22
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Re: Vaken Chatt + Skapa ett mirakel
#80


New Age-grejer... saker och ting är inte som ni låtit andra mata er med.

Ge mig namn på en person som \"vaknat upp\".

Posted on: 2009/8/27 13:04
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Re: Honungsbins framtid
#81


Det har precis kommit en rapport som beställdes av det österrikiska försäkringsbolaget AUVA.

Läser man överst nu på Roberts blogg (http://www.mobilsmog.se) så skriver han om det.
Det är mycket bra och alarmerande information i den vetenskapliga rapporten, den är väldigt viktig och är något som folket \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"måste få\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" veta.
Där står conclusions från rapporten:
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"...so it is not a question of insufficient evidence anymore. This is now about the conflict between commercial interests of an industry supported by the government and the protection of public health.

The BUND warns:
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"The ubiquitous exposure to this unnatural type of radiation at unprecedented levels of power density harms human health. Short-term and long-term health impairments are reprogrammed and will especially manifest in the next generation if politically responsible actions are not taken immediately.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"

......

Det är sedan länge varnat om att sparvarna har försvunnit från Englands städer/stadskärnor, som City of London - detta har skett i samma takt som master har satts dit.

Study begins into disappearance of house sparrow from London
Utusan Express, 19 June 2002
This spring, scientists could find just four of the birds in Kensington Gardens, although other bird species continue to thrive there. The birds have disappeared from other sites including St. James Park, Hyde Park and Buckingham Palace, where they used to nest in the gates.
http://www.jphpk.gov.my/Malay/formaduan/English/June02%2019A.htm

Mobile phones blamed for sparrow deaths | UK news | The Observer
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/jan/12/science.highereducation

Why there are no House Sparrows in London\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s Royal Parks
http://www.sparrowsneedhedges.com/why_no_royal_park_sparrows.html

The secret life of sparrows
The complete disappearance of mankind\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s oldest feathered friend from the centre of many British cities is a modern mystery.
nejdå..
...the rapid and virtually total disappearance of central London\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s sparrows - they seem to have started going in about 1990 and were gone by the Millennium - is a true mystery, one of the most puzzling enigmas in nature for very many years.
mainstreammedia/science...
http://www.independent.co.uk/environm ... e-of-sparrows-410252.html


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#661:The Emerging Global Pattern of Insect Pollinator Decline
Thursday March 01st 2007, 10:19 pm
Filed under: Bees and Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD), etc

In December 2006 a paper by Olle Johansson, \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"How Shall we Cope With the Increasing Amounts of AIrborne Radiation?\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" was published in the print Journal of the Australasian College of Nutritional & Environmental Medicine (www.acnem.org). This paper examines an increase in illness in the population of Sweden and the increasing background level of microwave radiation as a result of new wireless technology. To quote in part from the paper:

\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"We found a very close correlation between the growth in sickness, sick-leave and other similar parameters and the expansion of the new GSM 1800 mobile telephone system. The interesting point was that the rise in sickness in Sweden considered county by county increased rapidly during the period October 1997 to January 1998. Long periods of sick leave, depression, attempted suicides, percentages of persons on sick leave (especially in large concerns), industrial accidents, etc., all increased. We could see that this negative development coincided in time with the development of the new telephone system and that ther study county by county showed a correlation with the mean strength of the mobile radiation.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"
So if a human population can be adversely affected by the introduction of a new microwave wave form in the environment is there a possibility that some other creatures may be affected as well? Consider the case of the decline of the honey bee. Perhaps their antennas are increasingly picking up confusing signals..


After you read the following article consider the importance of research that urgently needs to be done but unfortunately who would ever dare fund such \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'controversial\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\' research?
http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/?p=662

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\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"Will Some Device Save The Bees from Bee-Colony Collapse Disorder?\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"

Does this radiation, which is emitted from the mobile phone masts and between microwave relay stations and to which many residents are also exposed, also pose a danger to animals? Siegfried Vogel from the Selbitz area of Hüttung believes the radiation emitted from the multitude of surrounding mobile phone masts is responsible for the loss of his four bee colonies during the past year.Mr. Vogel is not alone in his assessment. The loss of birds has also been suspected as being caused by the mobile phone radiation. Recently, there have been numerous reports on the Internet concerning the impairment and loss of bees and messenger pigeons. The authors of these articles are attributing this loss to mobile phone mast radiation. The loss of birds is also spurring fears that the whole of nature may be at risk due to the ever-increasing electromagnetic radiation from mobile phones and the like.
http://www.laleva.org/eng/2007/04/pro ... bile_phone_radiation.html

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#664: DECT and bee decline
Saturday March 03rd 2007, 7:47 am
Filed under: Bees and Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD), etc
From Alfonso Balmori
In a recent study carried out with bees in Germany, only few irradiated bees (with DECT) returned to the beehive and required more time to reach the hive. The weight of honeycombs is also smaller in the bees that were irradiated...
http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/?p=665

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Are Electromagnetic Waves the Culprit
A Warning From Deformed Plants
Se bilder:
http://www.japanfocus.org/-Kato-Yasuko/1568
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Animal Study EMF Radiation
Photos of animal deformities caused by microwaves
http://members.aol.com/gotemf/emf/animals.htm

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Cell phone tower radiation may be killing plants and animals

Ever wondered where the butterflies, some insects and birds like sparrows have vanished? Well, your constantly ringing cell phones could be responsible for this.A study conducted by three departments of Panjab University has found that cell phone towers are the dominating source of electromagnetic radiations in environment in the city and this could lead to diseases in plants and animals.
http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=226423
....

Honey Bee Crisis extends from US to Britain and Netherlands
http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/?p=664

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Cell phones
Experts investigating biological effects of cell phone radiation
asked to shut up or quit jobs
http://www.laleva.cc/environment/cellphones.html

Posted on: 2009/8/27 12:23
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Re: Starta vakenby i Portugal
#82


Skogsliv vid Walden hette nog boken för att vara helt ok.

Man kan odla Spirulina själv, apropå protein.

Se mina/Novax inlägg här:

http://www.surf-anon.com/?q=aHR0cDovL ... t_id=79115#forumpost79115

Posted on: 2009/8/26 1:38
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Re: Honungsbins framtid
#83


Såg ni ovan tex det som Olle Johansson sa?

\\\"#661:The Emerging Global Pattern of Insect Pollinator Decline
Thursday March 01st 2007, 10:19 pm
Filed under: Bees and Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD), etc
In December 2006 a paper by Olle Johansson...\\\"

Kom att tänka på sparvar... - jag har i ett inlägg tidigare tipsat om en artikel på Epoch Times om det - jag har för mig att jag ser aldrig sparvar här på torget i Varberg, apropå de döende träden på torget som Robert skrev om på sin blogg.

Jag kollade idag på torget, därfinns träd, gräsmattor, buskar, utefik etc... borde det inte vara sparvar där... var det inte sparvar förr kring uteserveringar o dyl... men inte en sparv, bara kajor och måsar.

Det är larmat om att sparvarna till stor del försvinner från England städer, i samma takt som miljöerna/stadskärnor hamnar under strålningstryckseländet. So tex i City of London (del av London), där är nog bara reptilenergi... + master...

Jag kan ge länkar senare.

Någon som har någon fundering eller observation just kring att sparvar skulle ha försvunnit, därman förr såg dom?

Posted on: 2009/8/25 18:16
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Re: Honungsbins framtid
#84


Parsifal, olika personer säger och kanske fastnar vid just det som de råkat komma över av info...

Här om bin och elektromagnetisk strålning:

#664: DECT and bee decline
Saturday March 03rd 2007, 7:47 am
Filed under: Bees and Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD), etc
From Alfonso Balmori
In a recent study carried out with bees in Germany, only few irradiated bees (with DECT) returned to the beehive and required more time to reach the hive. The weight of honeycombs is also smaller in the bees that were irradiated

Stever H, Kuhn J, Otten C, Wunder B, Harst W. Verhaltensanderung unter elektromagnetischer Exposition.Pilotstudie. Institut fu¨ r mathematik. Arbeitsgruppe. Bildungsinformatik. Universita¨t Koblenz-Landau; 2005. http://agbi.uni-landau.de/materialien.htm

See also

www.mikrowellensmog.info/bienen.html web from Dr. Ferdinand Ruzicka, Doz University.

and

http://canterbury.cyberplace.org.nz/ouruhia/

and

Firstenberg, A. 1997: Microwaving Our Planet: The Environmental Impact of the Wireless Revolution. Cellular Phone Taskforce. Brooklyn, NY 11210.

With best regards

Alfonso Balmori. Spain
http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/?p=665

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Science News Article
Honey Bee Crisis extends from US to Britain and Netherlands
http://vegetablegardens.suite101.com/ ... .cfm/science_news_article
© Sally Morton

Sep 28, 2006

Science News: A study by Jacobus Biesmeijer and William Kunin (Leeds University), showing declines in pollinators and insect-pollinated plants in Britain and Netherlands.

In July of 2006, an article appeared in La Monde, entitled, “The Number and Variety of Pollinating Insects in Europe Are Diminishing Significantly.” It was written by Christiane Galus. Rating hardly a blip on the radar of the international mainstream news, this article passed through the maze of media sources without notice by most of the world’s inhabitants. Since I was following the Honey Bee Crisis in the US as well, I paid attention.

Here is an excerpt:

“A study conducted by Jacobus Biesmeijer and William Kunin (Leeds University, United Kingdom) and a team of British, German, and Dutch researchers and published in the July 21 issue of Science confirms that the threat is serious. By studying different areas of Great Britain and the Netherlands, scientists observed that wild bees have paid the heaviest toll, with a 52% reduction in their diversity with respect to their situation in 1980 in Great Britain and a 67% reduction in the Netherlands…”

Now, those are two disturbing sentences, and it prompted me to go search current science news and read the scientific study cited. In conducting the investigatory scientific study, the team of scientists considered more than one million data points. Here is an excerpt from the abstract:

“…we found evidence of declines (pre-versus-post-1980) in local bee diversity in both countries… pollinator declines were most frequent in habitat and flower specialists, in univoltine species, and/or in nonmigrants. In conjunction with this evidence, outcrossing plant species that are reliant on the declining pollinators have themselves declined relative to other plant species. Taken together, these findings strongly suggest a causal connection…”

See “Parallel Declines in Pollinators and Insect-Pollinated Plants in Britain and the Netherlands” (Science, 21 July 2006: Vol. 313. no. 5785, pp. 351 – 354).

You may listen to the Science Podcast, ”Pollination in Trouble,” an Interview with Dr. William “Bill” Kunin, University of Leeds, a co-author of the study.

A transcript excerpt from the interview:

“…there were not only fewer species, there were different species, and that’s part of what raised concern…they tended to be losing habitat specialists, diet specialists, all the sort of specialist bees and hover flies, and the generalists were increasing. And then…we started looking at plants…we were surprised to see a pretty strong pattern of decline in the vast majority of the insect-pollinated plants…while the wind-pollinated plants and the self-pollinated plants were either stable or increasing…”

When asked, “How worried should we be about this?” Dr. Kunin said it did not imply a global pollinator crisis, however:

“…It’s the first time anyone’s looked for national-scale declines in pollinators and in both the countries we looked for it, it was there…I’d be surprised if there aren’t some similar patterns elsewhere, but again, people have to go look for them.”

One can only hope that similar studies will immediately commence in the US, Canada, and other countries.

http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/?p=664

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#662: Species under threat: Honey, who shrunk the bee population?
Friday March 02nd 2007, 8:38 am
Filed under: Bees and Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD), etc
The story on the mysterious die-off of honey bees is in today’s media. Here’s an article in The Independent (UK) Sent in by Andy Davidson:
Species under threat: Honey, who shrunk the bee population?

Across America, millions of honey bees are abandoning their hives and flying off to die, leaving beekeepers facing ruin and US agriculture under threat. And to date, no one knows why.

Michael McCarthy reports

THE INDEPENDENT
Published: 01 March 2007
It has echoes of a murder mystery in polite society. There could hardly be a more sedate and unruffled world than beekeeping, but the beekeepers of the United States have suddenly encountered affliction, calamity and death on a massive scale. And they have not got a clue why it is happening.

Across the country, from the Atlantic coast to the Pacific, honey bee colonies have started to die off, abruptly and decisively. Millions of bees are abandoning their hives and flying off to die (they cannot survive as a colony without the queen, who is always left behind).

Some beekeepers, especially those with big portable apiaries, or bee farms, which are used for large-scale pollination of fruit and vegetable crops, are facing commercial ruin - and there is a growing threat that America’s agriculture may be struck a mortal blow by the loss of the pollinators. Yet scientists investigating the problem have no idea what is causing it.

The phenomenon is recent, dating back to autumn, when beekeepers along the east coast of the US started to notice the die-offs. It was given the name of fall dwindle disease, but now it has been renamed to reflect better its dramatic nature, and is known as colony collapse disorder.

It is swift in its effect. Over the course of a week the majority of the bees in an affected colony will flee the hive and disappear, going off to die elsewhere. The few remaining insects are then found to be enormously diseased - they have a “tremendous pathogen load”, the scientists say. But why? No one yet knows.

The condition has been recorded in at least 24 states. It is having a major effect on the mobile apiaries which are transported across the US to pollinate large-scale crops, such as oranges in Florida or almonds in California. Some have lost up to 90 per cent of their bees.

A reliable estimate of the true extent of the problem will not be possible for another month or so, until winter comes to an end and the hibernating bee colonies in the northern American states wake up. But scientists are very worried, not least because, as there is no obvious cause for the disease as yet, there is no way of tackling it.

“We are extremely alarmed,” said Diana Cox-Foster, the professor of Entomology at Penn States University and one of the leading members of a specially convened colony-collapse disorder working group.

“It is one of the most alarming insect diseases ever to hit the US and it has the potential to devastate the US beekeeping industry. In some ways it may be to the insect world what foot-and-mouth disease was to livestock in England.”

Most of the pollination for more than 90 commercial crops grown throughout the United States is provided byApis mellifera, the honey bee, and the value from the pollination to agricultural output in the country is estimated at $14.6bn (£8bn) annually. Growers rent about 1.5 million colonies each year to pollinate crops - a colony usually being the group of bees in a hive.

California’s almond crop, which is the biggest in the world, stretching over more than half a million acres over the state’s central valley, now draws more than half of the mobile bee colonies in America at pollinating time - which is now. Some big commercial beekeeping operations which have been hit hard by the current disease have had to import millions of bees from Australia to enable the almond trees to be pollinated.

Some of these mobile apiaries have been losing 60 or 70 per cent of their insects, or even more. “A honey producer in Pennsylvania doing local pollination, Larry Curtis, has gone from 1,000 bee colonies to fewer than eight,” said Professor Cox-Foster. The disease showed a completely new set of symptoms, “which does not seem to match anything in the literature”, said the entomologist.

One was that the bees left the hive and flew away to die elsewhere, over about a week. Another was that the few bees left inside the hive were carrying “a tremendous number of pathogens” - virtually every known bee virus could be detected in the insects, she said, and some bees were carrying five or six viruses at a time, as well as fungal infections. Because of this it was assumed that the bees’ immune systems were being suppressed in some way.

Professor Cox-Foster went on: “And another unusual symptom that we’re are seeing, which makes this very different, is that normally when a bee colony gets weak and its numbers are decreasing, other neighbouring bees will come and steal the resources - they will take away the honey and the pollen.

“Other insects like to take advantage too, such as the wax moth or the hive beetle. But none of this is happening. These insects are not coming in.

“This suggests that there is something toxic in the colony itself which is repelling them.”

The scientists involved in the working group were surveying the dead colonies but did not think the cause of the deaths was anything brought in by beekeepers, such as pesticides, she said.

Another of the researchers studying the collapses, Dennis van Engelsdorp, a bee specialist with the State of Pennsylvania, said it was still difficult to gauge their full extent. It was possible that the bees were fleeing the colonies because they sensed they themselves were diseased or affected in some way, he said. This behaviour has been recorded in other social insects, such as ants.

The introduction of the parasitic bee mite Varroa in 1987 and the invasion of the Africanised honey bee in 1990 have threatened honey bee colonies in the US and in other parts of the world, but although serious, they were easily comprehensible; colony collapse disorder is a deep mystery.

One theory is that the bees may be suffering from stress as beekeepers increasingly transport them around the country, the hives stacked on top of each other on the backs of trucks, to carry out pollination contracts in orchard after orchard, in different states.

Tens of billions of bees are now involved in this “migratory” pollination. An operator might go from pollinating oranges in Florida, to apples in Pennsylvania, to blueberries in Maine, then back to Massachusetts to pollinate cranberries.

The business is so big that pollination is replacing honey-making as the main money earner at the top end of the beekeeping market, not least because in recent years the US has been flooded with cheap honey imports, mainly from Argentina and China.

A typical bee colony, which might be anything from 15,000 to 30,000 bees, would be rented out to a fruit grower for about $135 - a price that is up from $55 only three years ago. To keep the bees’ energy up while they are pollinating, beekeepers feed them protein supplements and syrup carried around in large tanks.

It is in these migratory colonies where the biggest losses have been seen. But the stress theory is as much speculation as anything else. At the moment, the disappearance of America’s bees is as big a mystery as the disappearance of London’s sparrows.

http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/?p=663

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#661:The Emerging Global Pattern of Insect Pollinator Decline
Thursday March 01st 2007, 10:19 pm
Filed under: Bees and Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD), etc
In December 2006 a paper by Olle Johansson, “How Shall we Cope With the Increasing Amounts of AIrborne Radiation?” was published in the print Journal of the Australasian College of Nutritional & Environmental Medicine (www.acnem.org). This paper examines an increase in illness in the population of Sweden and the increasing background level of microwave radiation as a result of new wireless technology. To quote in part from the paper:

“We found a very close correlation between the growth in sickness, sick-leave and other similar parameters and the expansion of the new GSM 1800 mobile telephone system. The interesting point was that the rise in sickness in Sweden considered county by county increased rapidly during the period October 1997 to January 1998. Long periods of sick leave, depression, attempted suicides, percentages of persons on sick leave (especially in large concerns), industrial accidents, etc., all increased. We could see that this negative development coincided in time with the development of the new telephone system and that ther study county by county showed a correlation with the mean strength of the mobile radiation.”
So if a human population can be adversely affected by the introduction of a new microwave wave form in the environment is there a possibility that some other creatures may be affected as well? Consider the case of the decline of the honey bee. Perhaps their antennas are increasingly picking up confusing signals….

After you read the following article consider the importance of research that urgently needs to be done but unfortunately who would ever dare fund such ‘controversial’ research?

Don

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The Honey Bee Crisis of 2007
Escalating Honey Bee Decline Baffles Scientists
© Sally Morton

http://vegetablegardens.suite101.com/ ... _honey_bee_crisis_of_2007

Feb 17, 2007

The honey bee crisis in the United States has been escalating for several years, rising to “unprecedented” levels of honey bee losses between Oct 2006 and Feb 2007.

The honey bee crisis of 2005, which was blamed on the Varoa mite, decimated as much as 50% of honey bee populations in the US, but was weathered, overcome, and quickly passed out of most people’s vocabulary. I wrote an article about it for Suite 101, which you can read here. In it, I gave a fruit, vegetable, nut and wild plant list dependent upon insect pollination.

Approximately 80% of all insect pollination is accomplished by honey bees. According to the University of California at Davis publication “Don’t Underestimate the Value of Honey Bees,” the remaining 20% of other insect pollinators are drastically reduced in number as well, making one wonder if the problem is the varoa mite or something else affecting the broader insect world.

Honey Bee Pollination plays major role in Global Food Supply

The year 2006 passed seemingly without incident relating to honey bees and I breathed a sigh of relief. Why is it worrisome when bees die by the thousands? Three words: global food supply. The lowly honey bee is required for the pollination of a wide range of plants, affecting everything from clover (think cows) to fruits to vegetable seeds. Honey bee-pollinated crops represent more than $15 billion annually to the economy. That does not even take into consideration indirectly affected items, such as beef, milk, cheese, wild animals, or birds.

Fall of 2006 Reveals Decimated Bee Colonies

The problem is that 2006 did not pass without incident—it passed without media-reported incident. It was in the fall of 2006 when a distressed Pennsylvania beekeeper, Dave Hackenberg, reported to researchers at Pennsylvania State University that he had lost about 2,000 hives. To give you an idea of how many bees that is—each hive contains around 50,000 bees in summer. The mysterious bee ailment was dubbed “Colony Collapse Disorder.”

The last three months of 2006, beekeepers up and down the East Coast of the US were quietly reporting large bee losses. Alarm bells were ringing in the “beekeeper world.” By January of 2007, it had spread beyond the Eastern US and Western states were also reporting bee losses. As beekeepers in colder regions start reporting their bee colony status in spring, the figures are expected to rise even higher.

Escalating Bee Decline for More than a Decade

This week, I’ve learned that the honey bee crisis in the U.S. is back and its worse than ever. Or did it ever really leave? Two types of parasitic mites invaded the US—tracheal mites in 1984 and varroa mites in 1987. Bee populations have been steadily declining ever since.

2007 Honey Bee Crisis “Unprecedented”

In February of 2007, I read the first mainstream media article I’d seen on this year’s bee crisis, which said that beekeepers from 22 states so far have reported decimation of hives by as much as 80%, varying in degree of severity.

As I set out to find more information from leading authorities in the industry, I decided the best people to ask were the bee experts at the American Bee Federation. When I first clicked on their website’s homepage, I was greeted with this quote from a January 2007 Penn State press release:

“An alarming die-off of honey bees has beekeepers fighting for commercial survival and crop growers wondering whether bees will be available to pollinate their crops this spring and summer…” The losses were called “unprecedented” by Penn State Agriculture Extension Associate, Mary Ann Frazier.
Cause of Colony Collapse Disorder Eludes Investigators

Although the honey bee crisis of 2005 was attributed to the varoa mite, the 2006-2007 malady is of unknown origin. Researchers have been unable to isolate a common cause. While they have found numerous disease organisms present in dying bee populations, along with a few common management issues, the common link affecting all the populations continues to elude investigators. Dennis vanEngelsdorp, acting state apiarist with the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture said, “Preliminary work has identified several likely factors that could be causing or contributing to CCD. Among them are mites and associated diseases, some unknown pathogenic disease and pesticide contamination or poisoning.”

University and federal researchers, state regulatory officials, cooperative extension educators, and industry representatives have joined together to research the current bee crisis. The beekeeping industry, including the American Beekeeping Federation, The Foundation for the Preservation of Honey Bees, and the National Honey Board are all actively engaged in the effort.

The Mid-Atlantic Apiculture Research and Extension Consortium (MAAREC) is “a regional effort to address the pest management crisis facing the beekeeping industry in the Mid-Atlantic Region.” According to MAAREC, its mandate is: “Exploring the cause or causes of honey bee colony collapse and finding appropriate strategies to reduce colony loss in the future.”

Emerging Global Pattern of Insect Pollinator Decline

It’s hard for many to imagine how something as small and pesky as a honey bee could play such an important role in global food supply, but it does. Since the decline of insect pollinators fits into an emerging global pattern of insect pollinator decline, shouldn’t the current US honey bee crisis be investigated from a wider world view?
http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/?p=662

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Nyare, bl a om pesticider som orsak:

http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/?p=948
http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/?s=honey&submit=GO

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\\\"Will Some Device Save The Bees from Bee-Colony Collapse Disorder?\\\"
Does this radiation, which is emitted from the mobile phone masts and between microwave relay stations and to which many residents are also exposed, also pose a danger to animals? Siegfried Vogel from the Selbitz area of Hüttung believes the radiation emitted from the multitude of surrounding mobile phone masts is responsible for the loss of his four bee colonies during the past year.Mr. Vogel is not alone in his assessment. The loss of birds has also been suspected as being caused by the mobile phone radiation. Recently, there have been numerous reports on the Internet concerning the impairment and loss of bees and messenger pigeons. The authors of these articles are attributing this loss to mobile phone mast radiation. The loss of birds is also spurring fears that the whole of nature may be at risk due to the ever-increasing electromagnetic radiation from mobile phones and the like.
http://www.laleva.org/eng/2007/04/pro ... obile_phone_radiation.htm
http://prd34.blogspot.com/2007/07/emf ... ee-yahoogroups-links.html

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Det under från http://prd34.blogspot.com/2007/07/emf ... ee-yahoogroups-links.html

Cell phone tower radiation may be killing plants and animals

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Are Electromagnetic Waves the Culprit
A Warning From Deformed Plants
Se bilder:
http://www.japanfocus.org/-Kato-Yasuko/1568
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Animal Study EMF Radiation
Photos of animal deformities caused by microwaves
http://members.aol.com/gotemf/emf/animals.htm

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Cell Phones
Experts investigating biological effects of cell phone radiation
http://www.laleva.cc/environment/cellphones.html

Cell phone tower radiation may be killing plants and animals
Ever wondered where the butterflies, some insects and birds like sparrows have vanished? Well, your constantly ringing cell phones could be responsible for this.A study conducted by three departments of Panjab University has found that cell phone towers are the dominating source of electromagnetic radiations in environment in the city and this could lead to diseases in plants and animals.
http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=226423

http://prd34.blogspot.com/2007/07/emf ... ee-yahoogroups-links.html

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Sandu K. (2007). \\\"Cell phone tower radiation may be killing plants and animals.\\\" Ludhihana Newsline. http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=226423
http://www.buergerwelle.de/pdf/do_you ... ness5%5B4%5Dfootnotes.rtf

Posted on: 2009/8/25 0:26
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Re: Honungsbins framtid
#85


Jag ser att Robert nu har lagt ut om träd som är sjuka/dör i Varberg på grund av strålning.
Så undrar en del som har dect, trådlöst, mobil, grannar som har det så det går genom väggarna, och kanske mobilmaster utanför... varför de mår dåligt...

http://www.mobilsmog.se/2009/08/nu-do ... -kyrkan-och-pa-andra.html

Posted on: 2009/8/24 14:16
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Re: Infoblad om vaccin klart
#86


Det var teide som gjorde det.
Jag har dock för mig att jag för ett bra tag seedan också sagt det, tex det om rättslig och kanadensiskt mm, men det inlägget har nog komadmin raderat så du hann då aldrig läsa det.

Posted on: 2009/8/23 13:24
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Re: Infoblad om vaccin klart
#87


Rättsprocess duger bra.

Posted on: 2009/8/23 12:49
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Re: Kunskap är INTE frihet!
#88


Kunskap är inte frihet...

Skulle (en) budda sagt att kunskap är frihet - nej, det är 180 grader fel.

Kunskap är lögn och bojor, kunskapens frukt som var förbjuden... för det är bara saker från fängelsenivån, och är för att hålla oss kvar.

Kunskap är kanske den yttersta onda religionen, och en iscensättning.

Man har vänt sig mot sitt ursprung, gud och villäta kunskapens frukt i fängelset... \"...Lucifer, and his band of deceivers, had hijacked this planet... he controlled world governments and their people.\"

Hela (alldeles nya) utskicket från Jonathan Gray:

ARCHAEOLOGY NEWSFLASH 160

There is a man in India who has been staring at the sun
every day for 20 years!

He went blind after six months of his sun staring, but he
still gazes upwards with his ghostly, SIGHTLESS eyes!

Poor man! But, guess what! It’s good news for some people.

Oh, come on! Good news? What are you talking about?
…someone says.

Very well, have you heard the name Lucifer?
Just in case you were not aware, “Lucifer” means
“shining, burning light”, that is the Sun.
In all my archaeology researches, one sure thing comes up
– ancient civilizations were not dumb. In many respects,
their technology surpassed ours.

These ancient cultures had access to information that many
of us don’t know about.

And they were convinced that an entity known as Lucifer,
and his band of deceivers, had hijacked this planet.

They firmly believed that, behind the scenes, he controlled
world governments and their people.

And they were aware that the attitude of the Legion of
Lucifer toward the human race was one of jealousy, hatred
and sadism.

Lucifer was also known as Satan, or the devil.

And what a mean character! …obsessed with a passion that
men and women would honor him, instead of their Maker.

His sign was the writhing, creeping serpent, or snake.

And this was ultimately to inspire the birth of a number
of religious movements to worship the snake, even to our
day.

Oh, come on, I hear someone say. Why would intelligent
people honor something so repulsive – a reptile that
everyone feared and despised?

Actually, the solution wasn’t so difficult, when you think
about it.

Would you like to know how the instigators pulled it off?

CODED IN A PROPHECY

You’ll find the key in the world’s oldest prophecy – a
prophecy celebrated by the Greeks, the Mexicans, Babylonians,
Egyptians, Indians and others.

You see, all civilizations believed that the first man and
woman had fallen under the power of this evil character and
his crew.

These civilizations also believed that the Creator had
promised mankind rescue.

The original prophecy was encoded in these terms:

When the Deliverer (“the woman’s Seed”) comes, the serpent
will wound him in the heel. However, the Deliverer will
finally win, by crushing the serpent’s head.

The expectation was BIG worldwide, concerning this Coming
One.

In the very earliest times, this expected Messiah was
associated with the bringing of spiritual light to the
hearts of men and women.

THE IMPOSTER

Now fast forward to the time of Nimrod, on the plain of
Shinar, Mesopotamia, about 2200 BC.

In those miserable climatic conditions following the Great
Flood, the sun soon came to be looked upon with special
regard.

Combine that with a popular desire for physical images of
the deity, and it was a simple matter for some to begin
adoring the sun.

Thus, under the influence of Nimrod, sun worship was
instituted with comparable ease.

Nimrod’s crafty theologians now began their twisting and
turning. Their aim: to get Lucifer honoured.

It’s so clever, you’ll hardly believe it!

Whereas the expected Messiah, in the earliest times, was
associated with the bringing of spiritual LIGHT, this
symbolic meaning was now insidiously displaced by
‘actuality’, physical LIGHT, represented by the sun.

This process of corruption began at Babel, in Mesopotamia.
Then, as the people were ultimately dispersed over the
earth, they took it with them.

And so, all over this planet, sun-plates and sun-pillars
began to arise. And the smoke of strange altars ascended
to honor the sun god, who became the highest god.

NOT AN INNOCENT INVENTION

Was sun worship just an innocent thing, into which people
might have naturally, and innocently drifted?

Come on gang. It’s time to get real. It was a carefully
engineered plan.

Now watch the deliberate subterfuge. Are you ready for
this? Here it comes…

In the original world language, the sun was called
“Shemesh” – “Servant”.

One may suspect that this name was originally given, to
keep in mind the fact that, however glorious was the orb
of day, it was, after all, no more than a servant of
mankind!

So earth’s inhabitants looked into the sky and in the
First Tongue of mankind called it “Shemesh”, the Servant.

Then was engineered the Nimrod conspiracy – which was a
conscious move to purposely put the servant in the place
of the unseen Master, the Creator.

To get popular support, it would never do to keep calling
the sun “servant”.

So the crafty priests came up with the decision to call
the sun “Lord”.

In their language, the word “Baal” meant Lord… the
Supreme Master… a totally opposite meaning! So “Baal”
was the new name given to the sun.

A DELIBERATE change, you see!

Centuries rolled on. And at dawn services, from Asia to
Europe to South America, royal families, nobles and common
people stood silent and still, their eyes turned toward
the east, awaiting the great moment when the first
brilliant red rays should shine forth above the horizon.

In some countries, a human image representing the sun was
worshipped by casting live children into the fire in its
belly.

And who was behind this devilish development? Who was
giving orders for this to take place?

It was coming from séance sessions, if you please!
Someone was setting the people up! Some entity who
loved to feed on human misery.

THE SERPENT – LUCIFER’S OTHER SYMBOL

In exploring the remotest archaeological sites on earth,
the most consistent symbol I have found, apart from the
symbol of the sun, was that of the snake.

Sun worship and serpent worship went together.

In the mythology of the ancient world, the serpent is
universally the symbol of the sun.

In Egypt, one of the commonest symbols of the sun, or
sun god, is a disc with a serpent around it.

You ask, how did this link come about?

Well, all nations had in their traditions the memory of
the reptile serpent turning their first parents against
the Creator. For this reason, the snake became a special
emblem for Lucifer, or Satan, the tempter.

Should it surprise us, then, to discover that a
deliberate plan was hatched for snake worship to feature
at the top of this new religious system being set up for
the world to follow?

HOW TO GET THE SNAKE ACCEPTED

Wait a minute! Isn’t that a tall order? How on earth
could you ever get the serpent revered? After all,
human beings generally fear snakes… even hate them.
Right?

That’s true. So how to go about it?

FIVE SHREWD STEPS

Here comes the strategy. Stage One.

Nimrod’s priests were already saying that the Great Flood
had proceeded from the evil principle. So the great
serpent (the evil principle) became a symbol of the Flood.

So there is Step one – the snake became a recognised
public symbol… even if it was for something bad.

Now watch everything fall into place…

Just follow these subtle changes…

1. LUCIFER (THE “SERPENT”) AN EVIL HIJACKER

Firstly, the belief that Lucifer had taken maliciously
over this planet was accepted worldwide.

His team of fallen rebels were known by the Greeks as
Teitans.

In the Chaldean system, Teitan was just a synonym for
Typhon, the malignant Serpent or Dragon, who was
universally regarded as the Devil, or author of all
wickedness.

2. NIMROD THE HEROIC “SERPENT CRUSHER”

Secondly, in life the king of Babel, Nimrod, had been a
hero. With his hunting bands, he had delivered the
straggling populations from the fear of wild beasts.

After Nimrod’s violent death, his widow Semiramus spread
the word that Nimrod had been the promised Deliverer.
And that her newborn child Tammuz was Nimrod returning as
the promised Deliverer, to become the bruiser of the
serpent’s head.

This meant that he was going to destroy Lucifer’s rule
over the planet.

So it was that the Greeks would ultimately represent
their great god Apollo as slaying the serpent Pytho; and
Hercules as strangling serpents while yet in his cradle.

In Egypt, in India, in Scandinavia, in Mexico, we find
clear allusions to the same great truth.

Later, in Egypt, the child-god Horus, known also as “the
seed”, would be portrayed as standing on the head of a
crocodile and as bruising serpents in his hands.

Likewise in India, the malignant serpent Calyia is slain
by Vishnu, in his avatar of Krishna.

Again, the Scandinavian deity Thor was said to have
bruised the head of the great serpent with his mace.

All these can be traced back to the original prophecy –
which is recorded in the book of Genesis.

Concerning a similar belief among the Mexicans, Humboldt
observes:

The serpent crushed by the great spirit Teotl, when he
takes the form of one of the subaltern deities, is the
genius of evil – a real Kakodaemon. (Humboldt, Mexican
Researches, vol. I, p. 228)

In the legend of the Indian god Krishna, he is
represented in pictures and images with his foot on the
serpent’s head. (Coleman, Indian Mythology, Plate xii,
p. 34) And then, after destroying it, he is fabled to
have died as the result of being shot by an arrow in the
foot. (Pococke, India in Greece, p. 300)

Significantly, in almost all cases, when the subject is
examined to the bottom, it turns out that the
serpent-destroying god is represented as enduring
hardships and sufferings that end in his death.

Not so good for Lucifer and his mob. How on earth could
this be twisted around so that Lucifer could receive
worship?

Easy. Get the pagan theologians onto the job. And they
came up with this clever twist…

3. CONSOLE AND BEFRIEND THE SERPENT

Step three: Give Lucifer himself a certain measure of
respect, to “console him for the loss of his power,”
and to prevent him from hurting them. And so that’s
exactly what the pagans actually came to say.
(Plutarch, De Iside, vol. ii, p. 362)

4. LINK THE SERPENT TO THE PRESTIGIOUS SUN
Step four: A logical follow through was now to link
the sun and serpent together.

And here, apparently, was the reason given: that as
the sun was the great enlightener of the physical world,
so the serpent was the great enlightener of the
spiritual.

And why was that claimed? Well, wasn’t it the serpent
that gave mankind the “knowledge of good and evil”?

This, of course, referred back to Eve, the first woman,
who was told in her first encounter, in the satanic
séance, that if she turned her back on the Creator and
instead followed the fallen Lucifer, she would “become
enlightened to all the good things that God wants to
conceal” from her.

The introduction of the serpent into the Eastern
Mysteries as the great enlightener was no innocent
accident.

On the part of the ringleaders, this was nothing less
than a deliberate and daring perversion of a known
truth.

An ignorant move? Don’t kid yourself. It was well
planned, deliberate and controlled.

5. RAISE THE SERPENT TO TOP POSITION

Step five: And finally, this serpent-dragon, or Teitan
or Satan, became the supreme object of worship.

Hence the Titania, or rites of Teitan, eventually
occupied a prominent place in the Egyptian Mysteries
and also in those of Greece.

Honestly, lately, so many emails have come
in asking about these multiple messiah gods of Mexico,
Egypt, Greece, India and everywhere else, that I just
HAD TO pull together all the crucial data.

If I can get some people thinking, it will be worth it.

The questions are numerous:

* Were there at least 16 avatars/saviors/messiahs
before Jesus Christ – for example, Krishna, Mithra,
Osiris, Thoth, Prometheus, Buddha, Quetzalcoatl?
* Was Jesus just a fairy tale copied from pagan
“christs”?
* Why are the stories and teachings of Jesus Christ,
Krishna and Buddha so remarkably similar?
* Why do their mythologies have uncanny parallels –
for example, virgin birth, a December 25 birthday,
saviors of royal descent, a violent death, a
resurrection, ascensions, and so on?
* Is Christianity recycled paganism?
* Is the Bible so unreliable, you cannot trust what it
tells you?
* Has it been tampered with?
* Are churches covering up the truth?

I had better alert you now, that someone is playing us
for suckers. I think you and I deserve an explanation.

We shall also find ourselves confronting issues such as
these:

* Are there endless cycles of destruction and
reincarnation?
* Is Satan (Lucifer) the real god?
* Is 2012 the year of doom for this planet?

Here’s where to go for stickier questions and more
explosive information.

http://www.beforeus.com/stolen-id.php

Meanwhile, I wish you and yours a great week ahead.

Until next time,
Jonathan Gray

Posted on: 2009/8/23 11:53

Edited by arkman on 2009/8/23 12:11:26
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Re: Dokumentär: Global Warming, Emerging Science and Understanding
#89


Kom på vad jag hette tidigare i tråden, innan ryggradslös admin klåfingrade bort mitt konto: christoff... hehe...

Jag som en annan user som klåfingrig admin inte heller kunde låta bli att radera: Lunar, postade en del länkar angående växande glaciärer en bit ned i tråden:

http://vaken.se/modules/newbb/viewtop ... id=122386#forumpost122386

Posted on: 2009/8/22 10:22
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Re: Både vaken.se och Alex Jones kränger silvertabletter.
#90


Kanske någon form av franchising kan fungera...

Handelsresande med de senaste uppdateringarna på konspirationfronten - veckans top ten.... De kanske kan vara som pastorer, sprida missionen för den heretiska religionen.

Desperato, kan du lista upp några av de mest frapperande negativa åsikterna, gärna med din kommentar vid varje, så vi alla kan se hur din måttstock är kring negativt/positivt, tack.

Posted on: 2009/8/22 1:09
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Re: Jag lyssnar på....
#91


Vår nationalhymn... med svensk text...

Hela Avdelningen står upp, admins undantaget då de inte klarar det på grund av ryggradsbrist... hehe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oP2i5gXOFU&feature=related

Posted on: 2009/8/22 0:48
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Re: Till försvar för George Soros
#92


Han har rånat länder, kört Sverige i sank.

Hur kan han gå lös... jovisst ja...

Posted on: 2009/8/22 0:06
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Re: Dokumentär: Global Warming, Emerging Science and Understanding
#93


Apropå havsnivå som sjunker... eller havsnivån, som jag tog upp i tråden (undrar vad jag hade för usernamn där - komatisk admin tog bort mitt användarnamn) - såg ni detta på svt:s förstasida:

Maldiverna letar efter ett nytt land

Semesterparadiset Maldiverna kommer det närmaste seklet att försvinna helt under...

http://svt.se/2.22584/1.1655169/maldi ... letar_efter_ett_nytt_land

Jämför med vad tex Mörner säger:

Indian Ocean - sea levels falling

Maldives have fallen substantially – fallen! – in the last 30 years.
I find it curious that we haven't heard about this.


http://www.iceagenow.com/Indian_Ocean_sea_levels_are_falling.htm

Får svt verkligen hålla på som de gör?

Posted on: 2009/8/22 0:01
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Re: Vaken Shop?
#94


Quote:

MegaKungen skrev:
Hur vore det om Vaken skulle börja finansera sin verksamhet genom att printa ut t-skjortor? T-skjortor som t.ex "911 was an inside job", "global warming is a fraud", "resist the nwo", "live free or die" etc? Det Kostar väl ett par tusen spänn att kosta ordentligt tryckpress/printer för att göra bra skjortor och själva t-skjortorna kan man ju köpa för en 30-40kr och sälja skjortorna för kanske en 150kr? Det vore ju en bra vinst per t-skjorta...


Kanske lansera komaismen som franchise -så kan man bli handelsresande inom villfarelse, skrämsel och annat... så är en heretisk religion... ska dra in andras pengar.

Posted on: 2009/8/21 23:19
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Re: Himlafenomen
#95


Fang, du är inom new age och se upp för dåliga väsens inflytande, vänligt menat.

Kom att tänka på Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov... som jag postade om här:

http://vaken.se/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=109709

Posted on: 2009/8/21 18:47
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Re: Från DN: Flickor hamnar i puberteten allt tidigare
#96


Quote:

pingubenji skrev:
Ni behöver inte "ta något av vad [jag] skriver på allvar"
Jag vill inte ha någon som helst respekt av hatare och samhällssplittrare

"Vänligen: Hur mår du?"
Det ska jag berätta

Jag är lite upprörd att ingen trosuppfattning klarar av att vara ödmjuk mot alla andra människor, alla har en brist, alltid ska det vara "vi och dem" mentalitet, vi sitter ffs i samma båt (jorden), varför måste vi hugga på varandra hela tiden, varför måste vi förstöra och stjäla från varandra, varför kan vi inte låta människor vara som de vill när det inte påverkar oss?

varför vågar vi inte ens prata med varandra på bussen?

Jag mår illa av fördomar och andra nedvärderande tankar som sprids av andra människor, jag mår dåligt av att jag inte kan förstå varför ni gör detta, jag mår dåligt av andras hat, till och med när hatet riktas mot någon som är främling till mig

Jag vill bara att vi slutar upp med allt primitivt här på jorden och lever Tillsammans, vi behöver inte enas om saker och ting, men vi måste kunna leva sida vid sida utan att agera som idioter och kasta sten på varandra varje dag




I västvärlden stenas homosexuella inte längre till döds, så därför vågar de sig fram här

Homosexualitet finns bland alla djur, i högre frekvens än vad vi människor länge haft pga dödshot från, och utrensning utförd av, olika religioner


Det är snarare så att en stor grupp inte förföljs till döds längre, låt dem vara lite stolta, så som kvinnorna var när de fick börja rösta i vår låtsasdemokrati, låt dem få leva med samma rättigheter som du, låt dem fira deras rätt i samhället med några parader [du inte behöver besöka]

Vi människor måste sluta attackera det som vi är rädda för, vi måste börja kommunicera och lära oss att andra människor inte är exakt som vi

Just nu agerar vi som grottmänniskor, vi slår ihjäl främmande ting först och tar reda på om det utgjorde ett hot senare


Jag gillar inte när man pratar nedvärderande om andra grupper, det separerar bara människor/grupper från varandra och främjar sektbeteenden, desto mer splittrade vi blir desto mer våldsamma och hatiska radikalgrupper kan frodas lokalt [och organisera sig globalt med internets hjälp]


"...dolt hot mot folkhälsan, för inget folk lever vidare om homosexualitet blir norm. Detta är fakta..."

Åter igen, homosexualitet är inget "som sprider sig", "det är fakta"

Är det HIV du tänker på för folkhälsan eller? Då behöver du läsa på

Eller är du rädd att du/alla ska bli gay? Var lugn, du kommer dö långt innan detta skulle kunna ske, så du behöver inte bry dig

Varför skulle det vara så bra om människan överlevde i x antal fler år innan solen och solsystemet dör

Finns ingen mening i att bry sig om hur det blir sen om allt vi gör är gjort med god intention, upplev och njut av nuet, tillsammans med alla andra här på jorden, kom överens!

Nej, börja umgås med människor runtomkring dig och njut av livet, livet blir riktigt trist om du är rädd och hatisk hela tiden

Jag hoppas verkligen att de lyckas bättre i andra solsystem


Nu får du ge dig... du talar om fördomar, så ge ETT exempel på en sådan. Tidigare skrev du "fobi" - hur sjuttan tänker du?

Så finns det ingen homosexualitet hos djur, och om det skulle finnas, skulle du då vara den som ville nyttja det för en slags promotion av perversitet - det är det du gör.

Varför hatar du mänskligt liv, och projicerar över dina egna brister på andra? Andra som bara säger vad som är självklart.

Det finns inga som ÄR homosexuella. Vakna.

Du pratar så väääldigt pk - "vi måste sluta vara rädda för..." - det kunde vara Sahlin själv, eller pervorösten.

Att "...inte andra människor är exakt som vi..." - varför sätter du aldrig "människor" inom fnuttar?

Du bör ta ett stort steg in i ditt eget mäsnkliga tänk - det är långt från denna programmeringsström du skriver - det är inte du, för det är fel.

Perva är det yttersta sveket mot sig själv, och det som skapat en, gud, föräldrar, kosmos principer etc - så talar du om fördomar, fobi, vara rädda - denna tid är speciell och kort - det är nu värre än det varit tidigare i historien - förr gick grupper/kulturer under innan det gått så här långt.

Pervo har inget med mänskligt liv att göra, utan är beteenden- aliens och dåliga krafter ligger mycket bakom och utnyttjar fd människor.

Du har inte tänkt till eller grävt överhuvudtaget, utan bara ekoar ut vår tids lögnpropaganda och tänk.

Se du nu Lorax hur denna som många trådar vidgas - sluta prata om "trådens ämne" - det ena ger de andra som ger det tredje som... du borde veta det, och hur ett forum fungerar.

En gammal tråd:

http://vaken.se/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=15675

Det står i ett inlägg att det enda somär värt att läsaärNovax (jag) och bennyberas inlägg, så du vet...


det enda som är något att läsa är Novaks och Bennybears inlägg.

Posted on: 2009/8/21 18:09
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