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Re: Vad ska ni rösta på i EU-valet 25:e maj, dvs om ni ska rösta...
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Kommer inte att rösta, för anledningar som t.ex. att inte ingå kontraktet.
Men om jag skulle rösta på Svenskarnas Parti
Då de är de enda som har en retorisk verklighetsuppfattning som jag delar.
Sen är jag långt ifrån Nationcalsocialist eller etatist för den delen, men de talar ju verklighetens språk till skillnad från 7+SD

Posted on: 2014/5/17 19:19
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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Re: [infoga käck hälsning]!
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Hej Jocke, kul att du hittat hit!
Din hemsida är jättefin och informativ, tänker spara den under mina bokmärken och tipsa alla hälsointresserade jag känner om den!
Ha en skön höst!

Posted on: 2012/9/9 14:41
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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Re: The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)
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Postade faktiskt denna länk/vägg då jag såg likheter med detta forum, kanske någon internetspion som fått admin priv?

Annars kan jag bara säga att om de har/haft en operation mot vaken.se så har den lyckats

Ner med staten!

Militarismen är problemet!

sådär, nu vart vi relevanta igen :D

tebax till de amerikanska forumen! tjoho!

Posted on: 2012/8/14 1:11
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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Re: vart är alla vakna?
#4


Ja, jag tycker vaken.se har dött ned rätt mycket

För oss utan facebook är världen rätt stängd, på vaken manifestation fanns bara facebookgruppen som alternativ, vilket e lite trist, men varför ens befinna sig på en plats som facebook där 2/3 av alla konton är falska?

Ankdamm?

Jag är i alla fall vaken, men otroligt ensam...

Fetast vore ju att hitta någon att bolla möjliga verkligheter med utan att denna blev sur för man tycker på något sätt, haha... Q_Q

använder själv mest vaken som en plats där jag delar med mig av info jag kommit över samt för en plats att lagra den, kan inte minnas alla gånger jag ombetts om info, och skickat den frågande till vaken.se för att söka på mitt användarnamn.

Kan dock säga att jag saknar den gamla goa tiden, med lite dramatik, computerror, var är du din gamla fleshlightsäljare?

Hoppas på mer kärlek och debatt inom kort, puss!

Posted on: 2012/8/14 1:02
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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Re: The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)
#5


Kul sid-design som klipper de två sista symbolerna på varje rad...
Admins?

Posted on: 2012/8/13 22:18
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)
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Hej, hittade en länk till pastebin kallad:
The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.).
tänkte jag skulle klippa och klistra litet, texten är på engelska men inte så mycket av en vägg att jag behöver varna.
Texten ger vägledning hur internetforum kan kontrolleras och hur viktigt information shasas bort med hjälp av diverse tekniker, säkert ingeting nytt för en vindpinad internetkrigare men det kan nog gynna många!
Mycket nöje!

The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)

1. COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum
2. Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation
3. Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist
4. How to Spot a Spy (Cointelpro Agent)
5. Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression
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COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum..

There are several techniques for the control and manipulation of a internet forum no matter what, or who is on it. We will go over each technique and demonstrate that only a minimal number of operatives can be used to eventually and effectively gain a control of a 'uncontrolled forum.'

Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING'

If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.' In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.' The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.

Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'

A second highly effective technique (which you can see in operation all the time at www.abovetopsecret.com) is 'consensus cracking.' To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'

Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.

Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION'

Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.

Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING'

Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes - without the requirement to 'stage' a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to 'lead' the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you 'do not care what the authorities think!!' inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.

Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'

It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.

CONCLUSION

Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM. Once they are aware of these techniques the operation can completely fail, and the forum can become uncontrolled. At this point other avenues must be considered such as initiating a false legal precidence to simply have the forum shut down and taken offline. This is not desirable as it then leaves the enforcement agencies unable to track the percentage of those in the population who always resist attempts for control against them. Many other techniques can be utilized and developed by the individual and as you develop further techniques of infiltration and control it is imperative to share then with HQ.
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Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation

Note: The first rule and last five (or six, depending on situation) rules are generally not directly within the ability of the traditional disinfo artist to apply. These rules are generally used more directly by those at the leadership, key players, or planning level of the criminal conspiracy or conspiracy to cover up.

1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don't discuss it -- especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it's not reported, it didn't happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.

2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the 'How dare you!' gambit.

3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method which works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such 'arguable rumors'. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a 'wild rumor' from a 'bunch of kids on the Internet' which can have no basis in fact.

4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism, reasoning -- simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.

7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could be taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.

8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough 'jargon' and 'minutia' to illustrate you are 'one who knows', and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man -- usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with - a kind of investment for the future should the matter not be so easily contained.) Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually then be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues -- so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source.

11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the 'high road' and 'confess' with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made -- but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, 'just isn't so.' Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later, and even publicly 'call for an end to the nonsense' because you have already 'done the right thing.' Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for 'coming clean' and 'owning up' to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.

12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to lose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact.

14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10.

15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.

16. Vanish evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won't have to address the issue.

17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations -- as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.

21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other empowered investigative body. Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed and unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a favorable verdict is achieved, the matter can be considered officially closed. Usually, this technique is applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim.

22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.

23. Create bigger distractions. If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news stories (or treat them as such) to distract the multitudes.

24. Silence critics. If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be by their death, arrest and detention, blackmail or destruction of their character by release of blackmail information, or merely by destroying them financially, emotionally, or severely damaging their health.

25. Vanish. If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen.
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Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist

1) Avoidance. They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide constructive input, generally avoiding citation of references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about their presentation implies their authority and expert knowledge in the matter without any further justification for credibility.

2) Selectivity. They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either applying the hit-and-run approach against mere commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier attacks on key opponents who are known to directly address issues. Should a commentator become argumentative with any success, the focus will shift to include the commentator as well.

3) Coincidental. They tend to surface suddenly and somewhat coincidentally with a new controversial topic with no clear prior record of participation in general discussions in the particular public arena involved. They likewise tend to vanish once the topic is no longer of general concern. They were likely directed or elected to be there for a reason, and vanish with the reason.

4) Teamwork. They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute opponent presentation strength.

5) Anti-conspiratorial. They almost always have disdain for 'conspiracy theorists' and, usually, for those who in any way believe JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why, if they hold such disdain for conspiracy theorists, do they focus on defending a single topic discussed in a NG focusing on conspiracies? One might think they would either be trying to make fools of everyone on every topic, or simply ignore the group they hold in such disdain.Or, one might more rightly conclude they have an ulterior motive for their actions in going out of their way to focus as they do.

6) Artificial Emotions. An odd kind of 'artificial' emotionalism and an unusually thick skin -- an ability to persevere and persist even in the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance. This likely stems from intelligence community training that, no matter how condemning the evidence, deny everything, and never become emotionally involved or reactive. The net result for a disinfo artist is that emotions can seem artificial.

Most people, if responding in anger, for instance, will express their animosity throughout their rebuttal. But disinfo types usually have trouble maintaining the 'image' and are hot and cold with respect to pretended emotions and their usually more calm or unemotional communications style. It's just a job, and they often seem unable to 'act their role in character' as well in a communications medium as they might be able in a real face-to-face conversation/confrontation. You might have outright rage and indignation one moment, ho-hum the next, and more anger later -- an emotional yo-yo.

With respect to being thick-skinned, no amount of criticism will deter them from doing their job, and they will generally continue their old disinfo patterns without any adjustments to criticisms of how obvious it is that they play that game -- where a more rational individual who truly cares what others think might seek to improve their communications style, substance, and so forth, or simply give up.

7) Inconsistent. There is also a tendency to make mistakes which betray their true self/motives. This may stem from not really knowing their topic, or it may be somewhat 'freudian', so to speak, in that perhaps they really root for the side of truth deep within.

I have noted that often, they will simply cite contradictory information which neutralizes itself and the author. For instance, one such player claimed to be a Navy pilot, but blamed his poor communicating skills (spelling, grammar, incoherent style) on having only a grade-school education. I'm not aware of too many Navy pilots who don't have a college degree. Another claimed no knowledge of a particular topic/situation but later claimed first-hand knowledge of it.

8) Time Constant. Recently discovered, with respect to News Groups, is the response time factor. There are three ways this can be seen to work, especially when the government or other empowered player is involved in a cover up operation:

a) ANY NG posting by a targeted proponent for truth can result in an IMMEDIATE response. The government and other empowered players can afford to pay people to sit there and watch for an opportunity to do some damage. SINCE DISINFO IN A NG ONLY WORKS IF THE READER SEES IT - FAST RESPONSE IS CALLED FOR, or the visitor may be swayed towards truth.

b) When dealing in more direct ways with a disinformationalist, such as email, DELAY IS CALLED FOR - there will usually be a minimum of a 48-72 hour delay. This allows a sit-down team discussion on response strategy for best effect, and even enough time to 'get permission' or instruction from a formal chain of command.

c) In the NG example 1) above, it will often ALSO be seen that bigger guns are drawn and fired after the same 48-72 hours delay - the team approach in play. This is especially true when the targeted truth seeker or their comments are considered more important with respect to potential to reveal truth. Thus, a serious truth sayer will be attacked twice for the same sin.

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How to Spot a Spy (Cointelpro Agent)

One way to neutralize a potential activist is to get them to be in a group that does all the wrong things. Why?

1) The message doesn't get out.
2) A lot of time is wasted
3) The activist is frustrated and discouraged
4) Nothing good is accomplished.

FBI and Police Informers and Infiltrators will infest any group and they have phoney activist organizations established.

Their purpose is to prevent any real movement for justice or eco-peace from developing in this country.

Agents come in small, medium or large. They can be of any ethnic background. They can be male or female.

The actual size of the group or movement being infiltrated is irrelevant. It is the potential the movement has for becoming large which brings on the spies and saboteurs.

This booklet lists tactics agents use to slow things down, foul things up, destroy the movement and keep tabs on activists.

It is the agent's job to keep the activist from quitting such a group, thus keeping him/her under control.

In some situations, to get control, the agent will tell the activist:

"You're dividing the movement."

[Here, I have added the psychological reasons as to WHY this maneuver works to control people]

This invites guilty feelings. Many people can be controlled by guilt. The agents begin relationships with activists behind a well-developed mask of "dedication to the cause." Because of their often declared dedication, (and actions designed to prove this), when they criticize the activist, he or she - being truly dedicated to the movement - becomes convinced that somehow, any issues are THEIR fault. This is because a truly dedicated person tends to believe that everyone has a conscience and that nobody would dissimulate and lie like that "on purpose." It's amazing how far agents can go in manipulating an activist because the activist will constantly make excuses for the agent who regularly declares their dedication to the cause. Even if they do, occasionally, suspect the agent, they will pull the wool over their own eyes by rationalizing: "they did that unconsciously... they didn't really mean it... I can help them by being forgiving and accepting " and so on and so forth.

The agent will tell the activist:

"You're a leader!"

This is designed to enhance the activist's self-esteem. His or her narcissistic admiration of his/her own activist/altruistic intentions increase as he or she identifies with and consciously admires the altruistic declarations of the agent which are deliberately set up to mirror those of the activist.

This is "malignant pseudoidentification." It is the process by which the agent consciously imitates or simulates a certain behavior to foster the activist's identification with him/her, thus increasing the activist's vulnerability to exploitation. The agent will simulate the more subtle self-concepts of the activist.

Activists and those who have altruistic self-concepts are most vulnerable to malignant pseudoidentification especially during work with the agent when the interaction includes matter relating to their competency, autonomy, or knowledge.

The goal of the agent is to increase the activist's general empathy for the agent through pseudo-identification with the activist's self-concepts.

The most common example of this is the agent who will compliment the activist for his competency or knowledge or value to the movement. On a more subtle level, the agent will simulate affects and mannerisms of the activist which promotes identification via mirroring and feelings of "twinship". It is not unheard of for activists, enamored by the perceived helpfulness and competence of a good agent, to find themselves considering ethical violations and perhaps, even illegal behavior, in the service of their agent/handler.

The activist's "felt quality of perfection" [self-concept] is enhanced, and a strong empathic bond is developed with the agent through his/her imitation and simulation of the victim's own narcissistic investments. [self-concepts] That is, if the activist knows, deep inside, their own dedication to the cause, they will project that onto the agent who is "mirroring" them.

The activist will be deluded into thinking that the agent shares this feeling of identification and bonding. In an activist/social movement setting, the adversarial roles that activists naturally play vis a vis the establishment/government, fosters ongoing processes of intrapsychic splitting so that "twinship alliances" between activist and agent may render whole sectors or reality testing unavailable to the activist. They literally "lose touch with reality."

Activists who deny their own narcissistic investments [do not have a good idea of their own self-concepts and that they ARE concepts] and consciously perceive themselves (accurately, as it were) to be "helpers" endowed with a special amount of altruism are exceedingly vulnerable to the affective (emotional) simulation of the accomplished agent.

Empathy is fostered in the activist through the expression of quite visible affects. The presentation of tearfulness, sadness, longing, fear, remorse, and guilt, may induce in the helper-oriented activist a strong sense of compassion, while unconsciously enhancing the activist's narcissistic investment in self as the embodiment of goodness.

The agent's expresssion of such simulated affects may be quite compelling to the observer and difficult to distinguish from deep emotion.

It can usually be identified by two events, however:

First, the activist who has analyzed his/her own narcissistic roots and is aware of his/her own potential for being "emotionally hooked," will be able to remain cool and unaffected by such emotional outpourings by the agent.

As a result of this unaffected, cool, attitude, the Second event will occur: The agent will recompensate much too quickly following such an affective expression leaving the activist with the impression that "the play has ended, the curtain has fallen," and the imposture, for the moment, has finished. The agent will then move quickly to another activist/victim.

The fact is, the movement doesn't need leaders, it needs MOVERS. "Follow the leader" is a waste of time.

A good agent will want to meet as often as possible. He or she will talk a lot and say little. One can expect an onslaught of long, unresolved discussions.

Some agents take on a pushy, arrogant, or defensive manner:

1) To disrupt the agenda
2) To side-track the discussion
3) To interrupt repeatedly
4) To feign ignorance
5) To make an unfounded accusation against a person.

Calling someone a racist, for example. This tactic is used to discredit a person in the eyes of all other group members.

Saboteurs

Some saboteurs pretend to be activists. She or he will ....

1) Write encyclopedic flyers (in the present day, websites)
2) Print flyers in English only.
3) Have demonstrations in places where no one cares.
4) Solicit funding from rich people instead of grass roots support
5) Display banners with too many words that are confusing.
6) Confuse issues.
7) Make the wrong demands.
Cool Compromise the goal.
9) Have endless discussions that waste everyone's time. The agent may accompany the endless discussions with drinking, pot smoking or other amusement to slow down the activist's work.

Provocateurs

1) Want to establish "leaders" to set them up for a fall in order to stop the movement.
2) Suggest doing foolish, illegal things to get the activists in trouble.
3) Encourage militancy.
4) Want to taunt the authorities.
5) Attempt to make the activist compromise their values.
6) Attempt to instigate violence. Activisim ought to always be non-violent.
7) Attempt to provoke revolt among people who are ill-prepared to deal with the reaction of the authorities to such violence.

Informants

1) Want everyone to sign up and sing in and sign everything.
2) Ask a lot of questions (gathering data).
3) Want to know what events the activist is planning to attend.
4) Attempt to make the activist defend him or herself to identify his or her beliefs, goals, and level of committment.

Recruiting

Legitimate activists do not subject people to hours of persuasive dialog. Their actions, beliefs, and goals speak for themselves.

Groups that DO recruit are missionaries, military, and fake political parties or movements set up by agents.

Surveillance

ALWAYS assume that you are under surveillance.

At this point, if you are NOT under surveillance, you are not a very good activist!

Scare Tactics

They use them.

Such tactics include slander, defamation, threats, getting close to disaffected or minimally committed fellow activists to persuade them (via psychological tactics described above) to turn against the movement and give false testimony against their former compatriots. They will plant illegal substances on the activist and set up an arrest; they will plant false information and set up "exposure," they will send incriminating letters [emails] in the name of the activist; and more; they will do whatever society will allow.

This booklet in no way covers all the ways agents use to sabotage the lives of sincere an dedicated activists.

If an agent is "exposed," he or she will be transferred or replaced.

COINTELPRO is still in operation today under a different code name. It is no longer placed on paper where it can be discovered through the freedom of information act.

The FBI counterintelligence program's stated purpose: To expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, and otherwise neutralize individuals who the FBI categorize as opposed to the National Interests. "National Security" means the FBI's security from the people ever finding out the vicious things it does in violation of people's civil liberties.

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Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Strong, credible allegations of high-level criminal activity can bring down a government. When the government lacks an effective, fact-based defense, other techniques must be employed. The success of these techniques depends heavily upon a cooperative, compliant press and a mere token opposition party.

1. Dummy up. If it's not reported, if it's not news, it didn't happen.

2. Wax indignant. This is also known as the "How dare you?" gambit.

3. Characterize the charges as "rumors" or, better yet, "wild rumors." If, in spite of the news blackout, the public is still able to learn about the suspicious facts, it can only be through "rumors." (If they tend to believe the "rumors" it must be because they are simply "paranoid" or "hysterical.")

4. Knock down straw men. Deal only with the weakest aspects of the weakest charges. Even better, create your own straw men. Make up wild rumors (or plant false stories) and give them lead play when you appear to debunk all the charges, real and fanciful alike.

5. Call the skeptics names like "conspiracy theorist," "nutcase," "ranter," "kook," "crackpot," and, of course, "rumor monger." Be sure, too, to use heavily loaded verbs and adjectives when characterizing their charges and defending the "more reasonable" government and its defenders. You must then carefully avoid fair and open debate with any of the people you have thus maligned. For insurance, set up your own "skeptics" to shoot down.

6. Impugn motives. Attempt to marginalize the critics by suggesting strongly that they are not really interested in the truth but are simply pursuing a partisan political agenda or are out to make money (compared to over-compensated adherents to the government line who, presumably, are not).

7. Invoke authority. Here the controlled press and the sham opposition can be very useful.

8. Dismiss the charges as "old news."

9. Come half-clean. This is also known as "confession and avoidance" or "taking the limited hangout route." This way, you create the impression of candor and honesty while you admit only to relatively harmless, less-than-criminal "mistakes." This stratagem often requires the embrace of a fall-back position quite different from the one originally taken. With effective damage control, the fall-back position need only be peddled by stooge skeptics to carefully limited markets.

10. Characterize the crimes as impossibly complex and the truth as ultimately unknowable.

11. Reason backward, using the deductive method with a vengeance. With thoroughly rigorous deduction, troublesome evidence is irrelevant. E.g. We have a completely free press. If evidence exists that the Vince Foster "suicide" note was forged, they would have reported it. They haven't reported it so there is no such evidence. Another variation on this theme involves the likelihood of a conspiracy leaker and a press who would report the leak.

12. Require the skeptics to solve the crime completely. E.g. If Foster was murdered, who did it and why?

13. Change the subject. This technique includes creating and/or publicizing distractions.

14. Lightly report incriminating facts, and then make nothing of them. This is sometimes referred to as "bump and run" reporting.

15. Baldly and brazenly lie. A favorite way of doing this is to attribute the "facts" furnished the public to a plausible-sounding, but anonymous, source.

16. Expanding further on numbers 4 and 5, have your own stooges "expose" scandals and champion popular causes. Their job is to pre-empt real opponents and to play 99-yard football. A variation is to pay rich people for the job who will pretend to spend their own money.

17. Flood the Internet with agents. This is the answer to the question, "What could possibly motivate a person to spend hour upon hour on Internet news groups defending the government and/or the press and harassing genuine critics?" Don t the authorities have defenders enough in all the newspapers, magazines, radio, and television? One would think refusing to print critical letters and screening out serious callers or dumping them from radio talk shows would be control enough, but, obviously, it is not.

Här är länken till pastebin!
http://pastebin.com/irj4Fyd5

kärlek och frid ;3

P.S. Oj vilken vägg, happas ni har karbinhakarna redo

Posted on: 2012/8/13 22:10
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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Re: Jesuiterna?
#7


Kan tipsa om väggtexten i starten av denna tråd-
http://vaken.se/modules/newbb/viewtop ... id=158037#forumpost158037

som jag smärtsamt överförde från Nordisk Familjebok á la 1920-nåntings upplaga.

Fann informationen givande när den uppenbarades för mig.

Kan dessutom tipsa om äldre upplagor av lexikon då dessa tenderar att ha en mer moralisk syn på "sanningen".

Ser Jesuiterna som grunden för dagens informationskontrollerande institutioner, de följer en noga uträknad strategi som används i alla aspekter i samhället.

Mördare och propagandister, och som alltid, några lurade, väna själar som inget ont anar.

Posted on: 2012/7/27 2:28
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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Re: Max Igans nya film - Trance-Formation
#8


Grymt Avatar!
Stort tack, många kramar och masssor av kärlek!
frid!

Posted on: 2012/4/23 1:56
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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Re: World Trade Center Collapse - the feasibility of nuclear demolition on 9/11
#9


Smactane... Do your homework...

http://www.smac.fr/smacsonic.html

SMACSONIC® is a skin damping range developed to reduce vibrations and induced noise created by a structure.
This solution, very effective, light and compact, is easily applicable on structures such as:

airplanes
helicopters
vehicles
electronics containers
revolving machines
trains
skis
etc.(Hissar)

Jag vet inte, det är den förklaringen jag hållit högst de senaste tre åren.

Duger också som förklaring till Den där Air France som förångades över atlanten för något år sedan...

Eller så var det ännu en attack-echelon som misslyckades, vem vet, scalar weapons eller nukes?

Eftersom Smactane teorin funnits ute bland de mer grävande utredararna i snart 3 år utan att ha plockats upp av mainstream konspirationsligan, är den fortfarande nummer ett. För mig.
gooo juuu!/120Cl<37134N4N4

Posted on: 2011/12/20 19:44
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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Re: Dr Judy Wood - anomalies of 9-11 - in the UK ORKANEN 11-sept-2001!
#10


Lyssnade mycket och läste Judy denna tid 2009, tog upp hennes info under liveradiochatt (www.themicroeffect.com) under radioprogrammet Rumor mill news, som i mina ögon är det mest "spot on" community't när det kommer till 9 1 1 eller andra försäkringsbedrägerier/blankningsattentat (www.abeldanger.net).
Där sades det att Dr Judy Wood var dissinfo och att hennes teorier baserades på existerande tekniker men att de ditplanteras för att ta bort uppmärksamheten från faktumet att alla hisschakten i tornen var klädda med materialet Smacktane( http://www.smac.fr/smacsonic.html ) som verkar ljuddämpande men också dubblar som raketbränsle med thermate effekt(två skivor aluminium med en polymer emellan.

Då dessa gubbar/tanter(abeldanger) brukar vara bra och att de gav mig en förklaring, gav jag deras diss viss validering.
Men Judy ger en total förklaring, så varför inte, men de väderkartor som visar stillastående stormar, står under förfogande av BBC world service, och kan programmeras hur som helst, som med orkanen Katharina...
Men hon framstår som vettig och äkta iaf!
Love/Rocketbanana

Posted on: 2011/12/20 18:06
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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Re: USA Homeland Security på väg att starta upp FEMA Camps
#11


[img width=300]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQeYlxXUQum4ahekZbgK3QjrZjgvRabo1gWxOV9m6POZ1EjpceD[/img]

Posted on: 2011/12/20 17:51
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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Re: Political Ponerology (2007 Edition)
#12


Bok skriven av Den polske författaren Andrew M. Lobaczewski.
Handlar i breda drag om psykopaternas roll i vårt samhälle/ vår civilisation och hur deras skadeverkan når långt mycket längre än vad gemene man/kvinna(check me out, PK!)vågar ana.

Cointelpro var ju någon slags FBI-kampanj startad av vad han nu hette, Hoover? protocals? Protocols of the learned elders of zion? Nej, helt annat.
Tar du mig för en nybörjare?

Riktigt bra läsning för den som vågar tänka mer än bara possitiva tankar och lärt sig att ondska faktiskt existerar.

Se nedan för ytterligare info

Andrew M. Lobaczewski was born in 1921 and grew up on a rural estate in the beautiful pied mountain vicinity of Poland. Under the Nazi occupation he worked on the farm, was an apiarist, and then a soldier of the Home Army, an underground Polish resistance organization. After the Soviet invasion of Poland, the family estate was confiscated and the owners driven out from their old house.


Working hard for living, he studied psychology at Yagiello-nian University in Cracow. The conditions under “Communist” rule turned his attention to the matters of psychopathology, especially to the role of psychopathic persons in such a governmental system. He was not the first such researcher who followed a similar path.



The work was begun by a secret understanding of scientists of the older generation, which was destroyed shortly after by the Red security authorities. Lobaczewski then later became the one who succeeded in accomplishing the work and putting it down on paper.


Working in a mental hospital, than a general hospital, and in open mental health service, the author improved his skills in clinical diagnosis and psychotherapy. Finally, when suspected by the political authorities of knowing too much in the matter of the pathological nature of the system, he was forced to emigrate in 1977. In the USA he became engulfed by the activity of the long paws of the Red diversion. Instead of his very hard times, the work presented now was written in New York in 1984. All attempts to publish this book at this time failed.


With broken health, he returned in 1990 to Poland and went under the care of doctors, his old friends. His condition improved gradually, and he became able to work and to publish another of his works in matters of psychotherapy and socio-psychology. He is still living in his homeland.

Posted on: 2011/12/20 16:55
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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Political Ponerology (2007 Edition)
#13


Hej svejs i juletider, tänkte tipsa om lite literatur!
Har hört talas om den bok från alla möjliga håll, hittade en torrent för den så jag tänkte dela!

-The first manuscript of this book went into the fire five minutes before the arrival of the secret police in Communist Poland. The second copy, reassembled painfully by scientists working under impossible conditions of repression, was sent via a courier to the Vatican. Its receipt was never acknowledged, no word was ever heard from the courier - the manuscript and all the valuable data was lost. The third copy was produced after one of the scientists working on the project escaped to America in the 1980s. Zbigniew Brzezinski suppressed it.
Political Ponerology was forged in the crucible of the very subject it studies. Scientists living under an oppressive regime decide to study it clinically, to study the founders and supporters of an evil regime to determine what common factor is at play in the rise and propagation of man's inhumanity to man.
Shocking in its clinically spare descriptions of the true nature of evil, poignant in the more literary passages where the author reveals the suffering experienced by the researchers who were contaminated or destroyed by the disease they were studying, this is a book that should be required reading by every citizen of every country that claims a moral or humanistic foundation. For it is a certainty that morality and humanism cannot long withstand the predations of Evil. Knowledge of its nature, how it creates its networks and spreads, how insidious is its guileful approach, is the only antidote.-

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6869098/Political_Ponerology__BBS_

Ha en skön jul!

Posted on: 2011/12/20 15:52
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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Alien Interview
#14


Alien Interview - Personal Notes and Interview Transcriptions Provided by Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vid ... erview/alieninterview.htm

Mötte upp några vänliga och vältaliga själar på Malmöfestivalen den 21/8

Nämnde denna intervjuvserien men kunde inte komma ihåg adressen.

Postar den nu.

Detta är de personliga anteckningarna från en sjuksköterska som kom i kontakt med en utomjordning 1947.

"Hoax" eller "truth"? I allafall välskriven och trevlig mythos med starka kopplingar till logos.

Fortsatt glad sommar/Rocketbanan/Johan

Till grabbarna på torget, hoppas vi möts igen snart (ô

Posted on: 2011/8/27 11:00
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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The Occult Technology of Power - en rational
#15


För den som orkar
Hittad här: http://abeldanger.blogspot.com/

Occult Knowledge: Key To Power - John Maynard Kaynes (Keynesian Economics) - Obama Administration Are Keynesians - Matrix 5 Cutouts Hide The Occult
"By a continuous process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. By this method, they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some....The process engages all of the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner that not one man in a million can diagnose." - John Maynard Keynes Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920

The Occult Technology of Power

"The most secret knowledge, a science which out dates history, is the science of control over people, governments and civilizations. The foundation of this ultimate discipline is the control of wealth. Through the control of wealth comes the control of public information and the necessities of life. Through the control of news media comes thought control. Through the control of basic necessities comes direct physical control of people." --Anonymous Transcriber

My Son,

In this thin volume you will find the transcripts of your initiation into the secrets of my empire. Read them again, not for the arcane knowledge which is now second nature to you, but in order to re-experience the shock and awe you felt twenty years ago when at age thirty, the fabulous scope of my power was revealed to you by my trusted, and now, mostly departed advisors. Remember the surprise to the point of disbelief, with which you beheld the invisibly delicate, but invincible chains of deceit, confusion, and coercion with which we finance capitalists enslave this chaotic world, Remember the feats of will and strategy that have been required to retain our position.

Then, inspect your retinue carefully. Your heir must be equal to and eager for the task, much as you were. Choose him carefully. As I lie here waiting for the end, I can afford to relish the thought of our empire lasting forever as I never dared while in charge. Rational power calculations, so easily disrupted by the thrills of power, are now entirely in your hands.

INTRODUCTION TO YOUR INITIATION

My son, the time has arrived to make formal what you have confidently awaited for some years. Of all your brothers, sisters, and cousins, as well as the offspring of my close allies, I have chosen you to be heir to my empire. All the trust funds, foundations, and accounts through which my empire is controlled shall pass into your hands upon my retirement. All my alliances, understandings, and enmities with my handful of peers around the globe shall gradually become yours. Over the next twenty years we shall collaborate closer and closer, you and I, until, we finally act as one.

For ten years you have toured my empire in a succession of managerial assignments and are now familiar with the outward operations of my crucial banking, foundation, governmental, and think-tank organizations. Until now, my advisors and I have deflected your questions as to how and if my diverse operations and holdings, which seem autonomous and even contradictory, are integrated into an organic whole to serve the dynasty's interests. The fact that you asked these questions, rejecting my carefully nurtured public image as an idle, coupon-clipping philanthropist, was a major factor in the high esteem in which I hold you. Most of your competitors found puppet leadership in any one of my organizations so awesome and gratifying that they immediately eliminated themselves from the contest for the top position which you have won. Such men of limited vision are necessary for my success. They bend unconsciously to the subtle pressures to which I expose them. They can be led in any direction I choose by simpleminded rationalizations aimed at their vanity without being privy to my motives which would be short-lived secrets in their undisciplined and envious minds.

Most important in your selection as my successor, however, was your psychological nature which has been faithfully reported to me over the years by my associates many of whom have advanced psychological training. A man in my position must have total mastery over his emotions. All actions affecting the power of the dynasty must be taken on the basis of coldly reasoned power calculations if the dynasty is to survive and prosper at the expense of its subjects and rivals. All power is impossible to those whose pursuit is ruled by sentimentality, love, envy, power-lust, revenge, prejudice, hatred, justice, alcohol, drugs, or sexual desire.

Sustained power is impossible to those who repress all their irrational longings into their subconscious only to have them return in compulsive, out-of-control behavior that inevitably leads to their ruin. Although often clothed in the rationalizations of power calculation, compulsive behavior is, at root, the emotionalism of a frightened child, desperately projecting his inner agony into a reality he is afraid to understand, much less master. Although you now must begin to pursue it consciously, you have already displayed the alienation from your emotional nature that is so essential to achieving real worldly power.

You must recognize your emotional nature as a primitive survival mechanism that was appropriate for the jungle and perhaps useful to common men, but useless for the tasks that confront us finance capitalists. Attachment to what you do, just because you do it, is the primary psychological characteristic of ordinary mortals. Such cognitive dissonance spells disaster for us. Our emotional mechanism makes our lives worth living, but is no guide to the occult arts of intrigue.

So, continue to gratify your senses and emotions fully at your leisure. As long as the empire prospers you will have the resources to indulge in systematic gratification which will leave your irrational urges sated and, therefore powerless. You will never be in the unenviable position of the middle class strivers who must, from lack of resources, repress their emotional natures if they are to attain any power whatever during their lives. Typically, they end up taking their pleasure from the victories and cruelties of their struggle. Thus, their end ceases to be power and they eventually defeat themselves with reckless behavior in pursuit of dominant thrills.

I have brought you into seclusion with my most trusted advisors in order to inaugurate a new phase of your instruction. Your formal training in the "official" political-economic world is now complete. This weekend will mark the beginning of your training in the occult technology of power that lurks behind outer appearances. As your tutors will explain, "occult" or secret knowledge is the basis of all power in human society, so I use the word "occult" advisedly, in its pristine usage. As I am sure you are aware by now, productivity in itself does not secure power and therefore does not secure the gratifications of life. After all, slaves can be productive.

None of my organizations in which you served so well are concerned with advancing the techniques of satisfying human needs and desires. Rather, all are dedicated to the surreptitious centralization of productive, but especially coercive, efforts in my hands or in creating the intellectual climate in which such veiled control would be tolerated in the future. I destroy or paralyze productive efforts that cannot be ensnared in my web.

After a break Professor A. will take the floor in order to put finance capitalism into full biological perspective. His short talk will be followed by similar abbreviated summaries by his six associates, all of whom you know well. The rest of the weekend will be devoted to forthright fielding of your questions.

PROFESSOR A. ON THE ROLE OF FRAUD IN NATURE

Organisms typically base their success primarily on deception and rely on actual force or mutually advantageous trade (symbiosis) as little as possible. This should be nearly self-evident, but is generally overlooked due to the moral codes we elitists foist on our subjects.

Let me give a few examples in case the moral culture has to some extent impaired your powers of objective observation. Camouflage is universal among predators and victims alike. Blossoms imitate fragrances and colors which are sexually attractive to certain insects in order to effect pollination. Dogs bark ferociously and feign attack on enemies of whom they are, in fact, terrified. The Venus Fly Trap plant lures flies to their deaths. Men proclaim their altruism to others and even themselves while they selfishly scramble for personal advantage.

If you doubt that fraud is normal in nature you should read Section 3 of Chapter 1 of Robert Ardrey's "The Social Contract" for a wealth of fascinating examples. (Of course Ardrey fails to grasp the full application to contemporary human society of his brilliant insights into man's animal nature.)

Human mental prowess and communicative powers have merely provided superb elaboration on nature's old theme of fraud, and added its own distinctive feature: self-delusion. Primitive animal hierarchies are based on bluff and bluster, and each member is well aware of and accepts, at least temporarily, its position in the hierarchy. The same wild enthusiasm and fascination for dominance and submission rages in human hearts. However, fraud is taken one step further. Not only is fraudulent bluff and bluster used to achieve dominance but fraudulent altruism and collective institutions are used to conceal dominance once achieved.

Human hierarchies, in contrast to the animal variety, are best sustained when the members are deluded regarding the oppressive nature, or better, even the very existence of the hierarchy! Visible rulers are highly vulnerable. Thus we see visible rulers claiming to be representatives of God, the common good, the material forces of history, the general will (either through vote or intuition), tradition, or other intellectual "spooks" that serve to lessen the envy of the ruled for the rulers. Encouraging such self-delusions among the masses of the ruled is universal for visible governments. However, such spooks are little protection for the leaders of such systems against their sophisticated elite rivals and no protection against men like your father.

The Roman Empire was unquestioned by the mass of its subjects for centuries, but the Emperors lived in constant fear of coup and assassination. By embracing deception wholeheartedly at every level, finance capitalism, or rule through money, has fashioned the ultimate system yet devised for the secure exercise of power. Men like your father, the hidden masters of finance capitalism, govern those who govern, produce, and think through invisible financial tentacles, the operations of which will be elucidated later by my colleagues. Dominance in all aspects of society is surreptitiously accomplished while the great majority of the ruled, and even most of the visible leaders, believe themselves to be fairly autonomous, if harried, members of a pluralistic society.

Nearly everyone believes major decisions to be the vector sum of autonomous pressures exerted by business, labor, government, consumers, social classes, and other special interests. In fact, the vectors of societal power are carefully balanced by us so that any net movement is in a direction chosen by us. The only fly in the ointment is the occasional, but extremely messy, interferences by competing financial dynasties. This disconcerting problem will not be a major topic for this weekend.

I now yield to Professor Q. who will elucidate the central secrets of your father's immense money power.

PROFESSOR Q. ON OCCULT KNOWLEDGE AS THE KEY TO POWER

Throughout history, secure ruling elites arise through secret, or occult, knowledge which they carefully guard and withhold from outsiders. The power of such elites or cults diminishes as their occult knowledge is transformed into "scientific" knowledge and vanishes as soon as it becomes "common sense." Before analyzing the secrets of the finance capitalist money cult, let us glance for historical perspective at occult astronomy, the oldest source of stable rule known to man of which astrology is but the pathetic remnant.

As soon as men abandoned the life of wandering, tribal hunters to till the soil they needed to predict the seasons. Such knowledge was required in order to know when to plant, when to expect floods in fertile valleys, when to expect rainy seasons, and so on. Months of backbreaking work were wasted by the unavailability of the calendar, a convenience we take for granted. The men who first studied and grasped the regularities of sun, moon, and stars that presage the seasons had a valuable commodity to sell and they milked it to the fullest at the expense of their credulous fellowmen.

The occult priesthood of early astronomers and mathematicians such as the designers of Stonehenge, convinced their subjects that they alone had contact with the gods, and thus, they alone could assure the return of planting seasons and weather favorable to bountiful harvests. The staging (predicting) of solar and lunar eclipses was particularly effective in awing the community. The general success resulting from following the priesthood's tilling, planting, nurturing, and harvesting time tables insured the priesthood's power.

Today's Christmas-holiday season continues the tradition set by ancient priesthood, who conducted rituals on the winter solstice to reverse the retreat of the sun from the sky. Their invariable success was followed by wild celebrations. Popular knowledge of seasonal regularities was discouraged by every manner of mysticism and outlandish ritual imaginable. Failures in prediction were blamed on sins of the peoples and used to justify intensified oppression. For centuries, people who had literally no idea of the number of days between seasons and couldn't count anyway cheerfully gave up a portion of their harvests, as well as their most beautiful daughters, to their "faithful servants" in the priesthood. The power of our finance capitalist money cult rests on a similar secret knowledge, primarily in the field of economics.

Our power is weakened by real advances in economic science. (Fortunately, the public at large and most revolutionaries remain totally ignorant of economics.) However, we established money lords have been able to prolong and even reverse our decline by systematically corrupting economic science with fallacious and spurious doctrines. Through our power in the universities, publishing, and mass media we have been able to reward the sincere, professorial cranks whose spurious doctrines happen to rationalize in terms of "common good" the government supported institutions, laws, and economic measures upon which our money powers depend.

John Maynard Keynes

John Maynard Keynes, 1st Baron Keynes CB FBA; (5 June 1883 – 21 April 1946), was a British economist whose ideas have profoundly affected the theory and practice of modern macroeconomics, as well as the economic policies of governments. He greatly refined earlier work on the causes of business cycles, and advocated the use of fiscal and monetary measures to mitigate the adverse effects of economic recessions and depressions. His ideas are the basis for the school of thought known as Keynesian economics, as well as its various offshoots.

Keynesianism is the highest form of phony economics yet developed to our benefit. The highly centralized, mixed economy resulting from the policies advocated by Lord Keynes for promoting "prosperity" has all the characteristics required to make our rule invulnerable to our twin nemeses: real private competition in the economic arena and real democratic process in the political arena. Laissez faire or free-market, classical economics was our original attempt to corrupt economic science. Its beautiful internal consistency blinded economists for many years to the fact that it had virtually nothing to do with current reality.

However, we are so powerful today that it is no longer possible to conceal our imposing institutions with the appearances of free competition. Keynesianism rationalizes this omnipotent state which we require, while retaining the privileges of private property on which our power ultimately rests. Although the interim reforms advocated by Marx in his Communist Manifesto such as central banking, income tax, and other centralizing measures can be corrupted to coincide exactly with our requirements, we no longer allow Marxist movements major power in developed countries. Our coercive institutions are already in place. Any real steps toward communism would mean our downfall. Of course, phony Marxism is an excellent ideological veil in which to cloak our puppet dictators in underdeveloped areas.

Secondarily, the power of the lords of money rests on an occult knowledge in the area of politics and history. We have quite successfully corrupted these sciences. Although many people are familiar with our secrets through such books as "1984" by the disillusioned George Orwell, few take them seriously and usually dismiss such ideas as paranoia. Since real politics is motivated by individual self-interest, history is viewed most accurately as a struggle for power and wealth.

We do our best to obscure this self-evident truth by popularizing the theory that history is made by the impersonal struggles between ideas, political systems, ideologies, races, and classes. Through systematic infiltration of all major intellectual, political, and ideological organizations, using the lure of financial support and instant publicity, we have been able to set the limits of public debate within the ideological requirements of our money power. The so-called 'left-right political spectrum' is our creation. In fact, it accurately reflects our careful, artificial polarization of the population on phony issues that prevents the issue of our power from arising in their minds. The Left supports civil liberties and opposes economic or entrepreneurial liberty. The Right supports economic liberty and opposes civil liberty. Of course, neither can exist fully (which is our goal) without the other. We control the Right-Left conflict such that both forms of liberty are suppressed to the degree we require.

Our own liberty rests not on legal or moral "rights," but on our control of the government bureaucracy and courts which apply the complex, subjective regulations we dupe the public into supporting for our benefit. Innumerable meaningless conflicts to divert the attention of the public from our operations find fertile ground in the bitter hatreds of the Right-Left imbroglio. Right and Left are irreconcilable on racial policy, treatment of criminals, law enforcement, pornography, foreign policy, women's liberation, and censorship to name just a few issues. Although censorship in the name of "fairness" has been useful in broadcasting and may yet be required in journalism, we generally do not take sides in these issues. Instead we attempt to prolong the conflicts by supporting both sides as required. War, of course, is the ultimate diversionary conflict and the health of our crisis behind which we consolidate our power. Since nuclear war presents dangers even to us, more and more we have resorted to economic crisis, energy shortages, ecological hysteria, [global warming; carbon emissions] and managed political drama to fill the gap.

Meaningless, brush fire wars, though, remain useful. We promote phony free-enterprise on the Right and phony democratic socialism on the Left. Thus, we obtain a "free-enterprise" whose "competition" is carefully regulated by the bureaucracy we control and whose nationalized enterprises are controlled directly through our government. In this way, we maintain a society in which the basis of our power, legal titles to property and money, remain secure, but in which the peril of free, unregulated competition is avoided and popular sovereignty is nullified. The democratic process is a sitting duck for our money power. Invariably we determine the candidates of the major parties and then proceed to pick the winners. Any attempts at campaign reforms simply put the rules of the game more firmly under our government's control.

Totalitarianism of the fascist or communist varieties is no danger to us as long as bastions of private property remain to serve as our bases of operation. Totalitarian governments of both right and left, because of the vulnerability of their highly visible leaders to party rivals, can be manipulated easily from abroad. Primarily, totalitarian dictatorships efficiently prevent new money lords that could challenge our power from arising in whole continents, civilizations, and races. Perhaps a few words on ideology proper are in order before I conclude.

The only valid ideology, of course, is rational egoism, that is, the maximization of the individual's gratification by whatever means prove practical. This requires power over nature, especially, when possible, power over other humans who are the most versatile and valuable tools of all. Fortunately, we do not have a society of egoists. Money lords would be impossible in such a society as the mental spooks and rationalizations by which we characteristically manipulate and deceive would be a laughingstock.

Under such circumstances a policy of live and-let live or true "laissez-faire" anarchy might be the only alternative. Certainly a hierarchical order would be difficult to maintain by force alone. However, in the current era, while minds are yet in the thrall of altruistic, collectivist, and divine moralistic spooks, the egoist's rational course is to utilize such spooks to control others.

The next speaker, Professor M., will detail the key in situation of our power: Central Banking.

PROFESSOR M. ON THE ECONOMICS OF CENTRAL BANKING

As you have a doctorate degree in economics from a great university, I will touch as lightly as my verbosity allows on facts accepted by economic "science" and proceed to occult aspects of Central Banking. Since the division of labor is the key to all human achievement and satisfaction, a system of exchange is crucial. Barter is hopelessly complicated. A command economy, in which each does and receives what he is told, is also hopelessly cumbersome and fails to take advantage of individual initiative, ability, and concrete knowledge.

A medium of exchange, money, is the obvious solution. (Even our highly centralized economies on the socialist model now enthusiastically embrace money as an indispensable simplifying tool in their economic planning.) When left to themselves, people of a given geographical area settled upon a durable luxury commodity, usually gold or silver, to use as money. Because money is a store of value as well as a medium of exchange, people saved part of their gold income rather than spending it all. This gold was often stored in the vaults of a local goldsmith, the precursor of the modern banker, for safekeeping. The depositor received a receipt that entitled him to an equal quantity and quality of gold on demand from the goldsmith. At some point the goldsmith realized that there was no reason he could not loan out some of the gold for interest as long as he kept gold on hand sufficient to meet the fairly predictable withdrawal rate. After all, he simply promised to pay on demand, not hold the gold as such. Better yet, he could simply issue more receipts for gold than he had gold and the receipts, renamed notes, could circulate freely among the populace as money.

However, he soon found that there was a definite limit set on this process by reality. Not all the extra notes issued circulated forever among the public. The rate of note redemption began to increase rapidly as the receipts passed into the hands of people unfamiliar with his reputation and especially when competitive goldsmiths, always eager for more gold reserves, came into possession of his notes. To prevent a disastrous run on his gold reserves, note issuance had to be kept within bounds. But the spending power of over-issuance was a grave
temptation. Especially relished was the power over governments, industry, and merchants that the miraculous loan power of the goldsmith could obtain.

Many succumbed to temptation, overextended themselves, and brought ruin to their depositors while others slowly became wealthy bankers by pursuing conservative loan policies. At this point, according to economic "science," Central Banks are instituted to protect the public from periodic financial catastrophe at the hands of unscrupulous fractional reserve bankers. Nothing could be further from the truth. Central Banks are established to remove the limitation on over issuance that reality places on competitive banking systems.

As early as ancient Babylon and India, Central Banking, the art of monopolizing the issuance of money, had been developed into a perfect method for looting the general public. Even today many bankers copy the traditions of the earlier exploitative priesthood and design their banks to resemble temples! Defenses of Central Banking are simply part of the deception that lies at the heart of all power elites. Let us look at the way a new Central Bank is created where none has existed previously. We bankers approach the Prince or ruling assembly (both of whom always want more money to fight wars or to curry favor with the people and, typically, are ignorant of economics) with a compelling proposal: "Grant our bank a national Charter to regulate private banking and to issue legal tender notes, that is, force our notes to be accepted as payment for all debts, public and private. In exchange we will provide the government all the notes it prudently requires at interest rates easily payable with existing taxes.

The increased government purchasing power thus created will simultaneously assure the power and prestige of the currently precarious nation and stimulate the sluggish, credit-starved economy to new heights of prosperity. Most important the violent banking panics and credit collapses caused by unscrupulous private bankers will be replaced by our even handed, beneficent and scientific management of money and banking. Our public-spirited expertise will be at the disposal of the state, while we remain independent enough of momentary political pressures to assure sound management." For a while this system seems to work remarkably well with full employment for everyone.

The government and public does not notice that we issuers of the new notes are using the notes we create out of thin air to surreptitiously build economic empires at the expense of established interests. Because of the legal tender laws, few of the new notes issued by the Central Bank are returned for redemption in gold. In fact, private banks and even a few foreign banks may begin to use the Central Bank's notes as reserves for further issuance of credit. Soon enough, though, prices begin to rise as the added notes increase demand relative to the quantity of goods and services. As the value of their savings decline more and more, foreigners in particular begin to question the value of the Central Bank's notes and start to demand redemption in gold.

We, of course, do not take responsibility for the rampant inflation when it comes. We blame inflation on evil speculators who drive up prices for personal gain, as well as the greed of organized labor and business who are promptly made subject to wage and price controls. Even the consumer can be made to feel guilty for agreeing to pay the high prices! Mistaking symptoms for causes the government accepts the banker's analysis of the problem and continues to give the Bank free reign in monetary policy. By slowing the rate of note issuance periodically the ultimate crisis stage is postponed until many decades after the original Central Bank Charter was granted. Before the rapidly dwindling gold reserves on which faith in our Bank depends is exhausted we abruptly contract our loan volume to private industry and government as well. With the contraction of the money supply a great deflationary crash begins in earnest with all its attendant unemployment, bankruptcies, and civil strife. We do not take responsibility for the depression.

We blame it on evil hoarders who are refusing to spend their money and the prophets of doom who are spoiling business confidence. The government accepts this analysis and leaves monetary policy in our hands. If things go well we bankers channel the fury and unrest into puppet movements and pressure groups that carry our agents into full control of the government. Once in charge we devalue our outstanding bank notes in terms of gold and make them nonconvertible for all but possibly foreign Central Banks and begin plans to restore a "prosperity" that will be totally ours. When lucky, we are able to confiscate the gold of private citizens as punishment for hoarding during the climax of the depression.

Once the old order is subdued during the chaos of the crash and desperation of the depression, the field is open for our full finance capitalist system to be realized. If the money lords behind the Central Bank can avoid lapsing into political and economic competition among themselves a new and lasting order can be established. A war timed for this period of consolidation provides the perfect excuse for the regimentation required to crush all opposition.

Professor B., a former Chairman of a Central Bank, will explain the functioning of the Central Bank in the typical, fully developed finance capitalist system.

PROFESSOR B. ON THE FUNCTION OF THE CENTRAL BANK IN THE MATURE FINANCE CAPITALIST SYSTEM

In its pristine form a Central Bank is a private monopoly of a nation's money and credit issuance supported by the coercive power of the state. That the Central Bank be directly in our hands is vital until our new order is firmly established throughout the governmental, business, intellectual and political spheres of society. After our order is consolidated, formal nationalization of the Central Bank with great fanfare is usually advisable in order to dispel any lingering suspicion that it is operated for private gain. Of course only loyal agents of the dynasty are allowed to obtain high offices in the Bank and our power remains intact.

Obvious private monopolies are always the targets of sharp reformist agitators. Only the most paranoid, however, can see through the public facade to the private monopoly of the nationalized or quasi-nationalized Central Bank. The Central Bank is the primary monopoly on which all our monopoly power depends. The occult power of the Central Bank to create money out of nothing is the fountain head that fuels our far-flung financial and political empire. I will make a quick survey of a few of the ways this secret money power is brought to bear.

Basically, the power of our Central Bank flows from its control over the points of entry into the economy of new, inflationary money which it creates out of thin air. Ordinarily, bills of exchange, acceptances, private bonds, government bonds and other credit instruments are purchased by the Central Bank through specially privileged dealers in order to put the new money, often only checking accounting entries, into circulation. The dealers are allowed a large profit since they are fronts operated by our agents. Our purchase of government securities pleases the government, as our purchase of private debt pleases private debtors. As a quid pro quo to assure "good management" our agents are given directorships, managerial posts, and offices in the corporations and governments so benefited. As the addiction to the narcotic of inflationary easy credit grows and grows we demand more and more control of our dependent entourage of governments and corporations. When we finally end the easy credit to "combat inflation" the enterprises and governments either fall directly into our hands, bankrupt, or are rescued at the price of total control.

Also, we ruling bankers control the flow of money in the economy through the wide authority of the Central Bank to license, audit, and regulate private banks. Banks that loan to interests outside the loyal entourage are "audited" by the Central Bank and found to be dangerously overextended. Just a hint of insolvency from the respected Central Bank authorities is enough to cause a run on the disobedient bank or at least dry up its vital lines of credit. Soon the banking establishment learns to follow the hints and nods of your father's agents at the Central Bank automatically.

Further, the periodic cycles of easy money and tight money that we initiate through our control of the Central Bank cause corresponding fluctuations in all markets. Our inner circle knows in advance the timing of these cycles and, therefore reaps windfall profits by speculating in commodity, stock, currency, gold, and bond markets. Monopolistic stock and commodity Exchanges are a vital adjunct to our power made possible by our Central Bank power. We do not allow a fair auction market to exist, but make a great show of "tough" government regulation to create a false sense of confidence among small investors. With the aid of our regulatory charade and financial power we are able to maintain Exchanges tailored to our entourage's need to manipulate stock prices at the expense of independent investors.

Our privileged specialists on the floors of our Exchanges, aided by the propaganda of our financial press and brokerage houses, continually play on naivete' and greed to drain the savings of the unwary into our coffers. The stock, commodities, and securities held in trading accounts by the Exchange and brokerage houses provides us with a clout far beyond our own actual holdings with which we can manipulate prices and win proxy fights for corporate takeovers.

Little danger to our lucrative racket exists from public spirited regulation. Our manipulations are so complex that only the most brilliant experts could comprehend them. To most economists our Exchange operations appear to be helpful efforts to "stabilize" the market. We ruling bankers, if able to keep peace among ourselves, become richer and richer as time passes without the annoyance of exerting productive effort of benefit to others.

The next speaker, Professor G. will discuss the secrets of social legislation and policy that do so much to cement our power.

PROFESSOR G. ON SOCIAL AND BUSINESS LEGISLATION AND POLICY

"There is no proletarian, not even a Communist, movement, that has not operated in the interests of money, in the direction indicated by money, and for the time being permitted by money--and that without the idealists among its leaders having the slightest suspicion of the fact." --Oswald Spengler, Decline of the West

"Also at the (SDS) convention, men from Business International Roundtables .... tried to buy up some radicals. These are the world's leading indus-trialists and they convene to decide how our lives are going to go ..... We were also offered Esso (Rockefeller) money. They want us to make a lot of radical commotion so they can look more in the center as they move to the left." --James Kunen, The Strawberry Statement Notes of a College Revolutionary

The danger to our system clearly is not that the "people" will spontaneously rise up and dispossess us. The "peo-ple" never initiate anything. All successful movements are led from the top, usually without the knowledge of the move-ment, by men like your father with vast resources and brilliant plans. The real danger arises in the upper-middle classes.

Occasionally, these people make vast fortunes through some brilliant technological innovation in their business or through the favor of local politicians that escape our influence. Because of their ignorance of the reality of our power, however, the new rich usually fall easily into our hands. For instance, they seldom realize until too late that the dozens of loans they may owe to apparently independent banks can be called simultaneously with a mere nod from your father. Graver danger is presented by those whose enterprises are so successful as to be self-financing. Since the advent of the corporate income tax truly self-financing corporations are extremely rare. Most disquieting is when these upstarts acquire the covert or open support and advice of your father's major international antagonists. This is par-ticularly dangerous in countries with long democratic tradi-tions where it is difficult to make our arbitrary rulings stick.

The best solution is to enact comprehensive taxes and business regulations in the name of the common good. Such measures reduce the incidence of significant upstart competi- tion to manageable levels. This policy, of course, strangles innovation and productivity. Reduction of the GNPs in countries under your father's control would be acceptable in the interests of secure power under the pretext of conserva-tion, ecology, or no-growth stability except that if carried too far your father's clout vis-a-vis his international rivals would be impaired. The most difficult problem for the money lord is determining the level of social and economic freedom he dares allow for the sake of his international power. Only method is to maintain a home base of carefully monitored, relative freedom on which to base the economic and military strength required to maintain an empire of totalitarian dic- tatorships abroad. The following measures, however, are found necessary by nearly all money lords:

1. Steeply Graduated Income Tax. Income tax does not affect us because our money was accumulated before the tax was imposed and most of it is now safely protected in our network of tax exempt foundations. Foundation income and capital can legally be used to finance the bulk of our social, economic, literary, and even political propaganda. In a pinch it is easily diverted to illegal uses. Expensive "studies" required by our profitable economic operations can be legitimately financed through foundations. To the middle classes, however. income tax makes life into an endless treadmill. Even the most productive find themselves unable to accumulate significant capital. They are forced into the clutches of our Central Bank entourage for injections of the inflationary credit which we are privileged to create out of nothing. The self-financing wealth of the legendary 19th Century robber barons and early Twentieth Century tycoons is no longer possible. Although your grand father owed his start to just those wide-open conditions, he was among the first of the super-rich to advocate the erection of the tax wall that is now in place. Please note that in democratic countries eternal vigilance is required to prevent our tax shield from being riddled with loop holes by conniving legislators, who are usually of the tax oppressed, upper-middle class origins themselves.

2. Business Regulation. When upstarts slip through our financial tentacles and tax shields, perhaps with the aid of outsiders, a second line of defense becomes vital licensing in the crucial area of broadcasting has proven particularly necessary. This makes serious upstart-led mass political challenge impossible. Harassment by bureaucrats armed with arbitrary and voluminous industrial safety regulations is a new and increasingly effective technique. Security registra-tion requirements, "to protect the small investor," can cause fatal delays in an upstart's ability to raise capital on the stock market. Ecological considerations are easily perverted to stymie the plans of those who would upset the stability of our carefully planned system. Anti-trust law, however, is our ultimate weapon. The handy doctrine of "pure and perfect" competition which we have fostered in our universities is ideally suited to convict- mg any successful competitor, at our discretion. If the competitor charges a lower price than ours he is accused of "unfair competition" aimed at driving us from the field to impair future competition. If he asks the same price as we he is open to the charge of collusion. If he charges more than us, he is obviously exploiting his "monopoly power" at the expense of the consumer. Fortunately, the rulings of our bureaucrats are so complicated that even when successfully appealed in court many years elapse before the ruling is rendered. By then our goals are often achieved through harassment. Product quality, safety, and testing regulations are excellent methods by which we insulate our established industries from potential competition. Beside raising the costs of entry into the auto business, for instance, the cost of "safety" can be passed to the consumer along with a healthy profit mark-up.

3. Subsidies, Tariffs, and Foreign Aid. Although direct sub-sidies can occasionally be procured for our entourage of cor-porations by appealing to the masses' desire to preserve jobs, this exploitative technique is usually too obvious. Tariffs are easily passed, but lead to retaliation against our foreign holdings. Foreign aid and soft (sure to be defaulted) govern-ment guaranteed loans, however, fill the bill perfectly under modern conditions. Foreign aid maintains our empire of for-eign dictators abroad while providing guaranteed, highly profitable sales to our corporations at home base. Foreign aid should always be contingent on the purchase of goods, usually military hardware, that only our entourage of firms can provide. Few have the courage to oppose such altruistic aid to the "starving masses" of the "third world."

4. Centralization of Power. Real division of power between national, state, and local government is dangerous to our system. When local politicians have real autonomy, even in limited spheres, they can do much to enable upstarts to challenge our power. Our program is to bring all levels of government under our sway through such innovations as federal aid, revenue sharing, high federal taxation, and regional government.

5. Alliance with the Lower Classes. In order to keep our valuable regulatory machinery in place and under our control we must have the mass support of the numerous lower classes against our vigorous, but scarce middle-class rivals. The best method is to provide the lower classes with sub-sidies at the expense of the middle class. This creates a mutual hatred that prevents the middle class from appealing effectively to the lower classes for support. Social security, free health care, unemployment benefits, and direct welfare payments, while doing nothing for us directly, create a de-pendent class whose support for our critical measures can easily be made part of a package deal. Please note also that the major labor unions began with our financing and are led to this day by leaders of our choosing. No one can rise to or remain at the top of a rough and tumble union without our financial backing. In spite of their rebellious rhetoric, bought union leaders are the source of our power over the manage- ment of firms with widely held stock. Unions are the ultimate weapon for destroying otherwise invulnerable, self-financing rivals.

Further, downward flexibility of wages and prices which obtains without widespread unionization would in- crease the ability of the economy to survive without our aid during the economic crises we create. Bread and circuses are as useful today as in Roman times for mobilizing the mob against our staid adversaries.

Next, Professor D. will describe our education policies.

PROFESSOR D. ON THE ROLE OF PUBLIC EDUCATION

"In our dreams we have limitless resources and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands. The present educational conventions fade from our minds, and unhampered by tradition, we work our good will upon a grateful and respon-sive rural folk...The task we set before ourselves is a beautiful one, to train these people as we find them to a perfectly ideal life just as they are. So we will organize our children into a little community and teach them to do in a perfect way the things their fathers and mothers are doing in an imperfect way in the home, in shop, and on the farm." --The objective of Rockefeller "philanthropies" stated by him and Gates in Occasional Letter No. 1 of Rockefeller's General Education Board.

"A general state education is a mere contrivance for molding people to be exactly like one another; and as the mold in which it casts them is that which pleases the predominant power in the government- whether this be a monarch, a priesthood, an aristoc-racy, or the majority of the existing generation--in proportion as it is efficient and successful, it estab- lishes a despotism over the mind, leading by natural tendency to one over the body." --John Stuart Mill

In order to maintain our system of power, the institution of universal public education is indispensable. The an-archy of private education in which any manner of dangerous ideas could be spread cannot be tolerated. Thus we make private education financially impossible to all but the few mostly the elite offspring of our financial entourage, by means of burdensome taxation and regulation. The primary purpose of public education is to inculcate the idea that our crucial institutions of coercion and monopoly were created for the public good by popular national heroes to blunt the past power of the malefactors of great wealth. Crucial is to create the impression that, although the people have been exploited in the past, today the wealthy are at the mercy of an all- powerful government which is firmly in the hands of the people or do-gooding liberals.

For those of more sophistication who reject this Pollyanna view of reality, we promote the "liberal reformer mentality" which holds that a new era of reform is on the verge of crushing forever the last vestiges of money lordism. Of course, the reforms, after taking shape as a bewildering myriad of regulatory agencies and taxes, are found to be ineffective in subordinating our power to the popular will, whereupon we stir up another era of progressive reform.

Our contrived Left-Right spectrum which our compulsory education helps to make universal is valuable in assuring that this charade does not get out of hand. The Pollyannas in the middle are neither dangerous nor useful in this endeavor. What is needed is a feeble, but persistent right conservatism to moderate and emasculate the liberal reforms. Conserva- tives tend to resist all the advances in centralized, govern-ment power that we lead the liberals to see as necessary in order to totally end the "undemocratic" power of money in society. Conservatism would rather promote a "pluralism" of competing interests in which money is the medium of compe-tition than risk the excesses of "big government," When "liberal" reforms show signs of exceeding our intentions and actually threaten to place our key institutions in the hands of the people, we can always count on the conservatives to defend our power under the illusion that they are defending the legitimate rights of "free-enterprise capitalists." On the rare occasions when conservatives call for subjecting our enterprises to laissez-faire competition, we can count on the dominant liberal reformers to insist on more government interference, unaware of our desire for such, in effect, self- administered regulation.

The Right has such a fear of the Left's dream of democra-tic collectivism and the Left such a hatred for what it sees as the Right's elitist, rugged individualism that there is little danger that they will ever join forces to overturn our govern-ment-backed monopolies even though we violate the ideals of both left and right.

Centralization of control at the state, or preferably national level, assists in building the climate of opinion we require in public education. Failing to obliterate local control, other methods nearly as effective are available. Our over-whelming financial clout in the publishing industry can induce relatively uniform textbook selection. Further leverage can be created by promoting teacher colleges and teaching machines. National teacher's associations and unions are also an excellent power base from which to foster our programs of indoctrination.

With our great influence in publishing and publicity we are able to, selectively popularize educational theorists whose views are incidentally beneficial, compatible, or at least not in conflict with our own goals. This way we obtain sincere, energetic activists to propagate our desires without having to reveal our motives or even existence. We do not want an educational system that produces hard-driving individuals bent on amassing great wealth and power. Therefore, we discourage education that would develop the potential powers of students to their fullest. "Liberal" education that stresses knowledge for its own sake or even sophistry and sterile mental gymnastics is of no danger to us. "Relevant," vocational, or career oriented education also poses no danger to our power.

Education that prepares students to accept a cog-like existence in our military-industrial-social-welfare- regulation complex is ideal. Progressive education with its stress on "social adjustment" also produces the conformity we require of our subjects. Emphasis on competitive sports may produce a certain amount of disruptive competitiveness among the participants, but primarily has the effect of creating life-long voyeuristic spectators who will enthusias-tically sublimate their competitiveness into endless hours of following college and professional sports on the boob tube. Space spectaculars and dramatic political infighting are also marvelous diversions with which to occupy the masses.

Anyone seeking social change will gravitate to the field of education. Our strategy is simple: Let only those succeed whose influence would be compatible with our power. En- courage all who would develop the passive or receptive mode of existence. Discourage all who promote the aggressive or active capacities. Build a great cult of salvation through end-less education, touting it as the "democratic" path to success Deride the frontal approach to success of the "outmoded'; rugged individualist.

Before yielding the floor to Professor X., who will discuss the role of secret societies and prestigious clubs, I would like to comment on the demise of religious education as a vehicle for social control. Religion, in its time, was a remarkable weapon for inculcating subservience, altruism, and self-abne-gation among our subjects. We did not give up this weapon voluntarily. Your grandfather, for one, supported the Baptist faith well after most finance capitalists had turned wholly to secular ideologies. However, a trend toward rationality in human affairs plods along inexorably quite outside the reach of our power.

Only in our totalitarian dictatorships can this trend be quashed entirely. In the semi-open societies in which our money power is based, the forces of reason can only be impeded and diverted. Some have theorized that, eventually, widespread rational egoism will overturn our order. I am confident that secular faiths and just plain confu-sion will suffice to sustain our power for many centuries to come.

PROFESSOR X. ON PRESTIGIOUS ASSOCIATIONS AND SECRET SOCIETIES

"Every compulsion is put upon writers to become safe, polite, obedient, and sterile. In protest, I de-clined election to the National Institute of Arts and Letters some years ago, and now I must decline the Pulitzer Prize." --Upton Sinclair

"It is useless to deny, because it is impossible to conceal, that a great part of Europe--the whole of Italy and France and a great portion of Germany, to say nothing of other countries--is covered with a network of these secret societies, just as the super-ficies of the earth is now being covered with rail- roads." --Benjamin Disraeli (Earl of Beaconsfield),July 14, 1856.

In preserving and protecting our grasp on nations we must exert veiled control of all major opinion molding associations and especially prestigious clubs which attract the leaders in various fields and do so much to influence the dis-pensing of commanding positions in government and business. Associations of the leading scholars, businessmen, writers, religionists, artists, bureaucrats, newsmen, ideolo-gists, publishers, broadcasters, and professional men as well as special interest groups representing laborers, farmers, consumers, racial minorities, and so on must be subtly kept under the broad limits of our sway. Since membership dues and fees are never sufficient to support their ambitious ac-tivities, voluntary, non-profit organizations are easy prey for the nearly unlimited financial resources of our entourage. However, our real motive, to further our political and econo-mic power, must not be revealed in the process. Our policies must be laboriously rationalized in terms compatible with prevalent ideologies and moralities or the material advantage of the groups involved. Leaders of such groups are remarkably quick to accept our rationalizations when financial support is extended. We engage in outright bribery only as a last resort, and then, only in extreme cases. Our long-range interests are better served by temporarily postponing a policy victory than by risking exposure of our power by at- tempting outright bribery. In fact, clumsy bribery and intim-idation attempts are characteristic of our foolish nouveau riche opponents.

As an example, if we decide that federal rather than state chartering or licensing of corporations would further our control over the economy, we would not simply order politicians and opinion leaders to support our desires. Cor-porations not relishing central control would be suspicious that something was afoot and might expose our plot. Our strategy would be as follows:

1. Sacrifice one of our less competent management teams in a well-publicized corporate scandal in order to focus attention on the "widespread problem of corporate corruption under current, lax regula-tions."

2. Through well-funded agents, thrust into the public-ity spotlight intellectuals or groups who already support federal licensing as a piecemeal step toward socialism. (One can find pre-existing supporters for nearly any measure with sufficient effort.)

3. After the issue is before the public, offer to support through foundations the "objective" study of the federal licensing proposals being discussed with an eye toward proposing legislation. Often, simultaneous support for studies by disreputable, irrational groups who will oppose the proposal is useful as well. Provide no platform for well-reasoned opposition.

4. When a ground swell of support appears to be building provide the interested lobbying organ- izations with plenty of funds to grease the palms of politi- cians. The enactment of the federal licensing law thus appears as the will of society. Last ditch opposition automa- tically appears mean spirited, obstructionist, reactionary, and paranoid, serving only to discredit our opposition. In our fully developed system of finance capitalist thought control and promotion control, our hierarchy of prestigious associations is capped by a single prestige society: The Council of World Affairs. This organization is a front for the secret society of which your father is head.

This secret society is made up of the people who have spoken, plus six others not present. You are replacing Professor Q. who is to retire shortly. Eventually you will replace your father. We thirteen are your father's advisors and only confidants. All other agents are misled as to the bulk of our objectives and motives. Their knowledge is restricted to the details required by their assignments. The penalty for disloyalty is death.

The Council is invaluable for propagating our policy deci-sions to our entourage without revealing our motives and strategy. In many instances, policy can he successfully sold to our entourage and thus transmitted to the multitudes by merely airing it along with appropriate rationalizations in a single awe-inspiring session of the Council. The informal power of the Council is such that our policy manipulations are usually attainable without the clumsy exercises in brute power that invariably snag the independent power seekers. The Council is at the heart of what is called the Establish-ment and we are at the heart of the Council.

At the Council's inception, we worked hard to attract the successful of all fields with all the prestige that our money power could buy. We had to work hard convincing the independent, self-made Council members to move in harmony with our policy objectives. We had many failures. Now everything is changed. Membership is no longer a reward for success as much as it is a prerequisite for major success. Without Council membership only the most outstanding can achieve national prominence. With membership, glaring mediocrities, with the "right" attitudes, achieve prominence. In fact. mediocrities are much more adapted to propagating our policy rationalizations and less likely to detect and oppose our ulterior motives. A power lusting mediocrity is not likely to judge his benefactors too harshly or inquire diligently into the nature of the power structure that brought him what he fears was undeserved success. The vanity of even idealistic, committed humanitarians militates against such a course.

The Council is now a giant employment agency of loyal-ists ready to parrot our public line from the commanding posts of government, foundations, broadcasting, industry, banking, and publishing. Although Council members are en-couraged to take sides and bicker over the diversionary issues we create to entertain and enfeeble the populace, their solidarity in defending our power structure, root and branch, when pressed is a sight to behold! And to think that most see themselves as righteous defenders of the public good while they dismiss whispered rumors of our power structure as "kooky paranoia."

Classical secret societies with elaborate circles within circles no longer play a major role in finance capitalist power structures. Most wide membership secret societies have degenerated into middle class excuses for escaping the wife and kids once a month for the company of men. But secret societies were a major weapon of our bourgeoisie forebearers in their struggle with the old feudal order of kings and princes. Under authoritarian despotism of the old style, the secret society was the only place a free thinking man could express himself. Through threats of exposure, loyalty oaths, patronage, deception, and rewards we bound such malcon-tents into a fierce force for our revolution. The multitude of degrees, occult mumbo-jumbo, and vague humanitarianism concealed the real goals of our secret societies from the bulk of the membership. The roles of the "Illuminated" Masonic Lodges in European revolutions were decisive in our final victory over the old order.

I now yield the floor to Professor Y. who will discourse on the real "secret societies" the Modern Finance Capitalist State: the National Security Institutions and Intelligence Agencies.

PROFESSOR Y. ON COVERT OPERATIONS AND INTELLIGENCE

In our fully developed state-capitalist systems we have found absolute control of governmental intelligence gathering and covert operations to be vital.

Besides providing a valuable tool in our struggle with rival dynasties, such control is now an integral and necessary part of our day to day operations. Large intelligence communities are inevitable, given the system of all encompassing governments which we have imposed upon the world during our ascent to power. Our power would be short-lived indeed if the pervasive influence and power of these iron-disciplined intelligence agencies fell into the hands of mere politicians, especially those beyond our control.

We do not allow intelligence agencies to pursue the "national interest," the way the public conceives "spies" to operate. Politicians cannot be permitted to divert the power and influence of our intelligence community from the esoteric requirements of our Money Power to petty political struggles.

Neither nationalistic aspirations of races and peoples nor ideological visions of intellectuals for humanity can be allowed to pervert intelligence and covert operations. Our rationalizations, both within the intelligence community and to the public at large, must be diverse and flexible, but the intelligence community must further without exception the inexorable goals we have set for humanity.

No crisis is more serious for our Money Power than an attempt by a head of government to assume personal control of intelligence and operations or to by-pass existing agencies by setting up parallel ones. Such intrusions must be met decisively. Although a contrived scandal to remove the offending politician from office is the first line of defense, we dare not shrink from assassination when necessary.

Perhaps the most accurate overview of our intelligence community can be achieved by visualizing it as a "nationalized secret society." Our predecessors, in their struggle against the old order of kings and princes, had to finance secret societies such as the Illuminati, Masons, German Union, etc. out of their own pockets.

At great expense and risk such secret societies were able to infiltrate the major governmental and private institutions of the nations that our noble predecessors targeted for take over by the Money Power. Such bureaucratic take-overs are expensive and time consuming. They can be considered complete only when promotions, raises, and advancements are no longer based on objective service to the stated organizational objectives, but are in the hands of the infiltrating group and its secret goals.

How much easier it is for us, the inheritors of a fully developed state- capitalist system! By appealing to "national security" we are able to finance and erect secret societies of a colossal scope, far beyond the wildest dreams of our path breaking predecessors. Besides the benefits of public financing reaped by these "nationalized secret societies," we obtain a decisive advantage from the fact that these our "spook" operations are sanctioned by law!

Maintaining discipline, loyalty, and secrecy is no longer solely a matter of propaganda, blackmail, patronage, and intimidation. Although these remain important tools, especially in emergency cases, ordinary discipline among initiates (now called agents) can be encouraged by appealing to patriotism and can be enforced in courts of law by prosecuting "national security violations."

As massive as our intelligence community has become in itself, we still operate strictly on the finance capitalist principle of leverage. Just as a rational finance capitalist never owns more stock in a corporation than the bare minimum required for control, intelligence operatives are placed only in as many key positions as are required to control the target organizations. Our goal, after all, is agent control of all significant organizations, not intelligence community member ship for the entire population.

The organizational pattern of baffling "circles within circles," characteristic of classical secret societies, is retained and refined by our intelligence community. That "one hand not know what the other is doing" is essential to the success of our operations. In most cases, we do not allow the operatives themselves to know the ultimate, and when possible, even the short-range objectives of their assignments.

They operate under "covers" that disguise our goals not only from the public and target groups, but from the agents themselves. For instance, many agents operating under "left cover" are led to believe that the agency, or at least their department, is secretly, but sincerely motivated by socialistic ideology. Thus, they assume that the intelligence agency's ultimate goal is to guide left-wing groups in "productive" directions, even though they cannot always see how their own assignment fits into those assumed goals.

Other "left-cover" agents, those with right-wing predilections, are encouraged to believe the agency is simply "monitoring" violence prone, subversive groups in order to protect the public. When such agents are asked to participate in or even lead radical activity they assume that the ultimate objective is to fully infiltrate and destroy the organization for the good of the country. This is very seldom the case. We waste little or no money protecting the "public" or defending the "nation."

Agents operating under "right-cover" are handled in symmetrical fashion. Agents with right wing prejudices are encouraged to believe the agency is right-wing. Left-prejudiced agents are asked to operate under "right-cover" in order to "monitor" d

Posted on: 2011/8/8 16:17
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
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Re: The Beautiful Truth
#16


Såg just klart Dokumentären - Dying to Have Known (2006)
av samma filmmakare, Steve Kroschel.
Verkar som denna ägnat mycket av sitt senare arbete med att "promota" gersonmetoden.

Tycket alla som är intresserade av "alternativ"-hälsa och som ser skeptiskt på den etablerade medicinens dogmer, bör se denna.

- Dying to Have Known (2006)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSlO5WuL4-4&

Vad kul det är att hitta något som är nytt för en, söka på vaken innan man tipsar och hitta ett 2 år gammalt inlägg i exakt samma ämne, vaken.se är så jädrans bra ställe!
Vore najs om folk slutade gnabbas som små skolpojkar dock =)

Pöss!/rocketbanana

Posted on: 2011/4/4 10:17
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
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Re: UNITED ÖRESUND, Sveriges yngsta "kyrka"
#17


Tack för en trevlig analys, som jag i det stora hela helt håller med i, speciellt i punkten att deras tekniker troligen är utvecklade utomlands.

Varför min nyfikenhet till vad just ni tycker kommer från en den stora respekt jag har för det breda kunnandet och den, oftast, öppna diskussion som uppstår här.

Jag snubblade över denna organisation genom en nära släkting som arbetar med två medlemmar som enligt henne uppvisar de klassiska sektmedlems beteenden, bryt med familj, personlighetsförändringar och i stort ett ointresse för allt utom kyrkan. Så mycket av min fråga stammar ur en vilja att hjälpa, och för att hjälpa måste man skaffa information, där av, fråga vaken.se.

Men, troligen hade jag mest avfärdat U-Ö som vilken ny-kyrka som helst, deras reklamfilm vad det som gjorde att jag blev engagerad, kände en stark känsla av att bli "påverkad" av den vilket fick mig att må smått illa och bli lagom förbannad då jag vet hur lätt TV-tittare sugs in av sådana tekniker, jag drog det även över sin spetts och började gå väldigt långt i mina slutsatser, luciferianskt maktövertaganden, tankar om liknande kyrkor finns i fler länder, övergav denna mer okritiska tolkning rätt snabbt men mitt ogillande av organisationen var född och kommer inte dö av så snabbt
Jag gillar inte att folk luras, t.ex. blinkar under fraktionen av en sekund förkortningen ICLM över skärmen, vilket ledde mig till Institute for Creativity Leadership and Management http://www.iclm.dk/
"Scott is an author, coach, and teacher, who leads the Institute for Creativity, Leadership, and Management (ICLM). He is President of Eurolead.net representing over 60 churches. Scott is the author of seven books in eight languages. He is based in Denmark and married to Linda, pastor of a thriving church in Arhus, Denmark and has two grown children. His speciality is leadership development and travels extensively working with churches in Europe and beyond. The Institute for Creativity, Leadership and Management (ICLM) is the ministry of Scott Wilson. Based in Denmark, Scott travels extensively in Scandinavia, Europe and beyond, teaching, preaching and consulting with churches. "
Som också knyts till organisationen http://www.eurolead.net/

Eftersom ledtrådarna var ytterst intrasslade bestämde jag mig för att kolla upp vad ni (vi) på vaken visste/tyckte om saken.

Sen ville jag även dela med mig av deras reklamfilm då jag tror den kan användas som ett bra typexempel på hypnospropaganda.

Dela gärna med er av egna erfarenheter av sektliknande organisationer, tror folk idag är otroligt mycket mer lättpåverkade än tidigare, jag tror alla har en känsla av att något håller på att hända, vore trist om någon av oss förlorade en nära anhörig till en företagskyrka.

PUSS OCH KRAM!/ROCkeTbANAn4

P.S. tack för insikten om deras symbol, kan vara mitt i prick! Alltid kan man lita på att någon vaken kan lösa ett problem!
LOVE IT!


Posted on: 2011/2/21 17:23
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
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UNITED ÖRESUND, Sveriges yngsta "kyrka"
#18


Hej, introducerades nyligen till en "ny" kyrka i Malmö/Köpenhamnsregionen, som kallas UNITED ÖRESUND.

Ingeting ovanligt, en kyrka som riktar sig till den nya generationen ateister som har en känsla av övernaturlighet och innerligt söker en gemenskap med en grupp.
En av deras egna slogans är: Jesus utan religion.

Ingenting fel med den sloganen, tror inte Jesus ville ha någon religion, han ville nog ha förändring av folkets inställning till institutioner, finansiella som religiösa.

Vad som fick mig att haja till var en av deras filmer -

http://www.united.nu/tvyeswecan (hypnosvarning!)

Måste nästan lägga till en varning här, jag fick en mycket elak känsla av att bli smått hypnotiserad av denna film, ständiga förändringar i ljudhastighet och bildhastighet samt en massiv samling textmeddelanden som blinkade till konstant, samtidigt som igenkänningsbar musik spelades. I mina ögon, en mycket proffsig produktion.

Min första tanke var att detta var en av de många företagskyrkor som poppar upp som svampar som en följd av den Ekumeniska rörelsen, the world council of churches samarbete med FN och etablerade religiösa institutioner runt om världen.
Pengar finns att tjäna, psykopaterna känner lukten.

Mina frågor är, känner någon av er till organisationen UNITED ÖRESUND AB?

Vad tänker ni om deras filmatisering av sin vision(YES WE CAN-filmen)?

Jag undrar ytterligare om symbolen på podiet som pastorn står bakom, i YES WE CAN-filmen, den som liknar zodiak symbolen för kräftan, fast sammanlänkad till något som liknar en skjöld, har inte lyckats hitta den.

Efter litet detektivarbete har jag lyckats hitta lite information om själva företaget, som är registrerat som ett aktiebolag utan ett nämnande av tro samfund i sin förklaring, de verkar även höra samman med ett företag som sysslar med låtsaskrig med lasergevär kallat laser skirmish scandinavia.(träna dem unga!)
^
http://www.121.nu/onetoone/sokresulta ... esund%20ab&lokaldel=&ort=

Verkar sammanlänkade med pingströrelsen och även med http://www.eurolead.net/ - En organisation som utbildar ledare... Låter lite som en "Common Purpose"- klon.

Man måste ju vara kritisk =D

Vore jättetacksam om jag kunde få er syn på detta företag och speciellt filmen jag tidigare länkade till. Tack och hej!
/Rocketbanana



Posted on: 2011/2/19 22:47
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Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
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Re: Problem Reaktion Lösning på Galaktisk Skala
#19


Låter som du inspirerats av Airl, http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vid ... erview/alieninterview.htm , men vem har inte det.
Seilon, har du lite länkar och sånt där man kan läsa mer om dina tankar, eller är det din egen vinkling du talar om här.
Hur som helst, tack för en fin text, skönt med någon som är litet uppe i det blå, känns skönt att man inte är den ende =D
Ha det bra och kom gärna med mer av sådana funderingar!
Hej då/Rocketbanana

P.S. ja, time WILL tell, förhoppningsvis i alla fall

Posted on: 2011/2/16 22:34
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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Re: Dn: Vaccinrapport var medveten bluff
#20


Karin Bojs gör det igen! Misslyckande #2345221
Förtidspensionering med arvode från Eli Lily?

http://www.naturalnews.com/031117_BMJ_Dr_Andrew_Wakefield.html

Tog en titt på BMJ's hemsida efter att ha ögnat DN för ett par veckor sedan och slogs hur dåligt efterforskad artikeln var, nu visar det sig att fler har upprörts, kan vara kul om det blir retraktion eller om det bara blir tyst...



Posted on: 2011/1/31 1:24
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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Re: ÄR DEMOKRATI KORKAT?
#21


Jättebra film TreeofLiberty, såg den för ett par månaders sedan, den fick mig att tänka mycket på valet av statsskick.
Hur former som Tyranni, demokrati och anarki inte existerar utan de enda formerna som finns är Oligarki och Republik.
Hur formerna demokrati och anarki är temporära former som snabbt antigen blir till en Oligarki(som vi har nu) eller rör sig mot mer mänskliga värderingar i en Republik.
Tyrannier existerar helt enkelt inte.

Jag ser Republiken som den enda vettiga styrelseformen då en allomfattande lag tycker behövs i samhällen som inte uppnått grunderna för mänsklig mognad, som jag tror kommer från en sund barnuppfostran.

Problemet med en Republik är att den kräver en otrolig karaktär och patos hos människorna inom republiken, annars kommer de begränsade delarna av staten lagstifta sig ur republiken, bli mer som en demokrati som nästan direkt blir en de facto oligarki.

Frågan jag grunnar på är om en Lag kräver en stat.

Också viktigt att se hur det politiska spektrumet står mellan total stat och total brist på stat, inte mellan kommunism och fascism.

Jag tror dock att minimal stat och decentraliserade styrelseskick är modern till mänsklig lycka och kreativitet.

Men som svar på frågan:
ÄR DEMOKRATI KORKAT?

- Ja, demokrati gynnar bara den elit som efter en kort tid blir basen för Oligarkin, eller de som väljer att kollapsa demokratin in i anarki som sedan leder till att mobben ber om oligarki.

Men viktigast tycker jag är att

Utan lag finns ingen frihet.

Men med lag kommer möjligheten att korrumpera den.

Svaret borde vara evig vaksamhet.

Vaksamhet kräver mognad.

Mognad kräver kärlek.

Kärlek kräver frihet.

hmmm...
/rocketbanana

Posted on: 2010/12/20 22:10
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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"Neopaganism" i Sverige
#22


Hej, hur mår ni? Själv är allt bra, fortsätter vada och njuter av att inte låta mig luras längre.

Satt och kollade upp nya hedniska rörelser, av komplicerade skäl, och fann detta trossamfund: "Samfundet Forn Sed Sverige" tidigare "Sveriges Asatrosamfund".

-Samfundet Forn Sed Sverige grundades 1994, under namnet Sveriges Asatrosamfund. (Vårt nya namn antogs på årstinget,

http://www.samfundetfornsed.se/

The Swedish Asatru Assembly (Sveriges asatrosamfund) is a Neopagan organization, founded in 1994, practicing old Norse paganism and Norse mythology. The group describes itself as a "democratic, non-racist, non-profit organisation." The Asatru Assembly arranges several blót rites, to honour the Norse gods.

Min fråga är om någon har en personlig erfarenhet av detta "nyhedniska" samfund, för mig var dess existens tidigare helt okänt.

Vad jag syftar på är finansiering och historia, är det endast en svensk intresseförening för nationens historia eller en del i en större rörelse, det är ju ingen idé att sparka in öppna dörrar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_Neopaganism
^var ursprungsartikeln som tog mig hit

Någon som vet något? Snälla skriv.

Tack och god natt/Rocketbanana

Posted on: 2010/11/20 1:48
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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Re: Jaha det blev som vi "foliehattar" förutspådde!
#23


Demokrati borde inte klassas som ett samhällskick, en demokrati är perioden då en konstitutionell republik rör sig mot en oligarki, eller från en oligarki till en konstitutionell republik[kan inte hitta exempel].
Precis som en anarki med andra ord.
Oligarki <> Demokratarki <> Republik(frihet & lag)

Har jag fel, eller är vi inte bara massa horungar födda i samma horhus som våra föräldrar??

Sekulär Humanism är en religion, 9 1 1 var ett insider jobb!

Militären langar knark!

I statens ögon är barnporr något possitivt, bättre hållhake finns inte.

Oj, så vad sa ni om lösenord och lönndörrar?

Tips: Svarta Pantern, var ett populärt lösen på min tid!

The end of the world will be a lucruative venture, I'm sure...

Hörs i cellen bredvid!/Rocketbanana[han som knackar Roxettedängor i morse]

Posted on: 2010/10/29 10:38
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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Re: Jag lyssnar på....
#24


Elliott Smith - Miss Misery [Early Version]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weVSNCodo7c

Collie Buddz - Burn down the System
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcbZ40MjxVg

Hej svejs i lingonskogen, två låtar som dök upp helt slumpartat i jakt på något helt annat.

/Friherre Raket Banan

Posted on: 2010/10/29 10:03
"Mig skrämmer ni inte alls, ni eländets herremän...
Beröva oss hoppets stjärna, den skall nog bli vår igen"
-Cornelis Vreeswijk
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