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Crop Circles are just Beam Weapons being tested. Get over it!!!
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Thats all it is.

Just particle beam weapons being fine tuned, with a UFO cover-story to make it all the more confusing.

They will soon be used against us.

Once they are improved and stronger.

Wake up

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Re: Crop Circles are just Beam Weapons being tested. Get over it!!!
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... hehe...vem är confused här...

Posted on: 2008/6/23 23:20
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Vet inte det var inte min poäng.

Din citat kanske visar att denna perssonen är confused.

Jag tänker själv kring det här, ska du CITERA någon annans info, har du åsikt?

Kan du håla dig till ämnet?

Är du vuxen? ; )

Posted on: 2008/6/24 0:16
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Vet inte det var inte min poäng.

Din citat kanske visar att denna perssonen är confused.

Jag tänker själv kring det här, ska du CITERA någon annans info, har du åsikt?

Kan du håla dig till ämnet?

Är du vuxen? ; )


Citat: "Är du vuxen?"

Är du confused...

Jag håller mig till ämnet, det är ju att det råder confusing, min respons är att det kanske är du som är det.

Var är dessa vapen någonstans då tror du.
Varför vill du (?) koppla bort det fron UFO:s?

Posted on: 2008/6/24 0:25
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kvantfysiken förklarar en hel del... alla möjligheter finns...

Posted on: 2008/6/24 15:04
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Som jag alltid säger då cropcirles kommer på tal är att jag har en film om detta, av matthew williams som jag mer än gärna skickar hem till dom som vill ha den.
Den handlar om personerna i fråga som gör cropcirles, hur dom gör, varför dom gör det osv osv. Mycket intresannt.
Dock säger jag inte att ALLA cirklar är gjorda på detta viset, jag säger bara att det är det troligaste.

Super duper "et" kommer från 40000 miljoner ljusår för att göra gubbar i våra fält teorin låter inte så trolig.

Men det finns rätt mycket paranormala aspekter med också.

Posted on: 2008/6/24 16:23
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emil322 skrev:
Som jag alltid säger då cropcirles kommer på tal är att jag har en film om detta, av matthew williams som jag mer än gärna skickar hem till dom som vill ha den.
Den handlar om personerna i fråga som gör cropcirles, hur dom gör, varför dom gör det osv osv. Mycket intresannt.
Dock säger jag inte att ALLA cirklar är gjorda på detta viset, jag säger bara att det är det troligaste.

Super duper "et" kommer från 40000 miljoner ljusår för att göra gubbar i våra fält teorin låter inte så trolig.

Men det finns rätt mycket paranormala aspekter med också.


Det är hur dom gör det.
Det är nog en mycket liten del av cirklarna som är man made. Deväldigt komplexa i Sydamerika har inga sådana hemmasnickare med att göra.

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Heh, som sagt, alla är inte man made, dom flesta av dom man ser på bild är.
I den filmen jag ständigt nämner får man se hur MÄNISOR gör många av dom mest kända cropcirclesen. Men jag antar att det är rymdvarelser som klätt ut sig till människor?

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Re: Crop Circles are just Beam Weapons being tested. Get over it!!!
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The Lorax skrev:
Thats all it is.

Just particle beam weapons being fine tuned, with a UFO cover-story to make it all the more confusing.

They will soon be used against us.

Once they are improved and stronger.

Wake up


Lorax, kan du förklara resonemanget bakom det här ganska radikala påståendet?

Jag tycker att crop circles pekar mot någonting helt annat än storebrors partikelkanoner...

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Re: Crop Circles are just Beam Weapons being tested. Get over it!!!
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Goinghome: Mark är ironisk på ett visst sätt med denna topic...

Mark önskar att vi ska få igång mer fungerande aktivism och mer projekt i verkligheten. Han ser en massa folk här inne i forumet som har pratat i åratal, men han ser inte samma sak ute i verkligheten.
Mark önskar att vi ska focusera på enkla, stora och viktiga frågor och sprida den kunskapen till folket.

Kanske ett konstigt sätt att utrycka sin frustration, men jag förstår mark.

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void skrev:
Goinghome: Mark är ironisk på ett visst sätt med denna topic...

Mark önskar att vi ska få igång mer fungerande aktivism och mer projekt i verkligheten. Han ser en massa folk här inne i forumet som har pratat i åratal, men han ser inte samma sak ute i verkligheten.
Mark önskar att vi ska focusera på enkla, stora och viktiga frågor och sprida den kunskapen till folket.

Kanske ett konstigt sätt att utrycka sin frustration, men jag förstår mark.


Nej inte alls, jag förklara... Oh men VISST, mer aktivismen, men det här inlägg var insperirande av NWO och mass media och "alternative" lifestyle underground fusk...

Posted on: 2008/6/25 12:44
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Re: Crop Circles are just Beam Weapons being tested. Get over it!!!
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Quote:

Goinghome skrev:
Quote:

The Lorax skrev:
Thats all it is.

Just particle beam weapons being fine tuned, with a UFO cover-story to make it all the more confusing.

They will soon be used against us.

Once they are improved and stronger.

Wake up


Lorax, kan du förklara resonemanget bakom det här ganska radikala påståendet?

Jag tycker att crop circles pekar mot någonting helt annat än storebrors partikelkanoner...


Sure!

Crop circles have been getting more advanced over time.

Crop circles were jumped apon by the mass media and eventuall "busted" so we are told by a few guys out with boards late at night, feulling time-wasting secondary arguments.

One up for the NWO!


The military with their space weaponry needs to test things, they cant go around blowing things up in cities, and they need to create a secondary reaction from the public (aka sociall conditioning) so that WHEN they reveal the weapons we know damn well sure that they work.

The primary reason is:

Military testing, the secondary reason is social conditioning through spreading the idea through the media. ALL media.
As much as possible.

Tests done on the fibers indicate the cells being exploded and exposed to high energy, eye witnesses and those first at the scene recall lights and warmth.

That ET would go around tagging fields of grain is ridiculous for many reasons, what is the purpose?

Intelligent beings would do a variety of other things.

The intricacy of the patterns, the mathematical (human) equations, the fibrinaci codes et all add up to human involvement.

Alien stuff would be alien, the cryptic aspects to the average person not versed in mathematics is apparent and thereby one can assume that a message is being given to physicists indicating the intelligence and knowledge of such codes and theorems.

Had they been alien and even MORE advanced or introducing something not fractal, not mathematical, perhaps a MESSAGE in text in a THOUSAND languages saying "Hello there..."

The growing complexity is indicative of particle beam weaponry, it needs to be fine tuned, tested and the crop CIRCLE story, like Roswell etc serves as a coverstory to keep us away from the truth.

Project Bluebeam and the coming ET hoax can be used as well.

Its NEW WORLD ORDER, designed to enslave us.

War from space, in your face, everywhere over the planet.

Capice?

; )

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Re: Crop Circles are just Beam Weapons being tested. Get over it!!!
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The Lorax skrev:

Sure!

Crop circles have been getting more advanced over time.

Agreed.


Crop circles were jumped apon by the mass media and eventuall "busted" so we are told by a few guys out with boards late at night, feulling time-wasting secondary arguments.

Agreed.

One up for the NWO!

You don't KNOW the NWO is behind it...do you? There are more agendas and groups in this end-of-time-party than us v.s. NWO.

The military with their space weaponry needs to test things, they cant go around blowing things up in cities, and they need to create a secondary reaction from the public (aka sociall conditioning) so that WHEN they reveal the weapons we know damn well sure that they work.

Agreed. But why make INCREDIBLE CONCEPT ART when you are trying to BLOW UP SHIT or HURT PEOPLE??? I seriously doubt that the NWO have the depth and design skills of the circlemakers, they don't operate from an abundance mentality, they operate from scarcity and fear...reptilian mindset kind of a thing... go study some circles in real depth and you will see what i am talking about. Sure, the nwo knows all about sacred geometry, but the circles are just different... compare some circles with the layout of Washington DC and you will feel the difference in energy and vibration.

The primary reason is:

Military testing, the secondary reason is social conditioning through spreading the idea through the media. ALL media.
As much as possible.

I dont buy that. I am yet to see one media being OPEN about the crop circles for more than 1 day (mistake by the newspaper, like the dutch METRO who ran a "proper mystery, we have no idea" story about a crop circle that I saw with my own eyes approx 6 hours old when I landed on Schiphol, crop circle was just outside...amazing stuff, burn marks and layered fractals inside 3 circles)... the next day it was simply a Pepsi AD!!! (not joking)... someone slapped their asses for not being congruent with normal media ways of dealing with crop circles...

--- update: Maybe this is actually what you mean by social conditioning... in that case... i still dont buy your argument... i mean YES they try to cover it up, but not for the reasons you think (NWO playing with their toys).



Tests done on the fibers indicate the cells being exploded and exposed to high energy, eye witnesses and those first at the scene recall lights and warmth.

True. Electromagnetic energy. This is not evidence of WHO is behind it. It is just evidence of electromagnetic energy being involved in the making of the circles. Remember there are at least one movie out there showing balls of light CREATING the circles...you see the crops being formed in real time. Could have been an effect of the EM energy beam but the balls of light act intelligent, not just like any energy ball coming from a beam.

That ET would go around tagging fields of grain is ridiculous for many reasons, what is the purpose?

You are using your own point of view and level of understanding to judge events. Don't do that. There are many agendas and many races and I would say all of them are more intelligent than you (and me) are. One purpose that has been argued for (with substance) is TEACHING for ELEVATING purposes. Certain circles come in sequence to make a message when put together.

Intelligent beings would do a variety of other things.

The intricacy of the patterns, the mathematical (human) equations, the fibrinaci codes et all add up to human involvement.

Not true. Neither fibonacchi code nor equations are HUMAN because humans use them. Humans DISCOVERED them but certainly did not INVENT them... go check out a sunflower and you'll get it. Mathematics is a language of NATURE and the UNIVERSE. It is UNIVERSAL so expect it to be known all over the universe...it would be a logical way to approach another race...instead of using the local alien tongue which would just sound plain weird to us...

Alien stuff would be alien, the cryptic aspects to the average person not versed in mathematics is apparent and thereby one can assume that a message is being given to physicists indicating the intelligence and knowledge of such codes and theorems.

See above. It's a logical approach...to use this language But I dont fully with your above statement... There is a logical aspect that is a proof of concept but even more important....there is an intuitive aspect to these circles. You dont have to be a physicist to get the message. A lot of it is subconscious. Females respond a lot stronger to this than males to because of how we are hardwired. This would take some time to explain, I dont have time for it right now.

Had they been alien and even MORE advanced or introducing something not fractal, not mathematical, perhaps a MESSAGE in text in a THOUSAND languages saying "Hello there..."

Well...we don't want to freak people out too much, too soon do we? You don't land spaceships on the white house lawn...the civilization would crumble in a matter of weeks... also you don't interfere with other civilizations development, at least and especially the ones who don't know they are in cosmic kindergarden.

The growing complexity is indicative of particle beam weaponry, it needs to be fine tuned, tested and the crop CIRCLE story, like Roswell etc serves as a coverstory to keep us away from the truth.

I think you are leading yourself away from the truth.

Project Bluebeam and the coming ET hoax can be used as well.

Agreed. But that is separated from the crop circles.

Its NEW WORLD ORDER, designed to enslave us.

War from space, in your face, everywhere over the planet.

Capice?

I say, bring it on... So far, everything has happened according to plan. They have already lost, but they are yet to discover how to survive what is coming.

; )


Edited by Goinghome on 2008/6/25 17:46:56
Edited by Goinghome on 2008/6/25 17:49:33
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Re: Crop Circles are just Beam Weapons being tested. Get over it!!!
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Firstly, THANKS for an intelligent reply! A rare thing unfortunately these days on this forum ; )

My replies are in ITALICS

Quote:

Goinghome skrev:
My replies are in bold.[/b




The Lorax skrev:

Sure!

Crop circles have been getting more advanced over time.

[b]Agreed.



Crop circles were jumped apon by the mass media and eventuall "busted" so we are told by a few guys out with boards late at night, feulling time-wasting secondary arguments.

Agreed.

One up for the NWO!

You don't KNOW the NWO is behind it...do you? There are more agendas and groups in this end-of-time-party than us v.s. NWO.

Perhaps, though considering the concentration of crop circles it implies a more smaller group with limited resources than say ET in a saucer at 300 x the speed of sound!

The military with their space weaponry needs to test things, they cant go around blowing things up in cities, and they need to create a secondary reaction from the public (aka sociall conditioning) so that WHEN they reveal the weapons we know damn well sure that they work.

Agreed. But why make INCREDIBLE CONCEPT ART when you are trying to BLOW UP SHIT or HURT PEOPLE??? I seriously doubt that the NWO have the depth and design skills of the circlemakers, they don't operate from an abundance mentality, they operate from scarcity and fear...reptilian mindset kind of a thing... go study some circles in real depth and you will see what i am talking about. Sure, the nwo knows all about sacred geometry, but the circles are just different... compare some circles with the layout of Washington DC and you will feel the difference in energy and vibration.

I understand your point. Have you worked with intelligence officers? I have for almost 2 years, with former english and American intelligence personnel, they were not the MOST creative, but they made up for it in a resourcefullness that is staggering, they could easily emulate equations through databases (ie internet) It doesnt take an artist or a rocket scientist to create fractals or programs with algorythms including random vaiables based on any sequence. DC was built by techs far more primative, you know that! ; )

The primary reason is:

Military testing, the secondary reason is social conditioning through spreading the idea through the media. ALL media.
As much as possible.

I dont buy that. I am yet to see one media being OPEN about the crop circles for more than 1 day (mistake by the newspaper, like the dutch METRO who ran a "proper mystery, we have no idea" story about a crop circle that I saw with my own eyes approx 6 hours old when I landed on Schiphol, crop circle was just outside...amazing stuff, burn marks and layered fractals inside 3 circles)... the next day it was simply a Pepsi AD!!! (not joking)... someone slapped their asses for not being congruent with normal media ways of dealing with crop circles...

--- update: Maybe this is actually what you mean by social conditioning... in that case... i still dont buy your argument... i mean YES they try to cover it up, but not for the reasons you think (NWO playing with their toys).



there is NO cover-up. It is a multi layered game. The intention is to use different groups playing against each other, creating rumour and confusion. One thing the globalists, the intelligence community know, that is HUAN conditioning, human reactions...whether employed by the media or not

Tests done on the fibers indicate the cells being exploded and exposed to high energy, eye witnesses and those first at the scene recall lights and warmth.

True. Electromagnetic energy. This is not evidence of WHO is behind it. It is just evidence of electromagnetic energy being involved in the making of the circles. Remember there are at least one movie out there showing balls of light CREATING the circles...you see the crops being formed in real time. Could have been an effect of the EM energy beam but the balls of light act intelligent, not just like any energy ball coming from a beam.

That ET would go around tagging fields of grain is ridiculous for many reasons, what is the purpose?

You are using your own point of view and level of understanding to judge events. Don't do that. There are many agendas and many races and I would say all of them are more intelligent than you (and me) are. One purpose that has been argued for (with substance) is TEACHING for ELEVATING purposes. Certain circles come in sequence to make a message when put together.

Show me these races and the agendas or good evidence of it, by the way go get GOD on the phone for me while you are at it! ; ) , he knows my number surely

Intelligent beings would do a variety of other things.

The intricacy of the patterns, the mathematical (human) equations, the fibrinaci codes et all add up to human involvement.

Not true. Neither fibonacchi code nor equations are HUMAN because humans use them. Humans DISCOVERED them but certainly did not INVENT them... go check out a sunflower and you'll get it. Mathematics is a language of NATURE and the UNIVERSE. It is UNIVERSAL so expect it to be known all over the universe...it would be a logical way to approach another race...instead of using the local alien tongue which would just sound plain weird to us...

It is HUMANLY universal. Try to imagine no reference to anything human, to understand ALIEN.

Webster dictionary:
Main Entry:
1alien Listen to the pronunciation of 1alien
Pronunciation:
\ˈā-lē-ən, ˈāl-yən\
Function:
adjective
Etymology:
Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin alienus, from alius
Date:
14th century

1 a: belonging or relating to another person, place, or thing : strange b: relating, belonging, or owing allegiance to another country or government : foreign c: exotic 12: differing in nature or character typically to the point of incompatibility

The last part is my point. Everything humans have done is HUMAN. Period. To assume even other earthlings like whales or dolphins think, reason or calculate anywhere near us is folly. We simply have no reference.



Alien stuff would be alien, the cryptic aspects to the average person not versed in mathematics is apparent and thereby one can assume that a message is being given to physicists indicating the intelligence and knowledge of such codes and theorems.

See above. It's a logical approach...to use this language But I dont fully with your above statement... There is a logical aspect that is a proof of concept but even more important....there is an intuitive aspect to these circles. You dont have to be a physicist to get the message. A lot of it is subconscious. Females respond a lot stronger to this than males to because of how we are hardwired. This would take some time to explain, I dont have time for it right now.

LOGIC is HUMAN, aliens may not even have our CONSIOUSNESS. Who knows? the easiest assumption, based on the fact that the military usually have technology 40 years in advance than civilian says alot about what is going on. Imagine a microwave oven idea in the 20's to the average person...


Had they been alien and even MORE advanced or introducing something not fractal, not mathematical, perhaps a MESSAGE in text in a THOUSAND languages saying "Hello there..."

Well...we don't want to freak people out too much, too soon do we? You don't land spaceships on the white house lawn...the civilization would crumble in a matter of weeks... also you don't interfere with other civilizations development, at least and especially the ones who don't know they are in cosmic kindergarden.

Thats a great example again of the common ANTHROPOMORPHISM of aliens. They are NOT human, and why should they have moral reasons like us? Even humans differ greatly in that matter. IF one were to reason that what you state is true, we could assume that a "benevolant" race of "ALIENS" would find that the BEST thing to do, because they would want to HELP us. Which they hypothetically could, but because they do not (according to the argument) they do it for our sake, just watching the slaughter, like people not stopping two dogs from ripping each other apart. The argument holds no water, as we simply put the human traits on the "alien"

The growing complexity is indicative of particle beam weaponry, it needs to be fine tuned, tested and the crop CIRCLE story, like Roswell etc serves as a coverstory to keep us away from the truth.

I think you are leading yourself away from the truth.

When cover operations are done they may have up to SEVEN levels of contingency. The CIA are very well adept at this, these people are well honed, trained and focussed. They are not normal people in the intellectual sense. Their calibre of dissemination of information defies logic as it is beyond it, they are trained since teenage years and groomed and supported and well paid.

And employed in a mulit-levelled conspiracy.


Project Bluebeam and the coming ET hoax can be used as well.

Agreed. But that is separated from the crop circles.

Its NEW WORLD ORDER, designed to enslave us.

War from space, in your face, everywhere over the planet.

Capice?

I say, bring it on... So far, everything has happened according to plan. They have already lost, but they are yet to discover how to survive what is coming.

Are you REALLY prepared? You sound confident ; ) we have always been in the middle of it, used in one way or another, in our slave - states... some place used in different ways, pitted against each other.

Show me the FUNDAMENTAL evidence of ET in this case and RULE out why particle beams or something else cannot be ruled out.

If it was ET techs it is being done by humans.

It is an intellectual endeavour, and foucussed on a multi layered Edward Bernaise styled manipulation of us.

The REASON behind them is fear, control (this comes later) curiousity and a great cover story.



; )

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Re: Crop Circles are just Beam Weapons being tested. Get over it!!!
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Quote:

The Lorax skrev:
Firstly, THANKS for an intelligent reply! A rare thing unfortunately these days on this forum ; )

Thank you.

My replies are in ITALICS

Quote:

Goinghome skrev:
My replies are in bold.[/b




The Lorax skrev:

Sure!

Crop circles have been getting more advanced over time.

[b]Agreed.



Crop circles were jumped apon by the mass media and eventuall "busted" so we are told by a few guys out with boards late at night, feulling time-wasting secondary arguments.

Agreed.


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One up for the NWO!

You don't KNOW the NWO is behind it...do you? There are more agendas and groups in this end-of-time-party than us v.s. NWO.

Perhaps, though considering the concentration of crop circles it implies a more smaller group with limited resources than say ET in a saucer at 300 x the speed of sound!

No it doesn't. How about....Who ever is doing this doesnt feel the need to tattoo the whole planet to get attention these days?

Also...eho said ET's have to use flying saucers? Who said they have to be in our dimension to do what ever it is they want to do? If you look at the research in "Crop Cirles Quest for truth" documentary you will see a plausible argument that what you see in the fields is a FOOT PRINT of something passing through our dimension. You see the waves after the boat so to speak.


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The military with their space weaponry needs to test things, they cant go around blowing things up in cities, and they need to create a secondary reaction from the public (aka sociall conditioning) so that WHEN they reveal the weapons we know damn well sure that they work.

Agreed. But why make INCREDIBLE CONCEPT ART when you are trying to BLOW UP SHIT or HURT PEOPLE??? I seriously doubt that the NWO have the depth and design skills of the circlemakers, they don't operate from an abundance mentality, they operate from scarcity and fear...reptilian mindset kind of a thing... go study some circles in real depth and you will see what i am talking about. Sure, the nwo knows all about sacred geometry, but the circles are just different... compare some circles with the layout of Washington DC and you will feel the difference in energy and vibration.

I understand your point. Have you worked with intelligence officers? I have for almost 2 years, with former english and American intelligence personnel, they were not the MOST creative, but they made up for it in a resourcefullness that is staggering, they could easily emulate equations through databases (ie internet) It doesnt take an artist or a rocket scientist to create fractals or programs with algorythms including random vaiables based on any sequence. DC was built by techs far more primative, you know that! ; )

...I think...that YES, the REAL crop circles CAN be "faked" (meaning that the makers are not who we think they are), but I think it would be counteractive to their plans as they are dealing with a new geometry that is unfolding, and some of this is shown in the crop circles...a new geometry and a new physics that will allow HUMANity to relatively simple develop free energy...and antigravity...making people soverign = very counterproductive to the NWO. I think any "faked" circles would be an attempt to blur the real message hidden in the circles. And btw it's not "just" fractals. It's not random stuff. Each circle carries a specific message. There are books out there about this.

If the NWO are putting their dirty hands into the crop circle things to confuse us, I'm sure you are right. But I don't believe they are behind the original phenomenon. You know, like revolutions, they dont come up with them...but once they are there, they try to infiltrate them to eventually control them.


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The primary reason is:

Military testing, the secondary reason is social conditioning through spreading the idea through the media. ALL media.
As much as possible.

I dont buy that. I am yet to see one media being OPEN about the crop circles for more than 1 day (mistake by the newspaper, like the dutch METRO who ran a "proper mystery, we have no idea" story about a crop circle that I saw with my own eyes approx 6 hours old when I landed on Schiphol, crop circle was just outside...amazing stuff, burn marks and layered fractals inside 3 circles)... the next day it was simply a Pepsi AD!!! (not joking)... someone slapped their asses for not being congruent with normal media ways of dealing with crop circles...

--- update: Maybe this is actually what you mean by social conditioning... in that case... i still dont buy your argument... i mean YES they try to cover it up, but not for the reasons you think (NWO playing with their toys).



there is NO cover-up. It is a multi layered game. The intention is to use different groups playing against each other, creating rumour and confusion. One thing the globalists, the intelligence community know, that is HUAN conditioning, human reactions...whether employed by the media or not

to quote richard hoagland "the lie is different at every level".

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That ET would go around tagging fields of grain is ridiculous for many reasons, what is the purpose?

You are using your own point of view and level of understanding to judge events. Don't do that. There are many agendas and many races and I would say all of them are more intelligent than you (and me) are. One purpose that has been argued for (with substance) is TEACHING for ELEVATING purposes. Certain circles come in sequence to make a message when put together.

Show me these races and the agendas or good evidence of it, by the way go get GOD on the phone for me while you are at it! ; ) , he knows my number surely

Ancient egypt is a good place to start. Ancient mesoamerica is another. The 10.000 year old vedic texts have stuff in there that really does not belong there. And so on... More and more of that gets confirmed with our modern science, "like ok really, how the fuck did they know the precice distance (within our modern telescope error ranges) to Sirius?" (could just be previously advanced people, I know...but...that ties into the extraterrestial story) I can not give you better evidence right now...(that wasnt even good enough proof...just hints that can guide you to evidence). And I don't want to get in to the reptilian stuff since I am not conviced they are that alien to us, it is plausible to me that they exist, for several reasons, but they could simply be our ancestors. Difficult one...I can't prove it and there are very few people who really can. www.projectcamelot.org has some really good "tendencies" that there is real proof out there.

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Intelligent beings would do a variety of other things.

The intricacy of the patterns, the mathematical (human) equations, the fibrinaci codes et all add up to human involvement.

Not true. Neither fibonacchi code nor equations are HUMAN because humans use them. Humans DISCOVERED them but certainly did not INVENT them... go check out a sunflower and you'll get it. Mathematics is a language of NATURE and the UNIVERSE. It is UNIVERSAL so expect it to be known all over the universe...it would be a logical way to approach another race...instead of using the local alien tongue which would just sound plain weird to us...

It is HUMANLY universal. Try to imagine no reference to anything human, to understand ALIEN.

*snip*

The last part is my point. Everything humans have done is HUMAN. Period. To assume even other earthlings like whales or dolphins think, reason or calculate anywhere near us is folly. We simply have no reference.


I get your point, but still... pi is pi, fibonacchi is fibonacchi, golden section is golden section, everywhere, to everyone in the 3D dimension who can understand it. It was here eons of time before humans ever arrived on the stage. Therefore it is not Human, it is not Alien, it just is.

It's like (for us HUMANS) waving your hand and putting on a friendly smile, no matter what language you speak, or what "smile" is called in your local tongue, every human will be able to understand it.

I do not expect us to understand what is Alien or Dolphin or Yoda. That is a different thing...


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Alien stuff would be alien, the cryptic aspects to the average person not versed in mathematics is apparent and thereby one can assume that a message is being given to physicists indicating the intelligence and knowledge of such codes and theorems.

See above. It's a logical approach...to use this language But I dont fully with your above statement... There is a logical aspect that is a proof of concept but even more important....there is an intuitive aspect to these circles. You dont have to be a physicist to get the message. A lot of it is subconscious. Females respond a lot stronger to this than males to because of how we are hardwired. This would take some time to explain, I dont have time for it right now.

LOGIC is HUMAN, aliens may not even have our CONSIOUSNESS. Who knows? the easiest assumption, based on the fact that the military usually have technology 40 years in advance than civilian says alot about what is going on. Imagine a microwave oven idea in the 20's to the average person...

"To me, all aliens seem to have LOGIC. In many descriptions of interactions and observations of Aliens, Logic is about all they seem to have...and we are having something that makes us very different...the HUMAN aspect that overrules LOGIC. Would you fall for an ad filled with subconscious programming if you were completely logic-based? Could you feel romantic love? Would you be sad for logical reasons after your best friend died?"

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Had they been alien and even MORE advanced or introducing something not fractal, not mathematical, perhaps a MESSAGE in text in a THOUSAND languages saying "Hello there..."

Well...we don't want to freak people out too much, too soon do we? You don't land spaceships on the white house lawn...the civilization would crumble in a matter of weeks... also you don't interfere with other civilizations development, at least and especially the ones who don't know they are in cosmic kindergarden.

Thats a great example again of the common ANTHROPOMORPHISM of aliens. They are NOT human, and why should they have moral reasons like us? Even humans differ greatly in that matter. IF one were to reason that what you state is true, we could assume that a "benevolant" race of "ALIENS" would find that the BEST thing to do, because they would want to HELP us. Which they hypothetically could, but because they do not (according to the argument) they do it for our sake, just watching the slaughter, like people not stopping two dogs from ripping each other apart. The argument holds no water, as we simply put the human traits on the "alien"

I agree, sorry if I wasnt clear enough, what I said apply to the benovelent races. The other fellas, who we seem to agree have some part in messing up our nice little world...they didnt INVADE us...but mankind has been so tricked that its beyond belief...we basically gave away the control of the planet to one or more races...that's not violating any galactic laws, thats just them trying to sell something and us the poor fuckers bought it hook, line and sinker...and the good guys just shake their heads and say you silly humans, how are you going to sort this mess out now?

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The growing complexity is indicative of particle beam weaponry, it needs to be fine tuned, tested and the crop CIRCLE story, like Roswell etc serves as a coverstory to keep us away from the truth.

I think you are leading yourself away from the truth.

When cover operations are done they may have up to SEVEN levels of contingency. The CIA are very well adept at this, these people are well honed, trained and focussed. They are not normal people in the intellectual sense. Their calibre of dissemination of information defies logic as it is beyond it, they are trained since teenage years and groomed and supported and well paid.

And employed in a mulit-levelled conspiracy.


If they are putting their dirty hands into the crop circle things to confuse us, I'm sure you are right. But I don't believe they are behind the original phenomenon. You know, like revolutions, they dont come up with them...but once they are there, they try to infiltrate them to eventually control them.

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Project Bluebeam and the coming ET hoax can be used as well.

Agreed. But that is separated from the crop circles.

Its NEW WORLD ORDER, designed to enslave us.

War from space, in your face, everywhere over the planet.

Capice?

I say, bring it on... So far, everything has happened according to plan. They have already lost, but they are yet to discover how to survive what is coming.

Are you REALLY prepared? You sound confident ; ) we have always been in the middle of it, used in one way or another, in our slave - states... some place used in different ways, pitted against each other.

I'm not READY as in finished, completed, locked and loaded...but I am ready for anything because I have absolutely no fear of death anymore due to near-death(out of body experiences and from smoking DMT as well as having a close relationship with someone where we do not fear losing each other due to death.).

I feel a lot more prepared than 99% of the people on this planet.

I have several options open to where I am going when things really start to cook. I know what will be important at that stage, and I know which mix of people (skills) that will be needed, I know who some of them are that I am going to go with. This is just a step of comfort by the way, it does not solve the real issue we are facing.

A lot of things I do not know and I have no way yet of knowing these things. I have strong faith that I will know them when it is time. That is how the past years of my life have developed. First came skill, then came application of the skill. I now focus on developing the skill of tuning in and being ready to react intuitively to what ever pops up in the moment, which seems to be one of the key skills to develop for the times ahead. Since the past year, telepathy is rising within my tribe as well. I have the evidence for it.

Another one is purifying your body, stop using all the different drugs and stimulants, (which is a bit odd thing to do in Amsterdam ;-P), know what to eat and know where your food , no SEEDS, are coming from.

The most important thing is within.

There is nothing outside to change.

Find your bliss, find your purpose, then follow it.


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Show me the FUNDAMENTAL evidence of ET in this case and RULE out why particle beams or something else cannot be ruled out.

I can not do that. I do believe particle beams are involved. I do not know for sure who is behind it but I seriously doubt that any humans STARTED the phenomenon, see above where I wrote about revolutions...

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If it was ET techs it is being done by humans.

Agreed. Well, the infiltration/mimicing part that is.

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It is an intellectual endeavour, and foucussed on a multi layered Edward Bernaise styled manipulation of us.

The REASON behind them is fear, control (this comes later) curiousity and a great cover story.

Intellectual implies logic. It's not a bunch of women conspiring, thats for sure. Thank you for a rewarding discussion by the way..

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Re: Crop Circles are just Beam Weapons being tested. Get over it!!!
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Som jag alltid säger då cropcirles kommer på tal är att jag har en film om detta, av matthew williams som jag mer än gärna skickar hem till dom som vill ha den.
Den handlar om personerna i fråga som gör cropcirles, hur dom gör, varför dom gör det osv osv. Mycket intresannt.
Dock säger jag inte att ALLA cirklar är gjorda på detta viset, jag säger bara att det är det troligaste.

Super duper "et" kommer från 40000 miljoner ljusår för att göra gubbar i våra fält teorin låter inte så trolig.

Men det finns rätt mycket paranormala aspekter med också.



Denna filmen låter intressant. Men förklaras det hur de mest avancerade görs? för annars har jag sett några dokumentärer om detta, men det är ju inga direkt svåra som görs.

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