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Alex Jones and Remnant Saints
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Posted on: 2006/3/26 20:44
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kollade lite in det för några dar sen och tänker kolla in lite mera snart

nedan är vad jag hittade, hittar nån nåt mer kanske?






RSICC <-> John Birch-Society ?



Below are some pieces of information I've gathered from various places on the net that about the RSICC, JBS, etc.

Is the "Remnant Saints Inter-Continental Congress" a front group, or cell of the John Birch Society, which apparently is a zionist smokescreen, which was founded by Sterling D. Allan, and others, such as Joel Skousen, "darling" of the JBS, and mormon.



The Remnant Saints Inter-Continental Congress, RSICC



Some of it's members: http://rsicc.org/Members/index.htm

Sterling D. Allan (who is also the founder of OSEN, Open Source Energy Network, the "infowars.com of "free energy")

http://rsicc.org/Members/SterlingDAllan/index.html
http://www.sterlingdallan.com/



Joel Skousen
http://rsicc.org/Members/JoelSkousen/index.html

this discussion thread between Sterling D. Allan and Allan Hampton http://pub44.bravenet.com/forum/3775468853/fetch/71724/ has the following:

"Skousen is a Constitutionalist if there ever was one. Entire organizations have been founded upon his work. He is a darling of the John Birch Society."

Archie
http://www.nolajbs.net/forum/index.php?topic=2272.msg8582#msg8582

Have not been here in a while to see how my thread developed. Thanks all for very interesting input and links. Alan Stang published on his website a letter I wrote about my experience and feelings when I had just dropped out of the JBS after being in it for one year. It had my real name and some lady from California called me and spoke at length to me about the JBS. She and her family had been loyal JBS members since the JBS began in about 1959. She knew McManus and spoke with him at various gatherings, but she said McManus was terse and rude to her on the last few events and she had become totally disillusioned with the JBS and was about to drop out. I guess she just wanted to poor her feeling out to someone and she spoke with me about one hour. Ralph Epperson also spoke with me one time about his experience with the society. He was a member for many years, even when Stang was their top writer, and Ralph was on their speaker's bureau. But they expelled him from the JBS when he mentioned Freemasonry in one of his speeches somewhere. The JBS strongly does not want Freemasonry mentioned, and I assume that is because Mormonism is a religion based upon Freemasonry. Joel Skousen (www.WorldAffairsBrief.com) also is a Mormon and never says anything about Freemasonry and indeed, often presents himself in his radio guest shots as a Christian.





Alex Jones Infowars.com (honorary member)
http://rsicc.org/Members/AlexJones/index.html

Leonard G. Horowitz, President/Publisher, Tetrahedron Publishing Group (honorary member)

John Birch Society

http://watch.pair.com/jbs-cnp.html

"...In the long march toward a new social order, ultra-right and left-wing agitation propaganda serve not only to polarize and destabilize society, they create a diversionary conflict to prevent recognition of the true conspiracy. Lest an informed and united citizenry form an alliance against them, principles of conflict management are employed by the power elites:..."

"The plan, I think, is the old one of world dominion in a new form. The money-power and revolutionary power have been set up and given sham but symbolic shapes ('Capitalism' or 'Communism') and sharply defined citadels ('America' or 'Russia'). Such is the spectacle publicly staged for the masses. But what if similar men, with a common aim, secretly rule in both camps and propose to achieve their ambition through the clash between those masses? I believe any diligent student of our times will discover that this is the case. -- Douglas Reed" 4.








http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=John_Birch_Society

"...JBS's objective was to fight communism using communism's own techniques -- organization of front groups, infiltration of other groups and letter-writing campaigns..."

"...The Birch Society was organized into cells, imitating Welch's understanding of Communist organizing techniques. "This cell segregation is aimed at preventing infiltration by the 'Communists' or other groups seeking inside information about the society," the Times reported. "Ernest Brosang, the New Jersey regional coordinator, contends that it is virtually impossible for opponents of the society to penetrate its policy-making levels...."



http://judicial-inc.biz/Klassen.htm

John Birch Society -- which is now known as a "smokescreen for the Jews".





The John Birch Society -- Exposed!

"Professor Revilo Oliver (now deceased), was a founding member of the John Birch Society (JBS) along with 11 others. He was associate editor of its major periodical, American Opinion, (later becoming The New American). Professor Oliver later discovered, to his horror, that the JBS was in fact a covert front for Zionist Jews..."





And to further drive this quote, see Behind The Attacks on The John Birch Society at http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur56.htm.

The words of John F. McManus:

"When given a chance, Birch Society members would ask: How could the Society be anti-Semitic when its original national Council, formed in December 1959, had among its members a prominent New York City (Zionist Jew named Alfred Kohlberg?" ... "In many communities across America, a charge that the John Birch Society harbors anti-Semitism has brought a prompt refutation from a Jewish member or a Jewish supporter who had done his own investigation."



http://www.nolajbs.net/forum/index.php?topic=2272.msg8582#msg8582



Archie: "...Just thought I would report a radio show I listened to on the Internet last Monday, I think, on GCNlive.com (stream 2) RadioLiberty show hosted by Dr. Stan Monteith. The show of Dec. 27 was at 5:00 p.m. central time and was technically a strictly Genesis network show. (The immediate subsequent hour show by Dr. Stan is also on Genesis but it is technically his own RadioLiberty show that Genesis happens to broadcast. (Maybe somebody here subscribes to their audio archived shows and can listen or download it.)

Anyway, John McMannus who is the president of the John Birch Society was the guest. A caller in to the show said he had read a large amount of the JBS materials but he asked Mr. McMannus why there was never and not one mention of "Zionism" in any of the John Birch Society written material. Mr. McManus replied that he and the JBS regarded Zionism as one very real factor that is contributing to the establishment of one world government, but that the JBS regards the CFR and the Trilaterals as the majorly important factors.

Dr. Stan's tone became somewhat defensive and he asked the caller something like...

'If the US government and all of its leaders are so Zionist and so pro-Israel why did the leaders of the US government put such strong pressure on Israel to evacuate the West Bank as Israel recently did?

The caller, who seemed sincere and well meaning to me, was somewhat at a loss to reply to this question but he said something like everything is a big deception.

Dr. Stan used to be close friends many years ago with Robert Welch and I think Dr. Stan must have been in the JBS years ago but he had some kind of parting of the ways with the JBS philosophy when he starting understanding what Carroll Quiqley had written in Tragedy and Hope book - that is, that there are foolish right wingers in the US who think "Communism" is the main culprit of the conspiracy. Professor Quiqley said it was a group of "business interests" who send donations to and control both sides of the false left/right conservative/liberal political spectrum.


"Anyway, John McMannus who is the president of the John Birch Society was the guest. A caller in to the show said he had read a large amount of the JBS materials but he asked Mr. McMannus why there was never and not one mention of "Zionism" in any of the John Birch Society written material. Mr. McManus replied that he and the JBS regarded Zionism as one very real factor that is contributing to the establishment of one world government, but that the JBS regards the CFR and the Trilaterals as the majorly important factors...

"...Not only will the JBS never say a single word about Zionism, it will also never say a negative word about Freemasonry. It used to write positive things about Freemasonry but now simply carefully says nothing at all about Freemasonry...."



McMannus was playing politics in the interview. The JBS does not regard Zionism as "one very real factor that is contributing to the establishment of one world government." In fact, when I Birched, I was told to "stay away" from the topic and "those people." The only thing the JBS is worried about is making PaytriotsTM out of Patriots.

In an e-mail dated July 15th 2005, Mr. Armstrong, Regional Field Director of the John Birch Society, aligned the "Jewish conspiracy" to the "shape-changing reptilian conspiracy" to downplay Zionism. Their TRIM Bulletins never exhibit the billions going to Israel. The JBS could be a great organization, but the lack of interest in assessing information analytically, objectively, and scholarly exemplifies that they are a false flag operation to control the opposition. I was very disappointed in the organization; even more so with the relationships I have built.................<snip>





NOLAJBS"...McMannus was playing politics in the interview. The JBS does not regard Zionism as "one very real factor that is contributing to the establishment of one world government." In fact, when I Birched, I was told to "stay away" from the topic and "those people." The only thing the JBS is worried about is making PaytriotsTM out of Patriots.

In an e-mail dated July 15th 2005, Mr. Armstrong, Regional Field Director of the John Birch Society, aligned the "Jewish conspiracy" to the "shape-changing reptilian conspiracy" to downplay Zionism. Their TRIM Bulletins never exhibit the billions going to Israel. The JBS could be a great organization, but the lack of interest in assessing information analytically, objectively, and scholarly exemplifies that they are a false flag operation to control the opposition. I was very disappointed in the organization; even more so with the relationships I have built...."



Is the Birch Society a Zionist Front?

http://iresist.com/cbg/rockefeller.html

Eustice Mullins notes:
The Rockefellers were also active on the "right-wing" front through their sponsorship of the John Birch Society . To enable Robert Welch, a 32nd degree Mason, to devote all of his time to the John Birch Society, Nelson Rockefeller purchased his family firm, the Welch Candy Company, from him at a handsome price. Welch chose the principal officers of the John Birch Society from his acquaintances at the Council On Foreign Relations . For years afterwards, American patriots were puzzled by the consistent inability of the John Birch Society to move forward on any of its well-advertised "anti-Communist" goals . The fact that the society had been setup at the behest of the backers of the world Communist revolution may have played some role in this development .







Posted on: 2006/3/27 10:39
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Re: Alex Jones and Remnant Saints
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Jag skickade just nu ett email to Alex Jones och frågade om det var sant att han är medlem i Remnant Saints.
Meddelar er så fort han svarar - om han svarar.


Posted on: 2006/3/27 10:45
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Posted on: 2006/3/27 11:07
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Inget svar ännu. Tror han siktar på att bli USAs nästa president.
Jag har inget förtroende för honom. Han är genomskådad. Hoppas fler kommer till insikt innan det är för sent och helvetet börjar om igen.

Här är lite mer information från kritiskt granskande

http://houston.indymedia.org/news/2004/11/35190.php


Posted on: 2006/3/28 9:41
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Alex Jones, has always been a jesus freak in the public light.

He has his OWN agenda, and am not surprised by his association.

He BELIEVES in god. He is christian. Human. Male.
He has his values.

I, on the otherhand will fight to see a world free of religion, and challenge mr Jones to get the All-powerful, all-seeing knowing god on the phone to me.
God can do anything. If he exists at all, Mr Jones. ; )

I would like a vegan organic world to begin with, something that mirros my values.

Good Luck to ALex and his mission, on the way we can help each other in enlightening people about other nast stuff.

Would you buy a used car from him? ; )


Posted on: 2006/3/28 12:57
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var det inte någon som sa: man blir vad man bekämpar.
?

Posted on: 2006/3/28 13:20
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vad är det för SNACK!?

han är ju honorary member - hedersmedlem - det betyder således inte att han är en aktiv medlem. visst baserar han sitt liv på kristna grunder, men vad är det för fel på det då? det är ju inte så att han gör som alla neo-cons; hädar islam och lyfter fram israeler som änglar, och påstår sig vara en god kristen (såsom Bush och hans sionistadministration).

en sann kristen älskar alla människor oavsett bakgrund och social status. jag är själv inte troende men jag respekterar religion.
av min erfarenhet när det gäller just herr Jones, är att han kämpa mer än alla på vaken.se tillsammans för en bättre värld.

jag uppmanar alla som tvivlar på honom, att lyssna på Alex Jones radioprogram och försöka "lära känna honom", läs även infowars.com + prisonplanet.com - det är ju DÄR man får en bild av vad han försöka kämpa för.

/anti

Posted on: 2006/3/28 14:37
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vet inget om det här med hans religiösa del.. men många tycker ju inte om honom för att han i vissa tillfällen framställer sig själv som en ledare för revolutionen, så går mycket snack på andra forum.
Jag tycker att det han gör är självklart bra! men jag vet för lite för att uttala mig om honom.

Posted on: 2006/3/28 15:36
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ja men varför säger du då; man blir vad man bekämpar?
rent löjligt påstående! om du ursäktar...

hur som helst - han ÄR ju ledaren för 9/11-rörelsen - han satt flera månader före självaste 11:e september och uppmanade folk att ringa till vita huset m.m för att stoppa attackerna! DÅ visste han ju ingenting om den amerikanska statens deltagande, men han kodade av media och diverse källor som att det skulle ske attacker på nedre Manhattan. så jag skulle visst kalla honom för ledaren för 9/11-rörelsen. hur som helst är vi många som NU avslöjar de lögner och förädare runt om i världen. det spelar INGEN roll vem 'ledaren' är, men fakta kvarstår att det var Alex Jones som flera månader i förväg varnade folket. ska försöka hitta videon där man får se Alex i sitt esse, återkommer i denna tråden.

Posted on: 2006/3/28 16:14
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Anti har en bra poång.

Alex är ju en av dom som varit först i Kritiken av Bush-administrationen redan innan 911, och varnade vad som var på gång.

Själv har jag i tidigare tråd undrat om Alex blivit köpt ?
jag TROR inte det.

Wing TV tog bla upp dett för någon månad sedan när Alex sålt en Artikel till CNN .

Man får hoppas att Alex är en " taktisk slipad " person och att han vet vad han gör. Det kan ju varit för att köpa tid, han har ju blivit mordhotat ett antal gånger , enligt honom sj'älv.






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jag tror herr Jones är en "taktiskt slipad" person. han är ju inte dum... genom att få ut sitt namn i media kommer folk kolla upp honom och därmed få nys om infowars.com et cetera, vilket på sikt är ju en BRA sak. visst, han kommer sälja en del extra DVD's och kanske värva fler medlemmar till prisonplanet.tv, men SO WHAT!? det är bara i Sverige som det är FULT att tjäna pengar. kommuniststat - tvi! man måste komma ihåg att ett (informations)krig kostar faktiskt pengar! det går inte att fråkomma detta faktum. har lyssnat och analyserat Alex Jones i lite mer än 2 år nu och är helt övertygad om att han är på "vår" sida.

Posted on: 2006/3/28 18:08
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tss nej så allvarligt var inte påståendet ..det var neutralt , jag som sagt vet inget om honom personligen bara hans filmer och informationen han sprider.
Det var hans filmer jag såg först. Utan dem hade jag troligtvist inte vaknat så tidigt, så jag är positiv till honom. förmedlade bara vad som sägs på andra nwo forum.
Jag har nyligen igår försvarat honom på nwowatcher.com.

Flera tycker där att han driver folk i fel rikning mot konflikt istället för att tala om zionism och de ockulta religiösa grupper som styr vår värld.
jag svarade :
Quote:

whats the big fuzz, its great.. what hes gonna talk about Ufo's as well? iam not all into him and i dont know everything hes been up to, but atleast he got some CNN time, and cheen started a poll with 84% says they believe in charlie sheens argument. on CNN !.
people are not ready for everything, sure i understand what u guys mean, people missing the bigpicture and heading towards conflict.. but thats a huge step starting to talk about zionism religious konspirations, people still think fire coused building 7 to fall.
but anyway they made some progress, as this was highlighted in news all around the world, like in sweden we got 911 discussed again and were able to wake new people to join the fight.



sorry om jag gjorde ett dåligt uttalande.

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BiReal skrev:
vet inget om det här med hans religiösa del.. men många tycker ju inte om honom för att han i vissa tillfällen framställer sig själv som en ledare för revolutionen, så går mycket snack på andra forum.
Jag tycker att det han gör är självklart bra! men jag vet för lite för att uttala mig om honom.



Really?

Show me some examples then . ; )

We need to stop bitching about our SMALL differences, and unite ourselves for a common future. Who gives a fuck about his beliefs really?

He has and is doing alot, as are the DOZENS of people involved in theCHRISTIAN based sites like Prisonplanet.

At least he is out there SAYING and doing something, unlike alot of people....

Posted on: 2006/3/28 19:50
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