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Vad tror ni om Libertas?
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Det ägnades mycket tid att smutskasta liberats som bidrog till att irländarna röstade nej till Lissabonfördraget. Nu planerar de att ställa upp i alla EU-länder till EU-valet, de ställer även upp i Sverige, vad tror ni om dem? Infon på deras hemsida låter intressant.

http://www.libertas.eu

"Libertas is a pan-European political movement dedicated to creating a new, democratic, accountable and open European Union.

We believe that the European Union has limitless potential. We believe that by working together, Europeans can translate shared values into an ambitious vision that lights up the next century of human history. Europe does not work together at this time. It is divided into an elite holding all the power, and the rest, who are critical, but powerless. We want to transform that widespread criticism, harness the power that motivates it and change Europe.

Looking at the European project today, we see a body without heart, an idea without soul. We believe that until control of our shared destiny is wrenched back from unaccountable elites in Brussels and that until all of the citizens of Europe are given a say in its direction, Europe will never fulfill its extraordinary potential.

Some of those who exercise power look at the problems we face in Europe, and say that the solution is always to give them ever more of our sovereign power and resources. This is what they have done with a succession of Treaties modifying and increasing their control. It goes to an unelected elite, so that they can solve our problems for us.

We say that the solutions lie with people, with the individual, with families and within communities and that by progressively empowering the citizen, we can overcome any challenge.

We believe that the time has now come for the people of Europe to speak with one voice based on a democratic mandate. The vote of the people in Europe must represent the vote of the people of Europe.

We say that change in Europe is possible, that there is a better and more democratic way. It is time for us ordinary citizens of Europe to speak clearly and with authority to challenge those who would stifle and ignore the voice of the people.

To those who would make democracy in Europe a mere hollow shell, crushed, lifeless on the inside, providing a mere echo chamber for those elites that presume to know best and seek to exercise power without accountability, We say: It is time for Europe to demand change and declare to say: "No, there is a better way". It is time to reject overbearing bureaucracy and put democracy back at the very centre of Europe's vision. It is time for the people of Europe to build a better Union.

This is Libertas' promise and its demand. Join us, give us your support and Libertas will give you the referendum on the anti-democratic Lisbon Treaty that the Brussels elites have conspired to deny you. In so doing we will give you the opportunity to say yes or no to the current status quo. This will provide you with an altogether more ambitious and enterprising choice.

We will return power to where it belongs, to the people.

We recognise that it is you, the citizen that must ultimately decide what powers Brussels should or should not have, and under what conditions that power should be exercised.

For Europe to build a true and successful Union, that Union must include and involve you. The conditions must be subject to you. They must respect your identity and culture. They must unite you, on your terms, in a vision that inspires and motivates and answers to you the people. A Union gaining its legitimacy and vitality from the hundreds of millions of individuals that are Europe's people, through a system of governance that is subject to the people rather than to an elite that governs itself.

We believe that Europe, her nations, her people, have come to a crossroads. We believe that we must all ask ourselves if democracy really matters to us as Europeans. We must therefore ask ourselves if Brussels is the solution, or do we believe that an increasingly anti-democratic overbearing Brussels is the problem and indeed represents the greatest risk to the success of the European Union?

Do we believe that endless directives are the way to confront the challenges of the age? Or do we believe that the ingenuity, faith, energy and reason of almost 500 million citizens will allow us to view the future with renewed optimism?

Libertas stands for individual freedom, democracy, and a culture embracing life. We stand for tolerance and for the belief that every citizen has rights and limitless potential.

All of these questions have been asked before. The criticisms are widespread and contain a universal frustration at the way power has been centralised. But this is the first time that a political movement has been brought before you with a dedicated and determined focus of change and reform. We seek to transcend the faults in Europe's elitist government and give it back to the people.

We, Libertas, stand for a new vision. We stand for freedom, for a strong and democratic Europe. We stand for you, all the people of Europe."

Posted on: 2009/3/3 19:08
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Re: Vad tror ni om Libertas?
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De har fått en stor del av sina pengar från Declan Ganley.

Så här står det om honom på Wikipedia:

Ganley is currently chairman and CEO of Rivada Networks,[3] a US defence contractor specializing in military telecommunications systems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declan_Ganley

Gick också ett intressant inslag om Libertas på Studio Ett idag.
http://www.sr.se/webbradio/?Type=db&Id=1628941

Deras parti behöver som synes undersökas lite mer noggrant anser jag.

Posted on: 2009/3/3 21:32
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Re: Vad tror ni om Libertas?
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Frihetskrigare: Jo, men deras motstånd till Lissabonfördraget och eliten i Bryssel är intressant. Sedan att de vill ha kvar EU kan man ju diskutera om det är bra eller ej, ett samarbeta behöver inte vara dåligt men som EU styrs idag så stinker det rejält. Det du nämnde är precis den den typ av smutskastning som libertas utsatts för, wikipedia lär inte heller vara på deras sida. Att en rik irländare är sitter i en styrelse som råkar syssla med militär teknologi förvånar inte mig, SAAB och Ericsson är väl inte mycket bättre, men betyder det att han inte vill bekämpa EU-eliten?

Om de verkligen står för vad de säger så värnar de om individens rättigheter och vill inte att eliten i Bryssel ska styra Europa. Ord betyder inte alltid mycket, men vad är deras syfte om de säger sig bekämpa eliten och Lissabonfördraget, ett sätt att stjäla tid och energi från de som vill bekämpa Lissabonfördraget och så byter de seden ståndpunkt? Vem vet, någon som undersökt organisationen närmare?

Posted on: 2009/3/3 21:54
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Re: Vad tror ni om Libertas?
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Är Libertas EN myndighet, företag eller förening, med retroaktivt strikt produktansvar för resurser som producerat resultat lokalt på den inre gemensamma marknaden?

Posted on: 2009/3/12 21:16
Värderar, värdesäkrar och väljer mentalt och fysiskt i nutid och nära framtid, produkt av humana resurser, med STRIKT produktansvar för producerat resultat med säkerhetsbrist i nutid, nära framtid (10 år) och rum, lokalt i en medlemsstat på den inre ma...
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