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Det verkar som om "bailouten" åtminstone blir något försenad. Främst republikanerna röstade emot, men USA:s system är komplicerat, kanske den kan gå igenom ändå i en eller annat form. Om bailouten fick nej, kanske de kan passa på att återkalla Federal Reserve Act :)

"It looks like it has failed!!!! 206-227, with only one Republican vote not counted.

Democrats: 141-94
Republicans: 65-133

Why is the vote still on, time has run out!?"

"Not, it hasn’t failed yet. The speaker has not called the vote to a close and votes are gradually switching. It’s currently at 207-226 against. It isn’t over till the gavel comes down, regardless of the timer."

"This is only round 1, they are going to twist a lot of arms, but we can stop them.

Help get this to the front page on Digg!

http://nowallstreetbailout.com/why2.php

They’re going to have to go back to the drawing board now, let’s get the many downfalls into the people’s hands so they can push their members of Congress to continue to vote Nay."

"They can change their votes up until the time has expired, however since they suspended the rules anyway, they could possibly have another trick up their sleeves.

But, since this was a Senate Amendment, if it does fail the house, there will have to be another process."
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=644#comments

Posted on: 2008/9/29 18:04
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Verkar ha blivit nej.

Kongressen sa nej till räddningsplanen
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=3130&a=834108

"President George W Bush försökte på måndagen få kongressen att rösta ja till Vita husets räddningsplan på 700 miljarder dollar. Men strax före klockan 20 stod det klart att en majoritet hade röstat nej med 226 mot 207."

Posted on: 2008/9/29 18:10
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Jag önskar inte andra människor otur och olycka. Men det kanske är bra om detta pengarspel (som innehåller lika mycket spekulation som exempelvis poker) får ett slut.

Med dagens teknik skulle vi kunna sära på pengarspel och utbyte av arbete/tjänster, dvs sära på nytta och nöje. Sajter såsom spelalagom.se skulle kanske utvidgas till att hjälpa exempelvis aktiesparare som nu börjar förlora på sitt spelande eller varför inte bankmän som nu har lånat ut för mycket i "bankspelet" och är i riskzonen.

Så med detta som bakgrund hoppas jag att det krashar. Då kommer iaf vår generation att fundera på en eventuell förbättring av vårt ekonomiska system. Hoppas vi får fler examensarbeten och rapporter som utforskar nya sätt att hantera handel av varor och tjänster utan spekulation och andra typer av pengarspel. För det hade varit häftigt om vi helt lyckades separera nöje (spel i alla former med eller utan pengar) från riktigt arbete och höja statusen för riktigt arbete till den nivån det borde ha.

Minns nämligen att jag hört "det är mer accepterat att spela ihop en miljon än att arbeta ihop den"... Vilket är helt stört i sig... Tror att detta citat beskriver nutidens kultur mycket bättre än andra försök och det gör mig lite ledsen.

Posted on: 2008/9/29 18:33
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Detta leder nog endast till en ändring av taktik från makteliten och Federal Reserve.

Fed makes billions available to battle crisis
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080929/fed_credit_crisis.html

"Under one new step, the Fed will boost the amount of 84-day cash loans available to U.S. banks. The Fed is increasing the amount to $75 billion, up from the current $25 billion starting on Oct. 6. Banks bid on a slice of the loans at an auction.

That move will triple the supply of 84-day loans to $225 billion, from $75 billion, the Fed said.

Meanwhile, the Fed will continue to make $75 billion worth of shorter, 28-day loans available to banks.

All told, the total amount of cash loans -- 84-day and 28-day -- available to banks will double to $300 billion from $150 billion, the Fed said."

Posted on: 2008/9/29 18:36
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"vårt ekonomiska system"???

Det har nog aldrig varit vårt.
Det begriper jag allt klarare ju mer jag läser.

Och glöm dom 700 miljarderna - det är en summa tagen ur luften, inte empirism.
Symboliserar bara ändlösheten.
Unlimited amounts.

USA är inte ett land, en nation.
Det är ett privat företag, ägt och kontrollerat av The Royal Crown, City of London, så vitt jag kan förstå.

F**k "vårt" ekonomiska system.
Mitt har det då aldrig varit.

Nu fattar jag.
Till och med på ytan helt behjärtansvärda saker som kvinnornas emancipation handlar om detta.
Att uppbära skatt av den dittills obeskattade befolkningen.

Man måste inte vara Einstein för att inse att ränta leder all rikedom uppåt i längden.
Ännu ett skäl att bekriga Koranen..?

Jag tappar fan bort mej bland alla deceptions within the deception men, herrar Rothschild och Rockefeller gnuggar säkert händerna i kapp med drottning Elizardbeth.

Alla kosmiska goda krafter hjälpe oss alla.
Samtidigt luktar det chans till Uppvaknandet för många, många människor.

Säkert troublesome times ahead, men just nu känns det ändå skitbra att inte äga något. Fråga mej igen om/när käket tar slut :)

Vive la Resistance!
Perkele!

Posted on: 2008/9/29 19:33
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Det är en del "diggat" kring detta räddningspaket: http://digg.com/all/popular/24hours

Det börjar verkligen hända saker nu vilket verkar fått många att ifrågasätta av vad det är som händer. Man har hört från flera håll som kan det dära med planeter och sa i våras att i september går vi in i en tid när planeten (Inte längre planet enligt bestämmelserna) Pluto är i visst läge vilket visar aggressivitet i agendan samt att fler och fler börjar vakna.

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Dagen efter..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGpS2qsh_5A

http://supportedthebailout.org has the blow-by-blow.


Bottom line: We won round one, but this is NOT OVER, and we MUST NOT LET THIS BILL PASS.


Yes, we need a bill. But not THIS bill, in any form.


Most importantly - Bernanke proved IT WON'T WORK today. See inside - then pass this around - this must get WIDE viewing.

Posted on: 2008/9/30 7:31
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Hm, medierna i Sverige och deras experter verkar inte vilja förklara vad detta handlar om. De verkar fortfarande köra linjen att den här "bailouten" är räddningen för vår ekonomi. Obehagligt.

Posted on: 2008/9/30 8:01
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Fahrenheit451 skrev:
Hm, medierna i Sverige och deras experter verkar inte vilja förklara vad detta handlar om. De verkar fortfarande köra linjen att den här "bailouten" är räddningen för vår ekonomi. Obehagligt.


Det kommer insändare i varenda lokaltidning om detta, så passa på att besvara dem om ni har chansen, visa vad experterna missar.

Posted on: 2008/9/30 8:15
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gaston skrev:
Quote:

Fahrenheit451 skrev:
Hm, medierna i Sverige och deras experter verkar inte vilja förklara vad detta handlar om. De verkar fortfarande köra linjen att den här "bailouten" är räddningen för vår ekonomi. Obehagligt.


Det kommer insändare i varenda lokaltidning om detta, så passa på att besvara dem om ni har chansen, visa vad experterna missar.


En annan störande sak är att de bilder de slänger upp tycks inte vara på demonstranterna utan på de få "spelare" som är oroliga på att folket inte ska offra sig för dem.

Posted on: 2008/9/30 8:23
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Jepp men bilder saknas inte....

AMERICA WE ARE BEING HIJACKED: DID THEY SHOW THIS ON TV didn't even mention it!
....
Hundreds of protestors demonstrated against the proposed $700 Billion bail out plan for the finance and banking industry, yet the national news media in America didn't even report it! WHY NOT? It seems strange that this barely generated a gander from the big news outlets like ABC, CNN, CBS, NBC etc. all of whom have a presence in New York City.
Despite having such a large protest event occurring in their backyard, the major news media chose not to tell the American people about it

WALL ST BAILOUT PROTEST SEPT 25, 2008 NYC




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePdl-pHZUo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j0C42-F-Xs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEWvegDAtkQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USpsjif5l8A

Posted on: 2008/9/30 8:29
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Alex Jones Tv:"alex goes crazy"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaBwCodQfQE

Posted on: 2008/9/30 9:51
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The BAILOUT FAILED - BUT FED PUMPS 630 BILLION IN ANYWAY???


Fed Pumps Further $630 Billion Into Financial System (Update3)

By Scott Lanman and Craig Torres
Sept. 29 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve will pump an additional $630 billion into the global financial system, flooding banks with cash to alleviate the worst banking crisis since the Great Depression.


The Fed increased its existing currency swaps with foreign central banks by $330 billion More..to $620 billion to make more dollars available worldwide. The Term Auction Facility, the Fed's emergency loan program, will expand by $300 billion to $450 billion. The European Central Bank, the Bank of England and the Bank of Japan are among the participating authorities.


The Fed's expansion of liquidity, the biggest since credit markets seized up last year, came hours before the U.S. House of Representatives rejected a $700 billion bailout for the financial industry. The crisis is reverberating through the global economy, causing stocks to plunge and forcing European governments to rescue four banks over the past two days alone.


....Today's blast of term liquidity will settle the funding markets down, and allow trust to slowly be restored between borrowers and lenders,'' said Chris Rupkey, chief financial economist at Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ Ltd. in New York. On the other hand, ....the Fed's balance sheet is about to explode.
''

The MSCI World Index of stocks in 23 developed markets sank 6 percent, the most since its creation in 1970. Credit markets deteriorated further as authorities tried to save more financial institutions from collapse.


European Rescue

European governments have rescued four banks in two days and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. said today it helped Citigroup Inc. buy the banking operations of Wachovia Corp. after its shares collapsed. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index fell 3.8 percent and the cost of borrowing dollars for three months rose to the highest since January. The rate for euros hit a record.


....If people think the authorities may give in to fears, they are wrong,'' Financial Stability Forum Chairman Mario Draghi said today in Amsterdam, where the international group of regulators and finance officials is meeting. ....There is willingness and determination on winning the battle to restore confidence and stability.
''

Banks and brokers have slowed lending as they struggle to restore their capital after $586 billion in credit losses and writedowns since the mortgage crisis began a year ago. The bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. also sparked fears among banks they wouldn't be repaid by counterparties, driving up the cost of short-term loans between banks.


Funding Risk

....By committing to provide a very large quantity of term funding, the Federal Reserve actions should reassure financial market participants that financing will be available against good collateral, lessening concerns about funding and rollover risk,'' the central bank said.


The Bank of England and the ECB will each double the size of their dollar swap facilities with the Fed to as much as $80 billion and $240 billion, respectively. The Swiss National Bank and the Bank of Japan will also double their dollar swap lines, while the central banks in Australia, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Canada tripled theirs.


All the banks extended their facilities until the end of April 2009.


The Fed is also increasing the size of its three 84-day TAF sales to $75 billion apiece, from $25 billion. That means the Fed will make a total of $225 billion available in 84-day loans. The central bank will keep the sales of 28-day credit at $75 billion.


Special Sales

In addition, the Fed will hold two special TAF sales in November totaling $150 billion so banks can have funding available for one or two weeks over year-end. The exact timing and terms will be determined later, the Fed said. The TAF program began in December, totaling $40 billion.


The bank-rescue plan being debated by Congress today would give the Fed more power over short-term interest rates by providing authority as of Oct. 1 to pay interest on reserves held at the central bank by financial institutions. That would make it easier for the Fed to pump funds into the banking system.


Paying interest on reserves puts a ....floor'' under the traded overnight rate, which would allow a central bank ....to provide liquidity during times of stress'' without affecting the rate, New York Fed economists said in a paper last month.


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pi ... z_k5JvuB8&refer=worldwide

Posted on: 2008/9/30 13:16
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Senaten röstade för en bailout på 700 miljarder dollar.

Analys av LaRouche:
No Bailout ! "They Will Kill You !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd5uaScAUSQ

"What the Americans will do to those, who try to push a dictatorship down their throats. "

Posted on: 2008/10/2 11:04
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jin83 skrev:
Senaten röstade för en bailout på 700 miljarder dollar.

Analys av LaRouche:
No Bailout ! "They Will Kill You !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd5uaScAUSQ

"What the Americans will do to those, who try to push a dictatorship down their throats. "


Jepp kan vara bra att styrka upp med denna

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2502830637471895940

( OT För att stryka under vad vaken.se står för, eftersom kampen just förs mot NWO agendan, med detta faller anklagelserna om att vaken.se skulle vara NAZIvänlig.
ber om ursäkt att jag inte höll mig till regeln)

Posted on: 2008/10/2 11:14
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1 of 5 Alex Jones Infowars Anthony J Hilder 09-24-08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEEOtXY9b1M

Posted on: 2008/10/2 13:18
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Nytt från c-span lyssna vid 43 sek...utpressning????



http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library ... 22992417&e=1222993317&n=1

Posted on: 2008/10/3 7:25
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The 9/11 Connection to the Wall Street Bailout

What computerized accounting fraud can take away
and airplanes flying into buildings can cover up

Crimes Against Reality

The two key pieces of information that Treasury Secretary Snow gave us were that the Equity Markets collapsed in 2000 and that $7 TRILLION dollars was taken out of the economy...

At the end of this excerpt, Snow repeats a question that world finance and economic leaders ask him...

"How could it be that the American economy has weathered all these storms the way it has and continued even in the face of these extraordinary headwinds to continue to move to job creation, higher levels of growth and now of course, leading the recovery in the world economy?"

The answer is that it couldn't. When the Equity Markets collapsed, the economy of the United States collapsed..


http://www.channelingreality.com/The_ ... rimes_Against_Reality.htm




http://www.corbettreport.com/

The Corbett Report has created a new video explaining why people should be angry about more than just the proposed $700 billion bailout of Wall Street- There is much more to this crisis than what the controlled corporate media is telling you- What about the $2.
3 trillion missing from the Pentagon the day before September 11, 2001, when the Pentagon’s Budget Analyst Office was destroyed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM79QpaxvOs

Posted on: 2008/10/3 8:25
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House passes $700B Wall Street bailout

By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS AND DAVID ESPO

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/381680_bailout04.html

After a week of tumult, an unprecedented $700 billion government bailout of the financial industry passed the U.S. House of Representatives on Friday.


With the election-year economy showing fresh signs of weakness on several fronts, the measure advanced past a key hurdle on a 263-171 vote.


An Associated Press tally showed 29 lawmakers who sent an earlier bailout bill to unexpected defeat on Monday had changed their minds and would vote in favor of the revised legislation, far more than the dozen needed. Officials said changes made to the measure had sparked a far smaller number of defections among previous supporters.


"I'm optimistic about today. We're not going to take anything for granted but it's time to act," said House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio.


"I think it will pass," agreed Rep. Jim Clyburn, the chief Democratic vote-counter, as debate unfolded in the House chamber.


On Wall Street, stocks surged ahead of the vote as the Dow Jones industrial average rose nearly 150 points.


The Senate passed the measure earlier in the week on a bipartisan vote of 74-25, and Bush has repeatedly urged Congress to send the bailout to him swiftly to prevent even further economic deterioration.


"No matter what we do or what we pass, there are still tough times out there. People are mad -- I'm mad," said Republican Rep. J. Gresham Barrett of South Carolina, who opposed the measure the first time it came to a vote. Now, he said, "We have to act. We have to act now.
"

Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., another convert, said, "I have decided that the cost of doing nothing is greater than the cost of doing something.
"

Critics were unrelenting.


"How can we have capitalism on the way up and socialism on the way down," said Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas, a leader among conservative Republicans who oppose the central thrust of the legislation -- an unprecedented federal intervention into the private capital markets.


It was little more than two weeks ago that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke concluded that the economy was in such danger that a massive government intervention in the private markets was essential.


The core of the plan remains little changed from its inception -- the Treasury Department would have $700 billion at its disposal to purchase bad mortgage-related securities that are weighing down the balance sheets of institutions that hold them. The flow of credit has slowed, in some cases drying up, threatening the ability of businesses to conduct routine operations or expand.


At the same time, lawmakers have dramatically changed the measure, insisting on greater congressional supervision over the $700 billion, taking measures to protect taxpayers, and insisting on steps to crack down on so-called "golden parachutes" that go to corporate executives whose companies fail.


Earlier in the week, the legislation was altered to expand the federal insurance program for individual bank deposits, and the Securities and Exchange Commission took steps to ease the impact of the questionable mortgage-backed securities on financial institutions.


In the moments before the vote, Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, pledged "serious surgery" next year to address the underlying causes of the crisis.


If anything, the economic news added to the sense of urgency.


The Labor Department said initial claims for jobless benefits had increased last week to the highest level since the gloomy days after the 2001 terror attacks. Employers slashed 159,000 jobs from their payrolls, the most in five years. That came on top of Thursday's Commerce Department report that factory orders in August plunged by 4 percent.


Typifying arguments the problem no longer is just a Wall Street issue but also one for Main Street, lawmakers from California and Florida said their state governments were beginning to experience trouble borrowing funds for their own operations.


One month before election day, the drama unfolded in an intensely political atmosphere.


Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, a supporter of the bill, made calls to members of the Congressional Black Caucus, who publicly credited him with changing their minds.


Rep. Elijah Cummings and Donna Edwards, both Maryland Democrats, were among them. They said Obama had pledged if he wins the White House that he would help homeowners facing foreclosure on their mortgages. He also pledged to support changes in the bankruptcy law to make it less burdensome on consumers.


"It's not too often you get the future president telling you that his priority matches your priority," said Cummings.


Obama's rival, Sen. John McCain, who announced a brief suspension in his campaign more than a week ago to try and help solve the financial crisis, made calls to Republicans. His impact was not immediately clear.


Republican Rep. Sue Myrick of North Carolina, who said she was switching her vote to favor the measure, said of McCain: "They told me he was going to call me. He didn't.
"

Looking ahead to election day, she added, "I may lose this race over this vote, but that's OK with me. This is the right vote for the country.
"

The White House issued the latest in a series of grim warnings of the risks of defeat. "If the financial markets fail to function, American families will face great difficulty in getting loans to purchase a home, buy a family car or finance a child's education," it said in a written statement.


The vote on Monday staggered the congressional leadership and contributed to the largest one-day stock market drop in history, 778 points as measured by the Dow Jones Industrial Average.


Across the Capitol, Senate leaders reacted quickly, deciding to sweeten the bill with a series of popular tax breaks as well as spending on rural schools and disaster aid. They also grafted on a bill to expand mental health coverage under private insurance plans.


At the same time, the change in federal deposit insurance and the action by the SEC on an obscure accounting rule helped produce a steady trickle of converts.

Posted on: 2008/10/3 17:44
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House passes $700B Wall Street bailout

By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS AND DAVID ESPO

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/381680_bailout04.html

After a week of tumult, an unprecedented $700 billion government bailout of the financial industry passed the U.S. House of Representatives on Friday.


With the election-year economy showing fresh signs of weakness on several fronts, the measure advanced past a key hurdle on a 263-171 vote.


An Associated Press tally showed 29 lawmakers who sent an earlier bailout bill to unexpected defeat on Monday had changed their minds and would vote in favor of the revised legislation, far more than the dozen needed. Officials said changes made to the measure had sparked a far smaller number of defections among previous supporters.


"I'm optimistic about today. We're not going to take anything for granted but it's time to act," said House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio.


"I think it will pass," agreed Rep. Jim Clyburn, the chief Democratic vote-counter, as debate unfolded in the House chamber.


On Wall Street, stocks surged ahead of the vote as the Dow Jones industrial average rose nearly 150 points.


The Senate passed the measure earlier in the week on a bipartisan vote of 74-25, and Bush has repeatedly urged Congress to send the bailout to him swiftly to prevent even further economic deterioration.


"No matter what we do or what we pass, there are still tough times out there. People are mad -- I'm mad," said Republican Rep. J. Gresham Barrett of South Carolina, who opposed the measure the first time it came to a vote. Now, he said, "We have to act. We have to act now.
"

Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., another convert, said, "I have decided that the cost of doing nothing is greater than the cost of doing something.
"

Critics were unrelenting.


"How can we have capitalism on the way up and socialism on the way down," said Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas, a leader among conservative Republicans who oppose the central thrust of the legislation -- an unprecedented federal intervention into the private capital markets.


It was little more than two weeks ago that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke concluded that the economy was in such danger that a massive government intervention in the private markets was essential.


The core of the plan remains little changed from its inception -- the Treasury Department would have $700 billion at its disposal to purchase bad mortgage-related securities that are weighing down the balance sheets of institutions that hold them. The flow of credit has slowed, in some cases drying up, threatening the ability of businesses to conduct routine operations or expand.


At the same time, lawmakers have dramatically changed the measure, insisting on greater congressional supervision over the $700 billion, taking measures to protect taxpayers, and insisting on steps to crack down on so-called "golden parachutes" that go to corporate executives whose companies fail.


Earlier in the week, the legislation was altered to expand the federal insurance program for individual bank deposits, and the Securities and Exchange Commission took steps to ease the impact of the questionable mortgage-backed securities on financial institutions.


In the moments before the vote, Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, pledged "serious surgery" next year to address the underlying causes of the crisis.


If anything, the economic news added to the sense of urgency.


The Labor Department said initial claims for jobless benefits had increased last week to the highest level since the gloomy days after the 2001 terror attacks. Employers slashed 159,000 jobs from their payrolls, the most in five years. That came on top of Thursday's Commerce Department report that factory orders in August plunged by 4 percent.


Typifying arguments the problem no longer is just a Wall Street issue but also one for Main Street, lawmakers from California and Florida said their state governments were beginning to experience trouble borrowing funds for their own operations.


One month before election day, the drama unfolded in an intensely political atmosphere.


Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, a supporter of the bill, made calls to members of the Congressional Black Caucus, who publicly credited him with changing their minds.


Rep. Elijah Cummings and Donna Edwards, both Maryland Democrats, were among them. They said Obama had pledged if he wins the White House that he would help homeowners facing foreclosure on their mortgages. He also pledged to support changes in the bankruptcy law to make it less burdensome on consumers.


"It's not too often you get the future president telling you that his priority matches your priority," said Cummings.


Obama's rival, Sen. John McCain, who announced a brief suspension in his campaign more than a week ago to try and help solve the financial crisis, made calls to Republicans. His impact was not immediately clear.


Republican Rep. Sue Myrick of North Carolina, who said she was switching her vote to favor the measure, said of McCain: "They told me he was going to call me. He didn't.
"

Looking ahead to election day, she added, "I may lose this race over this vote, but that's OK with me. This is the right vote for the country.
"

The White House issued the latest in a series of grim warnings of the risks of defeat. "If the financial markets fail to function, American families will face great difficulty in getting loans to purchase a home, buy a family car or finance a child's education," it said in a written statement.


The vote on Monday staggered the congressional leadership and contributed to the largest one-day stock market drop in history, 778 points as measured by the Dow Jones Industrial Average.


Across the Capitol, Senate leaders reacted quickly, deciding to sweeten the bill with a series of popular tax breaks as well as spending on rural schools and disaster aid. They also grafted on a bill to expand mental health coverage under private insurance plans.


At the same time, the change in federal deposit insurance and the action by the SEC on an obscure accounting rule helped produce a steady trickle of converts.




Intressant att börsen störtdök efter kl 13:35 när bailouten gick igenom..... http://finance.yahoo.com/marketupdate?u

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http://airamerica.com/content/clout-greg-pallasts-bailout-update

Hear Greg Pallast update and explain new details about the bailout plan just passed by the U.S. Senate.

Posted on: 2008/10/3 19:36
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Mera Bailout... The Amerikan dream..

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/ ... 7b&ei=5087%0A&oref=slogin

California, Short of Cash, May Ask US for Loan

By RANDAL C ARCHIBOLD
Published: October 3, 2008

LOS ANGELES — With the credit crisis cutting off access to short-term financing, California officials said the state may be forced to ask the United States government to lend it $7 billion, warning that the state could run out of money in a few weeks without it

Gov Arnold Schwarzenegger in a letter Thursday night to Treasury Secretary Henry M Paulson Jr said that with credit markets essentially frozen, the state, like a slew of others and local governments nationwide, had no access to the short-term financing that normally support day-to-day operations

“California and other states may be unable to obtain the necessary level of financing to maintain government operations and may be forced to turn to the Federal treasury for short-term financing,” Mr Schwarzenegger said in the letter, which was first reported by The Los Angeles Times

Treasury officials said they were reviewing the letter

As the nation’s most populous state, California’s precarious finances underscore the depths of the financial crisis The emergency handout, the equivalent of $192 for each resident, would rival the federal government’s bailout of New York City in 1975 as it teetered on bankruptcy

At a news conference Friday morning in San Diego, Mr Schwarzenegger congratulated Congress on approving the $700 billion bailout for the financial system, but warned that the state still could face financial turmoil “California is not out of the woods yet,” he said

The state, he added, would pursue short-term financing through the credit markets, but “it is hard to get that loan”

“If we can’t get that loan through the normal course, we will go through the federal government and we already set that in motion,” he said

Asked what would happen if the markets or the government did not come through, Mr Schwarzenegger replied, “This is no such thing in my vocabulary as ‘what if not’ We will”

Bill Lockyer, the state treasurer, had warned on Wednesday that as Congress debated the rescue plan, the state had been locked out of credit markets for the past 10 days “The credit market is frozen because financial institutions are afraid to commit capital amid enormous uncertainty,” he said

Mr Lockyer also said the state’s cash reserves would drain completely near the end of the month, jeopardizing payment for teachers’ salaries, nursing homes, law enforcement and an array of other state-financed services California’s 5,000 cities, counties and school districts, he added, would face the same fate

In an interview today, Mr Lockyer said the state gets routine short-term loans in the fall to cover its bases until state coffers refill in the spring from tax revenue and other sources But the shuttered credit market has upended the budgeting, he said, adding that even if the credit markets loosen, it could cost more to borrow He noted that in the weeks leading up to the crisis borrowing terms had increased substantially

Still, he said he believed the recovery plan would provide some relief and predicted that would be more likely than the government loan

“No one likes looking over the precipice, but I think we’re ok,” he said

Late in September, California adopted a $143 billion budget, 85 days overdue, after a protracted fight between Mr Schwarzenegger, a Republican, and the legislature over how to close a $15 billion gap

The budget included some cuts in services It also relied on accounting maneuvers and assumptions like voter approval to borrow $5 billion against future lottery revenue and to expand the state’s rainy day fund to 125 percent of general fund expenditures, from 5 percent

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House members who voted ‘yes’ on bailout received 54 percent more from banks/securities firms.»
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/30/banks-contributions-bailout/

"Over the past five years, banks and securities firms gave an average of $231,877 in campaign contributions to each Representative voting in favor of the bailout, compared with an average of $150,982 to each Representative voting against the bailout – 54 percent more money given to those who voted Yes."

Subprime Banking Mess
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC31Oudc5Bg
"John Bird and John Fortune (the Long Johns) brilliantly, and accurately, describing the mindset of the investment banking community in this satirical interview."

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Lugn det finns stålar......

Och passa på att läsa sista meningen i andra styckt 2 gånger...

"Which explains the restart of the Chemtrail Program."


'09 NAT DEF AUTHORIZATION ACT BEGAN 10/NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTH. ACT 2009

U.S. Representative Tom Allen, a senior member of the House Budget Committee, announced Sept. 20, 2008 the passage of the 2009 Defense Appropriations bill.


This defense budget for fiscal year 2009 began October 1, 2008. Which explains the restart of the Chemtrail Program.


You think Wall Street is the only one stealing your money?

NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTH.
ACT 2009 (EXCERPT)

"After six years of combat and five years of fighting two wars, our military is under significant strain.
"

"We must strike a balance between funding the equipment and training
needed today with commitments to the long-term modernization of the service.
"

$153.
2 billion: Military Personnel Subcommitee

$79.
2 billion: Air and Land Research
$51 billion: Strategic Forces Subcommitee

$ 54.
3 billion for Navy and Marine Corps Procurement
$2 Billion towards Unfunded Readiness Initiatives

Equipment Reset: $8.
6 billion for Army,
...$1.
6 billion for Marine Corps

$ 831 million for KC-45 Tanker Prgoram
$1.
7 billion : Commanders Emergency Response Fund

$ 5.
9 billion: Special Operations Command
$ 939 million Termial High Altitude Area Defense

"The O&I Subcommittee report pointed out that currently..."
"pre-deployment training for military and civilian personnel.."

"...is conducted in an ad hoc manner.
"
$480 million to expand training opportunities for the Army

$800 million for procurement of Nat Guard equipment
$ 550.
7 million: Equip Maintenance funding

$ 90.
6 million for additional Human Terrain Team
$ 4.
3 billion: Grow The Force Initiative

$ 4.
5 billion: Shipbuilding
$ 1 billion: Presidential Helicopter Program

$378.
6 million: Airborne Laser
$100 million: Kinetic Energy Interceptor

$100 million: Multiple Kill Vehicle

The Committee permanently prohibits service members from being charged for meals atmilitary treatment facilities while undergoing medical recuperation or therapy.


GOOD THING THEY PUT THAT IN WRITING.


$ 75 million: Missile Warning Satellites
$1.
5 billion: Patriot missiles

IRREGULAR WARFARE: A bill establishes...

an Executive Agent for Irregular Warfare

$ 90.
6 million to study use of social sciences in Irregular Warfare

Committee encourages DOD to integrate social scientists
more extensively into the research program.


$31 million-Expanded Human Behavior Research

NON LETHAL WEAPONS...

The bill also encourages DOD to determine whether non-lethal capabilities should be requirements for supporting civil authorities in domestic security situations.


http://homepage.mac.com/carolepellatt/OCT08/PhotoAlbum317.html

(PHOTOS AND DOWNLOAD OF NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT, 2009)

Putting the Financial Rescue Package in Perspective

by Travis Sharp [contact information]

October 2, 2008

The $700 billion financial bailout package has drawn the ire of citizens throughout the United States. Both conservatives and liberals have voiced concern that the package bails out Wall Street titans, who caused the financial crisis in the first place, by placing an enormous burden on middle- and working-class taxpayers. At a time when people are losing their homes and struggling to make ends meet, many Americans find the $700 billion cost of the package to be simply unacceptable.


What many Americans probably don't realize is that the United States is likely to spend $711 billion, more than the cost of the financial bailout, on national defense in the fiscal year that began on October 1, 2008.





How was this figure for defense spending calculated? The Bush administration requested $541 billion for National Defense (budget function 050) in fiscal year (FY) 2009. This $541 billion request is comprised of $515.4 billion for the Department of Defense (DOD), $15.6 billion for Department of Energy-administered nuclear weapons activities, $5.6 billion for non-DOD defense activities, and $4.4 billion for additional mandatory defense spending.


The administration also submitted a $70 billion placeholder FY 2009 request for ongoing military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, which was passed by Congress and President Bush in June 2008. This $70 billion, however, will not be enough to fund Iraq and Afghanistan through all of FY 2009. Don't forget that $195 billion was spent on the wars in FY 2008.


Secretary of Defense Robert Gates suggested in February 2008 that $170 billion might be needed to fund Iraq and Afghanistan through all of FY 2009. Using this $170 billion estimate, which remains a reasonable projection even if troop withdrawals from Iraq commence in early 2009, a combined total of at least $711 billion will be spent by the United States on national defense in FY 2009.


A troubled economy and soaring defense spending are not the only factors contributing to the gathering storm. Declining tax revenues and growing mandatory spending are also clouding the fiscal skies. The Bush administration's tax cuts helped increase the gross national debt by over 70 percent (approximately $4 trillion) since FY 2001, forcing the government to spend more on debt interest payments despite generating less tax revenue. Federal spending on both mandatory programs (like Social Security) and debt interest payments, if current trends hold, will consume two-thirds of government revenues by 2015, crowding out other spending priorities like defense, education, and housing assistance.


In short, the United States is approaching a time when budgetary choices desperately need to be made.


http://www.armscontrolcenter.org/poli ... scue_package_perspective/

For more information:

* Total Iraq and Afghanistan Supplemental War Funding To Date
* U.S.
Spending on Iraq and Afghanistan by Month, Week, Day, Hour, Minute, & Second
* Historical Costs of Previous U.S.
Wars
* FY 2009 Pentagon (DOD) Defense Budget Spending Request
* U.S.
Defense Spending, 2001-2009
* 2008-2009 U.S.
Defense Spending Highest Since WWII, Tops Vietnam and Korea
* Comparing the Defense Share of the FY 2009 Discretionary Budget Request to Other Programs
* FY 2009 Global Military Spending

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