Intressant att man lägger ner såmycket tid på att få folk att sluta prata om alla fula vita spår på himlen.

Tack för länken till http://contrailscience.com

Eller hur haha du har iallfall lite perspektiv ; )

Vet inte om ni sett denna... (Så många länkar i tråden)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgj7S-zf_cY&feature=related

Time to connect the dots... hehe

Dom borde utöka vad det verkligen är, inte bara göra en så snäv testning...

Lite mer Chem-trail godis med A.C. Griffith

Man kan fundera över vad exempelvis Dag Stålsjö hade sagt om chemtrails! Om ni inte vet vem han var, så se länken

http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dag_Stålsjö

(Man kan av någon anledning inte skriva in länken så att den är klickbar! Detta är mer än mystiskt! Men ni hittar honom ändå på Wikipedia, ge inte upp...)

Det han blev mest känd för, att Svea Rikes vagga närmast låg i Götaland, har senare blivit allmänt accepterat även om det satt mycket långt inne.

Men alldeles innan sin död (han omkom enligt uppgift vid en älgolycka) utförde han en massa mätningar som visade på starka kraftfält i jordytan med spänningsskillnader på upp till 50.000 volt i toppen på grässtrån i linjer bredvid varandra. Han talade också om höga och växlande spänningar i atmosfären, det verkar alltså som om han var något "tesla-aktigt" på spåren - när han plötsligt omkom!

Undrar vad han hade sagt om det vi diskuterar i denna tråd...

Kan man undra, sök vidare

När jag sitter på jobbet och tittar ut varje dag, så ser jag hur flygplan skapar moln på himlen från morgon till kväll.

Jag ser ut det skapar ett stort vitt täcke över hela himlen vissa dagar.

Detta för mig är otroligt störande då först av allt är det riktigt fult, tycker mer om att ha vanliga naturliga moln tillsammans med den blåa himlen.

Vissa dagar ser jag en otrolig mängd via streck på himlen, har aldrig sett så många som det är nu.

Förvånande att det aldrig tas upp i massmedia(eller iofs inte) då det är så otrolig stor fokus på miljö.

Moln är som en isolering.
På morgonen är det kallt och himlen är öppen, sen på eftermiddagen kommer alla flygplan in och skapar ett vitt täcke.
Vilket håller kvar kylan.

När det är varmt så är isoleringen på natten/morgonen och öpnnar upp på eftermiddagen när solen kommer.

Andra dagar så ser det ut såhär:
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Vädret känns väldigt konstgjort nuförtiden.

Intressant morgon i hjärtat av småland!

http://img155.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=img0628zy.jpg

Quote:

mm...såg det när jag åkte till jobbet imorse. Bland det värsta jag sett.
Såg dessutom trails som startade på väldigt låg höjd och stegrade sig uppåt skyn, vilket motsäger att det skulle röra sig om contrails på hög altitud.

Morgonens himmel fick mig att känna att nåt är på g nu...

The powerful coalition that wants to engineer the world's climate

"" Once we start manipulating the atmosphere we could be trapped, forever dependent on a program of sulphur injections into the stratosphere. In that case, human beings would never see a blue sky again.""





Businessmen, scientists and right-wing thinktanks are joining forces to promote 'geo-engineering' ideas to cool the planet's climate, writes Clive Hamilton


Some people geo-engineering techniques, such as filling the sky with shiny dust to reflect sunlight, could curb such temperature rises without the need to restrict greenhouse gas emissions

In August 1883 the painter Edvard Munch witnessed an unusual blood-red sunset over Oslo. Shaken up by it, he wrote in his diary that he "felt a great, unending scream piercing through nature". The incident inspired him to create his most famous work, The Scream.

The sunset he saw that evening followed the eruption of Krakatoa off the coast of Java. The explosion, one of the most violent in recorded history, sent a massive plume of ash into the stratosphere, turning sunsets red around the globe. The gases emitted also caused the Earth to cool by more than one degree and disrupted weather patterns for several years.

The cooling effect of large volcanic eruptions has been known for some time. A haze forms from the sulphur dioxide spewed into the upper atmosphere reducing the amount of solar radiation reaching the Earth. It's estimated that the eruption of Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines in 1991 — the largest since Krakatoa — cooled the Earth by around 0.5°C for a year or more.

Now, a powerful coalition of forces is quietly constellating around the idea of transforming the Earth's atmosphere by simulating volcanic eruptions to counter the warming effects of carbon pollution. Engineering the planet's climate system is attracting the attention of scientists, scientific societies, venture capitalists and conservative think tanks. Despite the enormity of what is being proposed — nothing less than taking control of Earth's climate system — the public has been almost entirely excluded from the planning.

The Royal Society defines geoengineering as "the deliberate large-scale manipulation of the planetary environment to counteract anthropogenic climate change" and divides methods into two types: carbon dioxide removal from the atmosphere, and solar radiation management aimed at reducing heat coming in or reflecting more of it out.

Techniques ranging from the intriguing to the wacky have been proposed to remove carbon from the atmosphere, including fertilising the oceans with iron filings to promote the growth of tiny marine plants that absorb carbon dioxide, installing in the ocean a vast number of floating funnels that draw nutrient-rich cold water from the deep to encourage algal blooms that suck carbon dioxide from the air, and construction of thousands of 'sodium trees' that extract carbon dioxide directly from the air and turn it into sodium bicarbonate.

Some of the ideas put forward to block the Sun's heat would be far-fetched even in a science fiction novel. One is to send billions of reflective discs to a point in space known as L1 and located between the Earth and the Sun. Another is to launch hundreds of special unmanned ships that plough the oceans sending up plumes of water vapour that increase cloud cover. Or dark-coloured forests could be converted into light-coloured grasslands that reflect more sunlight.

Enhanced dimming
But the option that is taken most seriously is altogether grander in conception and scale. The scheme proposes nothing less than the transformation of the chemical composition of the Earth's atmosphere so that humans can regulate the temperature of the planet as desired. Like volcanic eruptions, it involves injecting sulphur dioxide gas into the stratosphere to blanket the Earth with tiny particles that reflect solar radiation.

Various schemes have been proposed, with the most promising being adaptation of high-flying aircraft fitted with extra tanks and nozzles to spray the chemicals. A fleet of 747s could do the job. To have the desired effect we would need the equivalent of one Mount Pinatubo eruption every three or four years. The emissions from the eruption in April of Iceland's 'Mount Unpronounceable' were less than a hundredth of those from Pinatubo, so to engineer the climate we'd need the equivalent of one of those every week, every year for decades.

More cautious scientists recognise that attempting to regulate the Earth's climate by enhancing global dimming is fraught with dangers. Most worryingly, the oceans are absorbing around a third of the extra carbon dioxide pumped into the atmosphere by humans, which is raising their acidity, dissolving corals and inhibiting shell-formation by marine organisms. Turning down the dimmer switch may reduce incoming solar radiation but would do nothing to slow ocean acidification. The climate system is hugely complicated and tinkering with it might be akin to introducing cane toads to control sugarcane beetles.

Moral hazards
Although ideas for climate engineering have been around for at least twenty years, until recently public discussion has been discouraged by the scientific community. Environmentalists and governments have been reluctant to talk about it too. The reason is simple: apart from its unknown side-effects, geoengineering would weaken resolve to reduce carbon emissions.

Economically it is an extremely attractive substitute because its cost is estimated to be "trivial" compared to those of cutting carbon pollution. While the international community has found it difficult to agree on strong collective measures to reduce carbon emissions, climate engineering is cheap, immediately effective and, most importantly, available to a single nation.

Among the feasible contenders for unilateral intervention, one expert names China, the USA, the European Union, Russia, India, Japan and Australia. Could they agree? It's like seven people living together in a centrally heated house, each with their own thermostat and each with a different ideal temperature. China will be severely affected by warming, but Russia might prefer the globe to be a couple of degrees warmer.

If there is no international agreement an impatient nation suffering the effects of climate disruption may decide to act alone. It is not out of the question that in three decades the climate of the Earth could be determined by a handful of Communist Party officials in Beijing. Or the government of an Australia crippled by permanent drought, collapsing agriculture and ferocious bushfires could risk the wrath of the world by embarking on a climate control project.

To date, governments have shunned geoengineering for fear of being accused of wanting to avoid their responsibilities with science fiction solutions. The topic is not mentioned in the Stern report and receives only one page in Australia's Garnaut report (see Section 2.4.2). As a sign of its continuing political sensitivity, when in April 2009 it was reported that President Obama's new science adviser John Holdren had said that geoengineering is being vigorously discussed as an emergency option in the White House, he immediately felt the need to issue a "clarification" claiming that he was only expressing his personal views.

Holdren is one of the sharpest minds in the business and would not be entertaining what is now known as 'Plan B'— engineering the planet to head off catastrophic warming — unless he was fairly sure Plan A would fail.

Fiddling with the dimmer switch may prove an almost irresistible political fix for governments. It gets powerful lobbies off their backs, gives the green light to burn more coal, avoids the need to raise petrol taxes, allows unrestrained growth and is no threat to consumer lifestyles.

In short, compared to cutting greenhouse gas emissions, geoengineering gets everyone off the hook. No government is yet willing to lend official support to geoengineering. However, the pressure is building and the day when the government of a major nation like the United States, Russia or China publicly backs Plan B cannot be far off. Then the floodgates will open.

Even now, beneath the radar, Russia has already begun testing. Yuri Izrael, a Russian scientist who is both a global-warming sceptic and a senior adviser to Prime Minister Putin, has tested the effects of aerosol spraying from a helicopter on solar radiation reaching the ground. He now plans a full-scale trial.

Strangelove and son
Two of the earliest and most aggressive advocates of planetary engineering were Edward Teller and Lowell Wood. Teller, who died in 2003, was the co-founder and director of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory near San Francisco, described by US author Jeff Goodell as having a "near-mythological status as the dark heart of weapons research". Teller is often described as the "father of the hydrogen bomb" and was the inspiration for Dr. Strangelove, the wheelchair-bound mad scientist prone to Nazi salutes in Stanley Kubrick's 1964 film of that name.

Lowell Wood was recruited by Teller to the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and became his protégé. For decades Wood was one of the Pentagon's foremost "weaponeers", leading him to be christened "Dr. Evil" by critics. He led the group tasked with developing Ronald Reagan's ill-fated Star Wars missile shield that included plans for an array of orbiting X-ray lasers powered by nuclear reactors.

Since 1998 Wood and Teller have been promoting aerosol spraying into the stratosphere as a simple and cheap counter to global warming. Reflecting the dominant opinion of the 1950s, they believe it is humankind's duty to exert supremacy over nature. It is perhaps for this reason that they have long been associated with conservative think tanks that deny the existence of human-induced global warming. Both men have been associated with the Hoover Institution, a centre of climate scepticism partly funded by ExxonMobil, and Wood is listed as an expert with the George C. Marshall Institute, a Washington think tank that became one of the main centres of climate denial in the 1990s.

It is strange that geoengineering is being promoted enthusiastically by a number of right-wing think tanks that are active in climate denialism. The American Enterprise Institute, an influential think tank also part-funded by ExxonMobil that offered US$10,000 to academics for papers debunking the reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, has launched a high-profile project to promote geoengineering.

Of course, geoengineering protects their supporters and financiers in the fossil industries because it can be a substitute for carbon reductions and justify delay. But a deeper explanation lies in their beliefs about the relationship of humans to the natural world.

Pursuing abatement is an admission that industrial society has harmed nature, while engineering the Earth's climate would be confirmation of our mastery over it — final proof that, whatever minor errors made on the way, human ingenuity and faith in our own abilities will always triumph. Geoengineering promises to turn failure into triumph.

Lowell Wood believes that climate engineering is inevitable; it's a matter of time before the 'political elites' wake up to its cheapness and effectiveness. In a statement that could serve as Earth's epitaph, he declared: "We've engineered every other environment we live in—why not the planet?"

Wood is contemptuous of the ability of world leaders to reduce emissions (which he dubs "the bureaucratic suppression of CO2") and of their ability to reach a consensus on trialling geoengineering. He predicts that necessity will overrun popular resistance to the idea of fiddling with the atmosphere.

Faced with this resistance, Wood speculates about getting private funding from a billionaire for an experiment. "As far as I can determine, there is no law that prohibits doing something like this". Wood is right: there is no law against a private individual attempting to take control of the Earth's climate.

Regulating climate regulation
This goes to the heart of the push to develop the tools for climatic manipulation. The debate over climate engineering is at present confined largely to a tight-knit group of scientists, some of whom want to keep the public in the dark and fend off regulation of their activities. In his book, How To Cool the Planet, Goodell describes a series of three private dinners in early 2009 that brought together the main players. Convened by two of the leading advocates, Ken Caldeira of Stanford University and David Keith of the University of Calgary, they were "a turning point in the evolution of geoengineering as a policy tool".

In March this year a private meeting of leading climate engineers,held in Asilomar, California, aimed to develop guidelines to govern research and testing. The invitees wanted a voluntary code of conduct that would forestall regulation by governments and the international community so that the experts could work unhindered at their task of understanding how to control of the Earth's climate system.

David Keith argues that an international treaty may be unnecessary because the use of solar radiation management could be regulated by unwritten "norms". This is despite his acknowledgement that the threat of unilateral action is very real; any one of a dozen countries could begin it within a few years. Indeed, one wealthy individual could transform the atmosphere and, with enough determination, bring on an ice age.

Perhaps the wealthy individual he has in mind is Bill Gates, who has covertly been funding geoengineering research for three years with advice from Keith and Caldeira. They now oversee Gates' research fund, which has spent some $4.5 million to date, including funding the three private dinners. Keith will not reveal what the money is being spent on, downplaying it as "a little private funding agency". Right—the world's richest man has a little private funding agency devoted to researching ways to manipulate the Earth's climate system. Conspiracy theory anyone?

Gates is also an investor in a firm named Intellectual Ventures that is promoting a scheme called "StratoShield", which would pump sulphur dioxide into the upper atmosphere through a 30-kilometre hose held aloft by V-shaped blimps. Intellectual Ventures is run by Nathan Myhrvold, former chief technology officer at Microsoft, and includes Lowell Wood among its associates.

Gates is not the only billionaire lone ranger who wants to save the planet. Richard Branson has set up his own "war room" to do battle with global warming. The battalions he wants to mobilise on "the path to victory" are successful entrepreneurs—like himself—and their weapons are "market driven solutions to climate change", including geoengineering.

The Carbon War Room — where inspirational quotes from Branson are mixed in with those of other titans like Churchill, Roosevelt and Einstein — represents the type of rich man's folly common amongst modern entrepreneurs with a Messiah complex.

The War Room site promotes a paper co-authored by Lee Lane of the American Enterprise Institute and published by the centre run by "skeptical environmentalist" Bjorn Lomborg. It argues that the benefits of geoengineering vastly outweigh the costs and shows how to set an optimal temperature for the Earth for the next two hundred years.

The authors worry that ethical objections from environmental advocacy groups may block the deployment of solar radiation management, before noting with relief, "in reality, important economies remain largely beyond the influence of environmental advocacy groups." They expect deployment of solar radiation management will be led by nations with weak environmental lobbies—which of course means dictatorships.

Blue-sky dreaming
More vivid sunsets like the one Edvard Munch saw in 1883 would be one of the consequences of using sulphate aerosols to engineer the climate; but a more disturbing effect of enhanced dimming would be the permanent whitening of day-time skies. A washed-out sky would become the norm.

If the nations of the world resort to climate engineering, and in doing so relieve pressure to cut carbon emissions, then the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere would continued to rise and so would the latent warming that would need suppressing. It would then become impossible to call a halt to sulphur injections into the stratosphere, even for a year or two, without an immediate jump in temperature.

It's estimated that, if whoever controls the scheme decided to stop, the back-up of greenhouse gases could see warming rebound at a rate 10-20 times faster than in the recent past, a phenomenon referred to, apparently without irony, as the "termination problem".

Once we start manipulating the atmosphere we could be trapped, forever dependent on a program of sulphur injections into the stratosphere. In that case, human beings would never see a blue sky again.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment ... g-coalition-world-climate

Det här gillar inte EXPO..

Dubbla meningar i allt.

Highlander 2

http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi3720807193/

A shield makes everyone its prisoner.
The hunt for immortals begins again.

Dom rättfärdiga får alltid betala priset för naiva självhatande människor.

Immortals = (renhjärtade).

Also, in 1999 there's some business about the O-Zone finally collapsing and threatening to fry mankind. Connor offers up a shield called Shield (?) to keep the rays of the sun from turning us into charcoal. The idea of the shield isn't quite as difficult to explain as that immortality thing but it isn't any more logical. McLoed's big idea involves concentrating the planet's energy into a "lay-zur" and is shot up into a satellite. Therefore Earth is saved from solar radiation (proving, I suppose, that if we would have depended on solar power, there would be hell to pay).

But, there's a drawback, there is no sun and the temperature consistently 99 degrees. Being 99 degrees raises another question of why, in 2024, we find Conner attending the Opera surrounded men in tuxes who should all be passing out from the heat. Furthermore there would be a major loss of food production and the land would be desert, but hey at least the arts are finally getting a boost.

Sen undrar man vart dom får sina ideer ifrån.

Expo har nog redan klargjort vilka dom jobbar åt, eller vilka muppar dom är.

Ni kan ljuga till vissa ibland eller till alla ibland men ni kan inte ljuga till alla hela tiden.


Media har spelat ut sin roll.

Beredd er stofiler för den nya tidsåldern.
Time is up.

Blezzz!

Bara stod och gapade medans jag svingade mig imellan lianerna när jag var ute med jycken....
sedan satt jag under morgonen och såg dem flyta samman.
var sjukt och se böjda trails aldrig sett det tidigare!...

Vad i hela friden är det som dem Sprayar!?
Är det med vädret eller vår hälsa dem Playar?
Kemikaliska Lianer För Babylons Babianer.

Ta hand om varandra och det vi har!
fridens

För sjuttan... aldrig sett trails böja sig, varför skulle de inte det?

Vindar lär kunna ändra de flesta molnformationer! Men jag kom plötsligt att tänka på askmolnet i våras som jag aldrig såg röken av och ingen annan heller såvitt jag vet, om dom inte bodde på Island i närheten av vulkanen.

Varför kom jag nu att tänka på detta? Jo existensen av chemtrails förnekas ju av samma instanser som påstod att askmolnet täckte hela Europa och haven utanför, ja hela Nordatlanten och Europa faktiskt.

Inte så lite tankeväckande...

Askmolnet innebar ju ett flygförbud under några dagar som föregicks av stark spänning mellan maktblocken - och kan ha varit halmstrået man grep efter för att skapa en situation där ett luftkrig mellan robotar och flyg skulle kunna genomföras utan störande inslag.

Hoppas verkligen att det inte var så illa... och att man pratat ihop sig sedan dess!

Rep. Kucinich's HR 2977 Names Chemtrails As An 'Exotic Weapon'

(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.

"What in the World are They Spraying?" - Official Trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te_FOsKL_5Q

Ang. den kommande filmen... Kort intervjuv... Hos AJ

Ser fram emot filmen.

Vi kommer alltid stötta på folk som lever i frihet genom självförnekelse och förnekar sånthär, så bli inte förvånad.

Monsanto develops Aluminum Resistant biotech seeds

http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/201 ... m-resistant-biotech-seeds

From a testing company

Very little Al+++ in the soil solution is required to cause damage to most plants. Few, if any plants grown for commercial purposes in this country will tolerate more than 1.0 ppm of soluble Al+++, and most will have some problems at levels greater than 0.5 ppm.

Aluminum is a common metal in soils. It is a significant toxin in acid soils (or soils exposed to acid rain) causing stunted roots (no rootlets ergo poor plant health). Good picture on that site as well.

Here are that site's general conclusions

-- When the soil pH is below 5.0, soluble Al is almost certainly a problem.

-- When the soil pH is between 5.0 and 5.5, soluble Al likely a small problem

-- When the soil pH is between 5.5 and 6.0, soluble Al is not likely to be a significant problem

-- When the soil pH is above 6.0, soluble Al is almost certainly not a problem.

-- Lime is the solution to excess soluble Al in the topsoil

-- Gypsum may be needed to correct excess soluble Al in the subsoil

Hope that's helpful - I learned something so... thanks! The genetic modification to withstand Aluminum is probably done to keep an acid tolerant plant from surviving the low pH but stunting from Al+++ poisoning.

Häftigt dokument...




http://downloads.climatescience.gov/s ... p2-3-final-report-all.pdf

Tjena alla


Jag en kompis som har kontaktat både flygtornet på Säve och Landvetter flygplats och luftfartsverket ang. mystiska flygplan.

I början av veckan fick han direktnummer till Landvettertornet efter att ha varit i kontakt med luftfartsverket. Medans han snackade med en tjej i tornet så flög ett plan över hans hus och trailade. Han frågade tjejen om hon kunde se flygplanet på sin radar, vilket hon inte kunde. Hans intryck var att hon blev lite besvärad av detta. Det är ju inte så konstigt, för som jag har förstått det är GBG stad kontrollerat luftrum och går under Landvetter.

Det är ju inte förvånade att hon inte kunde se planet för vi har försökt att spåra chemplanen med http://www.flightradar24.com/ och en annan site som jag inte har adressen till.
Men vi har inte kunnat se dem där.

Hur som helst har min polare berättat för både Säve- och Landvettertornet om att det finns flygplan i skyn ovanför GBG som verkar spreja ut någon dynga över stan.

Den respons han fått är bra och de som han har snackat med verkar ta hans "oro" på allvar.

Så han kan ha sått lite schyssta frön hos flygledarpersonalen i GBG-området.

Han kommer att återkoppla till dom om en vecka eller två.

Apropå aluminium så var det ju en aluminiumfabrik om gjorde utsläppet i Ungern i veckan. Jag är inte kemikunnig men är lite förvånad över att aluminium kan vara så giftigt, för aluminiumsilikat är ju väldigt vanligt och mest känt som s.k. "blålera". Eftersom det går åt massor av energi för att tillverka aluminium brukar smältverken vara beroende av närhet till stora kraftverk men är det nåt Ungern INTE är känt för så är det ju stora vattenfall som kunde leverera billig energi!

Mystiska flygplan har det talats om redan i de mystiska gratistidningar som delades ut till hushållen av Undersökningen av Försvarsviljan under åttiotalet...

För att sända sin information måste planen ha på sin transponderdändare.

Om ingen sådan finns ska planen dyka upp iallfall som en punkt.

Om nu radarn är konstruerat till att uppfatta trafik som inte registrerad.

Varför blir jag inte förvånad????

Vem har tillgång till att flyga oregistrerat i luftrummet???

Låter mer som ett militärprojekt.