http://www.projectcamelot.net/svali.mp3

Kvinna som enligt Project Camelot varit "medlem i Illuminati"...
Låter lika märkligt detaljerad som alla andra intervjuade på PC...

Berättar om barnoffer i rum under Vatikanen mm som initieringsrit.

Vete sjutton...å ena sidan är hon väldigt detaljerad och har hur mycket som helst att berätta...å andra sidan känns det i maggrupen att detta är en psykotisk mytoman.

Vad säger ni?

Ja Project Camelot har inte direkt någon trovärdighet.

Ja vad skall man tro ? Jag är väldigt skeptisk till folk som påstår sig varit medlem i Illuminati . Leo Zagami är en annan fd Illuminat &"historieberättare"
som många här inne verkar tro på.

Q: But, with the evidence out there, why aren't more people concerned about the Illuminati?



A: Because they simply can't, won't believe that this is happening. I am a strong Christian, and in Revelations, it says that right before the return of Jesus, people will be acting as if nothing has happened, that all is normal, in spite of evidence to the contrary. You could show people a video taken of a ritual, and they would declare: "it has to be a fake; people just don't do those things." You can show them a site with pentagrams, buried bones, and other evidence, and they would say, "Oh, that is just teenagers playing around". You can show them photos of underground tunnels near Los Alamos, and they will say, "Isn't that interesting. Must be some government project." They can be shown the scars on a survivor's body, from cigarette burns in childhood, and old lash marks that have healed on their back, and the question would be "are you sure it wasn't self inflicted?"



The evidence is there, but in my opinion, the average person does NOT want to know, and even when confronted with it, will look the other way.




The Franklin case is a point. How much evidence has come out? Or the MK-Ultra documents that have been declassified, shown as real, and people ignore it.

Okay, I'll get off my soap box. But I believe that the media that downplays ritual abuse is feeding into a deep need in the average person to NOT know the reality. In fact, how can a person face the fact of great evil in mankind, unless they have either a strong faith in God, or are faced with insurmountable evidence? We as human beings want to believe the BEST of our race, not the worst, IMHO.






Q: You probably have heard of the 'Bohemian Grove'. What do you know about this? Any connection to the Illuminati?

A: I myself do not know anything about the Bohemian Grove. Remember, I wouldn't have been in a position to have much to do with it. Most of my connections were with Germany. I was never prostituted out, instead I taught others to be that. But I myself never went there, and really don't know anything about it. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful there.

Now, if you were asking about the masonic temple in Alexandria, Va., or the "Institute' in Charlottesville, Va., or a small grove up in Canada with a bronze statue of Baal, I could help you. Sorry I don't have anything to share on this topic. If the Bohemian Grove is occult, though, it probably definitely is known about by the Illuminati.

Känns som det är EXTREMT mycket desinfo gällande Illuminati. Informationskanalerna fullkomligt flödar över av olika bud gällande Illuminati.

Jag blir väldigt skeptisk och på min vakt när man som Svali presenterar Illuminati som om det vore typ Livets Ord, Firman eller någon annan organiserad förening.

Där tror jag David Icke (som jag annars är så tvivlande på) har en viktig poäng i sina föreläsningar:

The Lie is Different on every level.

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Många fällor ligger utplacerade med hjälp av bla Counterintelligence. Det finns gott om disinfoagenter och mytomaner där ute. Många som kallar sig vakna verkar tro på allt som finns på nätet.

Q: I am certain that a lot of readers will say 'Come on, now I know this is just sci-fi, how can this be real?!' and would want to see some proof or evidence to that. What would you say to them?

A: I would say "go to a ritual, you will see plenty" except that I don't want ANYONE to ever see or be near that type of evil. Spiritual realities don't leave physical marks, but I think it is interesting that throughout recorded history, mankind has written about these type of phenomena.

Could all of our recorded histories be false? Could mankind be a pathological liar throughout the centuries in this area? If a person visits Africa, they will also hear accounts of shape shifting done by the occult, and there, they DON'T dissociate, so you can interview people who have seen it while fully conscious. In South America, and Asia, this also occurs. How could a world-wide phenomena be made up by groups that had no previous contact with each other? Does the demonic leave a trail, a mark that I can point to? No. But does it leave an indelible impression on those that have witnessed it? Yes, and even in premedieval times, this type of stuff was recorded. I didn't take videos or snapshots of this stuff happening, so a person has to decide whether they believe it or not based on oral testimony. I don't really care. I know what I saw.

A73.

Why not trying to type in Swedish, to start with? The topic, as well as the general discussion would benefit greatly if you did.
That would stake your credibility as a starter, wouldn't it?

What are your claims here in this topic, anyway? That these withnesses are so ugly, so evil, so incredible, that thus, they must be truth?

Project Camelot states a anacronism anyway - on one hand, it's stories are really too far, too out of the realm of reason, that they are hard to accept to be even mildly true. On the other hand; it's intervjuee are so extremely detailed and fluidly speaking, that their testemonies are very hard just to disperse.