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fd soviet, ryska piloter. En soldat lyder order, inget mer med det.
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hmm ok, kort fattat om det här med chems...
tror ni inte det har något med satelitsystem att göra, kanske något medel som lägger sig på marken för´att sedan lättare kunna ses med hjälp av övervakning via satelit? dom kanske drar vissa gränser med dessa chem spår? jag tror även på att det kan vara vad f som helst dom släpper ut också... sen det här med att hitta flygplatserna dem startar från osv är absolut inte svårt. mobalisering prioritet nr 1. INTRESSE. 1. mobiltelefoner,kontakt. oregistrerade kontantkort. 2. personer i varje stad som bor nära militär anläggningar mm, för att kunna med kikare, kameror kartlägga landing, start osv. 3. kunna lita på varandra, gå ihop och göra försök. ingen dör av det så länge inte ksi kommer hem om natten och gasar lite i lägenheten så du sover djup för att sen fota ditt hem. 4. lägga upp material via nätet mm 5. gå på bolaget, införskaffa sprit stora doser i väntan på att storebrorsan ska komma hem och spöa dig lite. hur svårt kan det vara. nej . inte svårt . samma sak gäller spridandet av 9/11 . mobalisering.... varför ska inte svensson få vara effektiva... i lagens namn... hrmm på gränsen till olagligt då  sen ni något olagligt med detta. ska vi försöka. vilka är på. tid, datum..... ska vi kolla det nu någon helg framöver bättre än att sitta och skita på toan bakis nån söndag. eller ? har jag fel. /aktiv |
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ ... 08/170608_b_chemtrail.htm
The largest coordinated global engineering project in the history of our species. People across the world are noticing planes crossing back and forth in the sky leaving in their wake a trail of vapor that does not evaporate. These are not your normal commercial airlines following a preordained path from city to city. There mysterious unmarked planes leave smoke-like trails behind them that spread until by the afternoon they have blossomed and grown until the skies have become overcast. Officials from the Air Traffic Control the EPA and the Air Force will not respond to questions regarding this phenomenon.
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http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/vildmarksdata/index.php
Nu över Sorsele......10.35 3/7 2008 Ett som börjar sprida ut sig över Tärnaby.. http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror ... mmun/storuman_tarnaby.php Och Arjeplog... http://www.webbkameror.se/webbkameror/arjeplog/index.php
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Idag såg jag lite slingor från olika flygplan, strax innan ett åskväder. Min fru ringde, bor 1 mil från mitt arbete och berättade att det var värsta ovädret där. Här där jag befann mig var molnen mörka, men knappt något regn. Lite åska, inte mer...
Funderar på om dessa chemtrails kanske kunde påverka nederbörden?
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ALERT! The US Military's Human-Testing Program Returns
I WOULD BE A FOOL NOT TO SEE THE POSSIBLE CONNECTION BETWEEN 'OPEN AIR TESTING' AND CHEMTRAILS http://www.dailyscare.com/3114/breaki ... n-testing-program-returns Breaking the Nuremberg Code: The US Military's Human-Testing Program Returns by Heather Wokusch The Pentagon is slated to release a suspected toxicant in Crystal City, Virginia this week, ostensibly to test air sensors The operation is just the latest example of the Defense Department's long history of using service members and civilians as human test subjects, often without their consent or awareness Gas chambers in Maryland Wray C. Forrest learned about the US military's human-testing program the hard way. In 1973, the Army sent then 23-year-old Forrest to its Edgewood Arsenal chemical-research center in Maryland, promising patriotic service and a four-day work week Instead, he became one of roughly 6,720 soldiers used as Edgewood Arsenal test subjects between 1950-1975 Forrest was given a new identity at Edgewood: Research Subject #6692. He says, "That was the number assigned to me . similar to the numbers assigned to the Jews in the concentration/death camps in Germany during WWII" The US military tested heart drugs on Forrest, which he says were administered by IV and various types of injections. Forrest was also exposed to "contaminated drinking water, food, and various ground contaminates that permeate Edgewood Arsenal. BZ [a chemical incapacitating agent], napalm, mustard agents, and any number of other contaminates in the ground and drinking water there, from previous testing done there by the military" A total of 254 different chemicals were researched on soldiers at Edgewood, and Forrest notes, "We were never informed as to exactly what we were being given. We also did not sign any informed consent prior to the testing. This was a direct violation of the Geneva Convention rules for the use of humans in chemical and drug experiments/research" The Edgewood Arsenal facility played a role in WWII human subject testing as well. Roughly 4,000 US soldiers were used as human guinea pigs in chemical research which often took place in gas chambers US Navy member Nat Schnurman, for example, was sent to an Edgewood gas chamber six times one week in 1942. As The Detroit Free Press reported: "On his last visit, a blend of mustard gas and lewisite was piped in. Schnurman was overcome with toxins, vomited into his mask and begged for release. The request was denied. His next memory is of coming to on a snowbank outside the chamber" A pattern of abuse and neglect If the sagas of Forrest and Schnurman were isolated, they would represent a disgraceful yet closed chapter of US military history. Unfortunately, the Pentagon's human-testing program has extended far beyond Edgewood Arsenal Human Experimentation, a 1994 report from the congressional General Accounting Office (GAO), lays out the Defense Department's sordid history in detail Between 1949 and 1969, for example, the Army sprayed bacterial tracers or simulants on unsuspecting populations in hundreds of biological warfare tests. According to the GAO: "Some of the tests involved spraying large areas, such as the cities of St. Louis and San Francisco, and others involved spraying more focused areas, such as the New York City subway system and Washington National Airport" No coherent attempt was made to warn those affected or to offer follow-up medical care Between 1952-1975, the CIA tested LSD and other psychochemical agents on "an undetermined number of people without their knowledge or consent" No coherent attempt was made to offer follow-up information or care Over 235 atmospheric nuclear tests and experiments were conducted on roughly 210,000 personnel affiliated to the US Defense Department from 1945-1962. A further 199,000 "were exposed to radiation through work" No coherent attempt was made to warn those affected or to offer follow-up medical care One of the best known examples of US military human-testing is Project 112, whereby the Pentagon used biological/chemical agents on 5,842 service members in secret trials conducted over a ten-year period (1962-73) Project 112, and the affiliated Project SHAD, tested everything from Sarin nerve agent to an E. coli simulant aboard Navy ships and in land trials. Tests were conducted in six states (Alaska, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Maryland, Utah) Canada and Britain and often without the consent or awareness of those exposed Only in 2003, after crucial documents slowly became declassified, did the veterans' health complaints start to be acknowledged. By then, over 750 Project 112 veterans were already dead The Veterans' Administration still had not notified more than 40% of those used in Project 112/SHAD human testing by 2004. The Defense Department was blamed for foot-dragging in identifying the potentially affected service members and civilians The battle to receive care Wray Forrest knows firsthand about fighting official neglect and denial over human-testing. When his health started to deteriorate, Forrest was forbidden to get medical support: "We could not tell what we were exposed to due to the classification of the project, nor could we seek medical help due to the alleged non-disclosure papers we signed" Forrest was discharged from the military in 1982 for health reasons (deemed "unsuitable for service"). He was still unable to talk to anyone about Edgewood Arsenal, so kept his "agreed silence, and took what the military dished out calling me, UNSUITABLE" In July 2006, the Veterans' Administration (VA) released a document on health care eligibility listing Edgewood Arsenal survivors as a Category 6 disability rating, which meant that affected veterans would be eligible for clinical evaluation and "necessary treatment of conditions related to exposure without copays. " But when Forrest called the VA to seek help, he was told that the publication was an error and in fact Edgewood Arsenal veterans have no VA health care eligibility "How sweet, they have killed us, buried us, and now they want us to go away," he concluded Forrest is not the only veteran subjected to human-testing who has fought to receive care. Even in well-documented and recent cases, compensation is elusive In December 2007, for example, a federal judge dismissed a lawsuit brought by the widows of five veterans who died after being enrolled in fraudulent drug studies at the Stratton VA Medical Center in Albany, NY Stratton had been plagued by allegations of research violations from the early 1990s. Then in 1999, the facility hired Paul Kornak to be its Research Coordinator, despite the fact that Kornak had forged his credentials, falsified his college transcript and been arrested in Pennsylvania years earlier for related fraud. Apparently, background checks for health professionals were minimal at Stratton VA Medical Center From 1999-2003, Kornak falsified veterans' medical records at Stratton, inappropriately enrolling them in studies for drug marketability. In 2001, for example, Stratton tested a powerful three-drug chemotherapy combination on Carl M. Steubing, a 78-year-old Battle of the Bulge veteran, despite his previous bout with cancer and poor kidney function Steubing died in early 2002. His widow still wonders if the fraudulent human-test studies at Stratton cost her husband his life In court, the five widows' lawyer argued that Stratton "committed every kind of research ethics violation imaginable," adding "when you use individuals, humans, as guinea pigs, you do them harm" The US government responded by saying there was no way to prove the veterans had experienced pain or died early as a result of the corrupt drug experiments Case closed Open-air testing If veterans with solid proof of having been used as test subjects cannot receive compensation, the possibilities are miniscule for service members and civilians used in trials without their consent or awareness Open-air testing of chemical and biological (CB) agents is one such case After 6,000 sheep died following the apparent release of a nerve agent at an Army facility in Utah in 1969, open-air testing was officially said to have ended in the US But the Defense Department's April 2007 report to Congress on "Chemical and Biological Defense" strongly suggests an imminent resumption According to Francis A. Boyle, Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois College of Law and author of the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, at least three passages of the Pentagon's 2007 report indicate a planned continuance of open-air testing While one section of the document, for example, mentions the use of "live-CB-agent full system test chambers," another passage (page 67) reads: "More than thirty years have passed since outdoor live agent chemical tests were banned in the United States, and the last outdoor test with live chemical agent was performed, so much of the infrastructure for the field testing of chemical detectors no longer exists or is seriously outdated. The currently budgeted improvements in the T&E infrastructure will greatly enhance both the developmental and operational field testing of full systems, with better simulated representation of threats and characterization of system response" As Dr. Boyle notes, both "test chambers" and "field testing" are mentioned in the report In addition, the passage says that improvements in the T&E (testing and evaluation) infrastructure and "better simulated representation of threats" are going to be carried out using "full systems" rather than simulants Dr. Boyle says, "It is clear they will be engaging in 'Field Trials' (not in test chambers) of 'full systems,' which means 'live CB agents,' not simulants" Another troublesome passage from the Defense Department's April 2007 report (page 65) is: "Current T&E shortfalls lie in the full systems and platform test chambers and supporting instrumentation and fixtures. These test fixtures must be able to introduce and adequately control live CB agent challenges and provide a range of environmental and challenge conditions to simulate evolving threats, while performing end-to-end systems operations of CB equipment" Dr. Boyle points out that the passage says "full systems" rather than "simulants," and it makes a distinction between "test fixtures" and "test chambers." He adds that talking about "'a range of environmental and challenge conditions' in a test chamber" is nonsensical. "A test chamber does not have a 'range of environmental and challenge conditions" "What they are talking about here," Dr. Boyle concludes, "is testing live CB (chemical and biological) agents in Field Tests - open-air testing, where there will be a 'range of environmental and challenge conditions' to confront, test and verify" Gassing Crystal City In May 2007, just one month after the Defense Department's controversial report to Congress, the Pentagon quietly announced it would release "a dust simulating a biological attack in the Pentagon South Parking Lot. " The stated purpose was to study "the subsequent clean-up of roadways, people and equipment after the release" The announcement cryptically described the "dust" as containing "a harmless inert bacterium found in soil, water and air" Kirt P. Love, Director of the Desert Storm Battle Registry (DSBR), a Gulf War veterans' group dealing with the exposures of the 1991 conflict, repeatedly phoned the Pentagon to clarify exactly what "dust" would be used in the imminent open-air test He soon found, however, that "the departments involved were not communicating with each other . only the people who handled the agent knew anything" Love described the situation as "disquieting" and said, "I thought this was very unfair to the Pentagon Police and other innocent bystanders who didn't need to be kept in the dark about this How could they conduct an open air test of a microbe and not tell people what it was up front?" Eventually, Love's phone calls paid off. A Pentagon representative told him the substance to be tested was Bacillus Subtilis, which intriguingly, was also used during the US military's Project SHAD human testing in the 1960s-70s The Pentagon's announcement was correct in saying that Bacillus Subtilis is found in soil. It failed to mention, however, that the bacterium has been linked to pulmonary disease and irreversible lung damage The Defense Department quietly carried out its Bacillus Subtilis release in early June 2007. A Pentagon spokesperson would not confirm if the roughly 50 test subjects and numerous bystanders had been informed about the possible health risks And the open air tests continue In the next few days, the Pentagon is slated to release perfluorocarbon tracers and sulfur hexafluoride in Crystal City, Virginia Dubbed "Urban Shield: Crystal City Urban Transport Study," the operation will test the effectiveness of the city's chemical sensors, and according to The Examiner newspaper, "the data will help the Pentagon and Arlington shape their lockdown policies for chemical and biological attacks or accidents. " Lockdown policies According to a Pentagon press release from late February 2008, the study "will involve releasing a colorless, odorless, tasteless, and inert tracer gas that poses no health or safety hazards to people or the environment" But it's not quite that simple. Sulfur hexafluoride is a suspected respiratory toxicant; as such, exposure in certain amounts may be especially harmful for those with asthma, emphysema and other respiratory issues. It also is a suspected neurotoxicant, with potential untold consequences for the nervous systems of those vulnerable That part is left out of the Pentagon's press release Crystal City is one of the "urban villages" of Arlington County, Virginia. It features upscale offices and residential areas - in other words a lot of civilians. You would think that if the Pentagon is releasing suspected toxicants into such a compressed urban area there would be more warning about potential health risks Yet repeated phone calls to the Pentagon yesterday yielded no results. The Force Protection Agency seemed unaware of the upcoming test and the press office was of no help either. No one could - or would - answer basic questions such as how many people could be exposed in the open-air test, if any attempt had been made to brief citizens on potential health risks or if there would be any medical follow-up provided Perfectly legal The Pentagon's laissez faire approach to these open-air tests raises questions about the possibilities for further testing on the general US population There is a tricky clause in Chapter 32/Title 50 of the United States Code (the aggregation of US general and permanent laws)Specifically, Section 1520a lists the following cases in which the Secretary of Defense can conduct a chemical or biological agent test or experiment on humans if informed consent has been obtained: (1) Any peaceful purpose that is related to a medical, therapeutic, pharmaceutical, agricultural, industrial, or research activity (2) Any purpose that is directly related to protection against toxic chemicals or biological weapons and agents (3) Any law enforcement purpose, including any purpose related to riot control In other words, there are many circumstances under which the Secretary of Defense can test chemical or biological agents on human beings, but at least informed consent has to be obtained in advance Or does it Section 1515, another part of Chapter 32, is entitled "Suspension; Presidential authorization" and says: After November 19, 1969, the operation of this chapter, or any portion thereof, may be suspended by the President during the period of any war declared by Congress and during the period of any national emergency declared by Congress or by the President Essentially, if the President or Congress decides that we are at war then the Secretary of Defense does not need anybody's consent to test chemical or biological agents on human beings. Gives one pause during these days of a perpetual "war on terror" Ominously, in June 2007, National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell gained White House approval to update a 1981 presidential order on how US spy agencies operate. Potentially up for review in the highly secretive overhaul, referred to as Order 12333, is the topic of human experimentation A surge in US WMD spending The Bush administration has quietly channeled tens of billions of dollars into chemical and biological weapons. Bush's 2007 budget, for example, earmarked almost $2 billion for biodefense research and development via the National Institutes of Health alone Research aims are often dubious. In October 2005, for example, US scientists resurrected the 1918 Spanish flu, a virus which had killed almost 50 million people. And a virologist in St. Louis has been working on a more lethal form of mousepox (related to smallpox) just to try stopping the virus once it has been created Since the R&D is top secret and oversight limited, the public is rarely aware of escalating dangers. As of August 2007, for example, biological weapons laboratories across the country had reported 36 lost shipments and accidents for that year, almost double the number for all of 2004 In addition to challenging international non-proliferation agreements and risking a global arms race, the Bush administration's surge in chemical and biological weapons spending raises questions over what deadly weapons may have been tested on populations abroad. And what may be tested domestically, with or without the public's consent For Wray Forrest, the battle for government accountability continues: "On September 29, 2006, Congress passed a bill that will inform veterans exactly what they were exposed to, within the next two or three years. I can just see it now: They visit my grave site and post it on my tomb stone, in order to inform me of what I was exposed to and just what exposure caused me to die *** Wray Forrest and other veterans have put together a DVD on "how our Federal Government treated its troops at not only Edgewood Arsenal, but also at other military installations in the United States of America. " For a free copy, send a blank DVD+R and self-addressed postage paid DVD Envelope to: EDGEWOOD RESEARCH VETERAN, 3910 Patrick Drive Apt 14, Colorado Springs, Colorado 80916 A linked version of this article and corresponding youtube video are available at http://www.heatherwokusch.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dXDgoA2HJI
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Jag har varit skeptisk mot chemtrails, men det är färför man ofta hört det i samband med mindcontrol chemicals o bla bla bla. På senare tid har jag dock blivit mer och mer övertygad om att det faktiskt sker, och igår blev jag 100%.
Jag bor i Thailand och jag kollade på tv förra veckan och såg ett inslag om thailändska flygvapenets väder modifcations program. En lite propaganda piece typ om hur kungen, jordbruksdepartementet och flygvapnet fixar regn eller ser till att det inte regnar i för att hjälpa till med bättre risskördar. Jag såg bara slutet av programmet förra veckan och dom visade lite grejer hur dom nu bombar molnen. Det här är något jag känt till att t.ex kineserna har gjrot i flera år. Men det skapar ju inga chemtrails. Men igår så såg jag nästan hela programmet. Dom ahr hållit på sen 96 tror jag. Och dom visade filmer och bilder på flygplan som sprayade ut en tjock vit strimma bakom dom, och det här med att bomba molnen är något dom börjat med på senare tid. Jag kan tyvärr inte spela in programmet och har försökt hitta det på nätet men verkar inte finnas. Programmet e också på engelska. Jag har dock inte sett några chemtrails här men jag ska åka upp i norr och resa runt om någon månad eller nått, kommer säkert se det där. Så till alla skeptiker som påstår att det är contrails.... ni har blivit lurade. Det är antagligen ganska farliga grejer eftersom det hålls så jävla hemligt i väst. Så fort jag kan spela in programmet ska jag lägga upp det.
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Väderkontroll var väl nåt som USA sysslade med redan på 70-talet. De sprutade silverjodid på moln för att dessa skulle avge regn. Men jag tror det blev för dyrt, det kostade mer än det smakade.
Att det föreligger någon organiserad chemtrailkonspiration har jag svårt att tro. Om man tänker efter hur många som måste vara inblandade, i stort sett alla jordens länder, alla flygbolag. En sådan konspiration skulle inte fungera. Dessutom har jag svårt att tro, att det skulle bli någon större strimma öht om ett plan spridde ut ett torrt pulver i luften.  En vacker skön vinterdag då luftfuktigheten gjorde att kondensstrimmorna blev beständiga under lång tid.
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Du vet att det finns något som benämns chemtrail i regeringsdokument va?
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Vilket regeringsdokument?
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Saxat ur resolutionen:
Betraktas som exotiskt vapen ""(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as-- (i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons; (ii) chemtrails; OBS OBS OBS HÄR (iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems; (iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons; (v) laser weapons systems; (vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and (vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons."" ............................................................................................. Kucinich talks CHEMTRAILS From: Blue♥Sky♥Sunshine [RON PAUL '08] Date: Oct 16, 2007 11:19 AM Well - Yes I know this is old, by 5/6 years, but it shows that some people other than we "conspiracy" "nuts", aren't the only ones who know about chemtrails and their harm. Take a look. Wake up. BUT WAIT, there's more. Did someone take Kucinich aside and say - look - you are committing a no no. SO he took out "chemtrails" from the new bill he drafted. Yes he did. Why? Did he suddenly not believe. I doubt it. The technology available today means without a doubt complete control of our minds, hearts--in fact our very being. We must comprehend this reality. While we fiddle, America burns and the AGENDA marches on. We would be far wiser to acknowledge it---while we still can. While we still even know we can. Both Bills are below with an article added . . .read and believe. Rep. Kucinich's HR 2977 Names Chemtrails As An 'Exotic Weapon' Sponsor: Rep. Dennis Kucinich [D-OH](no cosponsors) Status: Introduced Oct 2, 2001 Last Action: Oct 2, 2001: Referred to House International Relations This bill never became law. Legislation > 2001-2002 (107th Congress) H.R. 2977 [107th]: Space Preservation Act of 2001 To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons. Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House) HR 2977 IH 107th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 2977 To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES October 2, 2001 Mr. KUCINICH introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Science, and in addition to the Committees on Armed Services, and International Relations, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A BILL To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the ..Space Preservation Act of 2001'. SEC. 2. REAFFIRMATION OF POLICY ON THE PRESERVATION OF PEACE IN SPACE. Congress reaffirms the policy expressed in section 102(a) of the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958 (42 U.S.C. 2451(a)), stating that it ..is the policy of the United States that activities in space should be devoted to peaceful purposes for the benefit of all mankind.'. SEC. 3. PERMANENT BAN ON BASING OF WEAPONS IN SPACE. The President shall-- (1) implement a permanent ban on space-based weapons of the United States and remove from space any existing space-based weapons of the United States; and (2) immediately order the permanent termination of research and development, testing, manufacturing, production, and deployment of all space-based weapons of the United States and their components. SEC. 4. WORLD AGREEMENT BANNING SPACE-BASED WEAPONS. The President shall direct the United States representatives to the United Nations and other international organizations to immediately work toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing a world agreement banning space-based weapons. SEC. 5. REPORT. The President shall submit to Congress not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and every 90 days thereafter, a report on-- (1) the implementation of the permanent ban on space-based weapons required by section 3; and (2) progress toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing the agreement described in section 4. SEC. 6. NON SPACE-BASED WEAPONS ACTIVITIES. Nothing in this Act may be construed as prohibiting the use of funds for-- (1) space exploration; (2) space research and development; (3) testing, manufacturing, or production that is not related to space-based weapons or systems; or (4) civil, commercial, or defense activities (including communications, navigation, surveillance, reconnaissance, early warning, or remote sensing) that are not related to space-based weapons or systems. SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS. In this Act: (1) The term ..space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space. (2)(A) The terms ..weapon' and ..weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following: (i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by-- (I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object; (II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object; (III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or (IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means. (ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)-- (I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B); (II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or (III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person. (B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as-- (i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons; (ii) chemtrails; (iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems; (iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons; (v) laser weapons systems; (vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and (vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons. (C) The term ..exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space. ~ ~ ~ Space Preservation Act of 2002 (Introduced in the House) HR 3616 IH 107th CONGRESS 2d Session H. R. 3616 To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by prohibiting the basing of weapons in space and the use of weapons to destroy or damage objects in space that are in orbit, and for other purposes. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES January 23, 2002 Mr. KUCINICH introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Science, and in addition to the Committees on Armed Services, and International Relations, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A BILL To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by prohibiting the basing of weapons in space and the use of weapons to destroy or damage objects in space that are in orbit, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the ..Space Preservation Act of 2002'. SEC. 2. REAFFIRMATION OF POLICY ON THE PRESERVATION OF PEACE IN SPACE. Congress reaffirms the policy expressed in section 102(a) of the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958 (42 U.S.C. 2451(a)), stating that it ..is the policy of the United States that activities in space should be devoted to peaceful purposes for the benefit of all mankind.'. SEC. 3. BAN ON BASING OF WEAPONS IN SPACE AND THE USE OF WEAPONS AGAINST OBJECTS IN SPACE IN ORBIT. The President shall-- (1) implement a ban on space-based weapons of the United States and the use of weapons of the United States to destroy or damage objects in space that are in orbit; and (2) immediately order the termination of research and development, testing, manufacturing, production, and deployment of all space-based weapons of the United States. SEC. 4. INTERNATIONAL TREATY BANNING SPACE-BASED WEAPONS AND THE USE OF WEAPONS AGAINST OBJECTS IN SPACE IN ORBIT. The President shall direct the United States representatives to the United Nations and other international organizations to immediately work toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing an international treaty banning space-based weapons and the use of weapons to destroy or damage objects in space that are in orbit. SEC. 5. REPORT. The President shall submit to Congress not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and every 6 months thereafter, a report on-- (1) the implementation of the ban on space-based weapons and the use of weapons to destroy or damage objects in space that are in orbit required by section 3; and (2) progress toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing the treaty described in section 4. SEC. 6. SPACE-BASED NONWEAPONS ACTIVITIES. Nothing in this Act may be construed as prohibiting the use of funds for-- (1) space exploration; (2) space research and development; (3) testing, manufacturing, or production that is not related to space-based weapons or systems; or (4) civil, commercial, or defense activities (including communications, navigation, surveillance, reconnaissance, early warning, or remote sensing) that are not related to space-based weapons or systems. SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS. In this Act: (1) The term ..space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space. (2) The terms ..space-based weapon' and ..space-based system' mean a device capable of damaging or destroying an object or person (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by-- (A) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object or person; (B) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object or person; (C) directing a source of energy against that object or person; or (D) any other undeveloped means. ~ ~ ~ Rep Kucinich Rewrites HR 2977 - 'Chemtrails' Disappear By Lorie Kramer seektress@ev1.net January 27, 2002 The "Space Preservation Act of 2001" originally introduced in the House by Rep. Dennis Kucinich as HR 2977 has been re-written. The new, revised bill, HR 3616, "Space Preservation Act of 2002" was introduced January 23, 2002. Re-writing bills is a common enough practice as a bill goes through the legislative process. However, the differences between HR 2977 and HR 3616 are more than just a few tweaks here or there. By its conspicuous appearance in 2977, the term 'chemtrails' received a form of credibiity within the official government process never seen before...producing the hope that one courageous Representative had finally had the fortitude to take the issue of chemtrails to a level of Congressional scrutiny long overdue. Even though chemtrails are sprayed/deployed in the 2-6 mile high range, and not the 60 mile altitude stated in 2977, the simple fact of their inclusion in Kucinich's 2977 list of weapons systems was deemed a major breakthrough by tens of thousands of citizens and researchers across the country who have been monitoring and investigating the spraying going on in the skies of America for the past three years. In Rep. Kucinich's revised new (some woud say 'emasculated') Bill, HR 3616, there is no longer any mention whatever of: * chemtrails, * particle beams * electromagnetic radiation * plasmas * extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation * or mind-control technologies as weapons systems covered in the measure. In fact, 'Exotic Weapons' - as boldly-stated in HR 2977 - are not even mentioned in HR 3616. So, what happened here? Did someone have a 'friendly chat' with Rep. Kucinich? Did the Congressman inhale a bit too much aluminum during his morning job? Did he look up one day and find himself standing under a big 'X' and feel his knees get a little wobbly? As stated in Kucinich's first version of his "Space Preservation Act of 2001" - "The term 'exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space." Apparently Rep. Kucinich is no longer concerned about the effects of the testing and use of exotic weapons systems on natural ecosystems and living organisms on the planet. Although chemtrails are no longer stated as a weapons system, or even mentioned in HR3616, the question of the components of the RFMP / VTRPE warfare system is raised. HR 3616 states - "To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by prohibiting the basing of weapons in space and the use of weapons to destroy or damage objects in space that are in orbit, and for other purposes." The intent of this passage remains fuzzy. Example: Are Imaging satellites used with the RFMP / VTRPE system broadly defined as part of a weapons system ? HR 3616 further states - "The terms 'space-based weapon' and 'space-based system' mean a device capable of damaging or destroying an object or person by directing a source of energy against that object or person." The word "directing" is clearly the key. Strictly speaking, the RFMP system does, by imaging, provide information to direct a source of energy against that particular object or person HR3616 also says - "4) civil, commercial, or defense activities (including communications, navigation, surveillance, reconnaissance, early warning, or remote sensing) that are not related to space-based weapons or systems." They could say the RFMP is not a weapon - it does not "fire a bullet," but it is part of a weapons system. There are clearly serious issues of definition in Kucinich's new Bill. It is conceivable that the RFMP / VTRPE weapons system may fall in the area covered by HR3616. It remains a mystery as to how the word 'chemtrails' appeared in HR 2977 to begin with. Investigation into that point is ongoing. Who actually is authoring the text of these bills? Why such an emphasis on "exotic weapons" in HR 2977 but then nothing mentioned about them in HR 3616? My call to Rep. Kucinich's Washington office last week was brief. I was told there had been "quite a few" calls regarding HR 2977. I was then told my questions should be directed to the person on the congressman's staff who handled that bill. I was then transfered to that person and received...big surprise...their voice mail service. I left a message with my contact information. No reply has been received to date. I will place a follow-up call again this week. We suggest others do the same. Even though the term 'chemtrails' has been removed from the revised bill, efforts to continue to educate and alert others about the chemtrail issue go on. Many thanks to those who have taken the time to contact their Congressional Representatives, keep it up. We still know what we see. We still didn't consent. We still want it stopped. Lorie Kramer Chem Trail Tracking USA[/quote]
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"Regeringsdokument" var väl ändå att ta i. Det där var en något förvirrad mnotion skriven av Eva Goës och Ragnhild Pohanka (mp). Men det var väl Miljöpartiet som lyckades få vattenvirvlare installerade i Riksdagshuset, så man kan ju inte begära allt för mycket av det partiet. Norrskenen i Texas är förstås intressant, får försöka leta vidare på det. Vid stora utbrott från solen så kan ju norrsken synas väldigt långt söderut även om det är sällsynt.
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Åter igen en debunkklassiker...från att ha handlat om chemtrail så glider vi över till att kommentera två förvirrade kvinnor, vattenvirvlare och utbrott på solen....  Men kommentar beträffande Dennis kusinich och USA dokumentet uteblev......jajaja så kan det gå om man sätter en halv gallonhatt på en pint...
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Det jag kommenterade var det sk "regeringsdokumentet" som någon hänvisade till och som det även fanns en länk till. I det hävdades att chemtrail hade skapat norrsken i Texas. Norrsken är något som brukar orsakas av utbrott på solen. Quote:
Helt enkelt därför att jag inte läst igenom det. Det fanns ingen länk eller källhänvisning till var det kom ifrån. "Saxat ur resolutionen" stod det bara. Vilken resolution? Innan man kommer med långa citat är det också bra att börja inlägget med nån kort förklaring om vad det handlar om.
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Det var saxat ur detta dokument....men det förstod du nog?
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Diskuteras på GCN nu http://www.gcnlive.com/Listen_Live.html
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Vad tjänar det till att dra upp detta avfärdade lagförslag från Kucinic igen... (som förmodligen knappt läste igenom det själv)
Ska vi ta detta förslag som nåt slags bevis att alla dessa "exotiska vapen" som man vill förbjuda används i verkligeten? Quote: So what really happened? In a nutshell, Kucinich did not write the bill (or read it, until too late), the focus of the bill is nothing to do with chemtrails, it was written by UFO enthusiasts trying to: Quote: Who wrote this? The original language for the bill was actually created by an organization called the “Institute For Cooperation In Space“, an organization whose primary purpose is to promote adoption of the Space Preservation Act. Quote: So what’s Kucinich’s involvement in this? It’s difficult to say. Kucinich is anti-war, so perhaps that’s his motivation. He does have a lot of new-age, UFO-believing, friends, but he’s also running for president. When he was made aware of the nature of the “exotic weapons” language in the bill, it was re-written, and when questioned about it, he said Quote: If you actually ARE a conspiracy theorist, then all this will come as little surprise to you. You will already believe the government is covering up technology based on crashed UFOs. Yet HR2977 is constantly being mentioned solely to make the case that “chemtrails” are something the government is aware of. The reality is that they were simply given a passing mention in bill written by new-age UFO conspiracy theorists and sponsored by an eccentric politician, all of who believe in things that are far more unusual than “chemtrails”. http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/ Vi har diskuterat detta tidigaer i den här tråden: http://vaken.se/modules/newbb/viewtop ... t_id=43928#forumpost43928
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Det finns nytt folk på sidan som frågade så vi var bara ödmjuka.... Passar det herrn? Men håll med om att det är kul att dom hittar på en massa nya ord som inte betyder något?
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Men du tycker inte det är lite magstarkt att kalla avfärdade lagförslag som en enskild kongressledamot skickat in för ett "regeringsdokument"?
Med den logiken så är väl ett brev du skickar till en minister lika mycket ett regeringsdokument. Det diarieförs osv.
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Du medger att det legat ett lagförslag om chemtrail? Var då lagförslaget för eller emot?
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Ja. Vad menar du att man kan dra för slutsatser av det?
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