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What caused this huge crater in the WTC 6 that went all the way down to its basement?
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Ground Zero EMT: " I tried to run into the lobby of 6 World Trade, but there were federal police... standing in the open doorways. As I tried to run in, they wouldn't let me, waving me out, telling me "you can't come in here, keep running." As I turned to start running west again, I saw a series of flashes around the ceiling of the lobby all going off one-by-one like the X-mass lights that "chase" in pattern... I immediately got the impression they were timed explosives. I have never thought they were anything else, not then, not now." - 9/11 Rescuer Saw Explosions Inside WTC 6 Lobby - killtown.blogspot.com

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/wtc6_5.html

Posted on: 2009/7/5 11:34
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Re: What caused this huge crater in the WTC 6 that went all the way down to its basement?
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Jag har hittat en till intervju med Patricia Ondrovic som du citerat gjord den 11 oktober 2001 och där är skildringen av samma händelse annorlunda.

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/ ... 2_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110048.PDF


I started running towards the West Side Highway, and there was
another building on the corner, I guess it was a federal building, cause it was all the green
and gray uniforms with the Smokey the Bear hats, the cops in there. I went to run in the
lobby cause all of a sudden you couldn't see anything. There was smoke, there was
debris, there was everything flying around. I ran into the lobby cause I had no idea what
had happened and the cops that were in there were telling everybody get out, get out, get
out. Where are you gonna go? Stuffs blowing up. So I ran back out and I started
running west again. At that point, there was a car on the corner of I think I was here at
that point, on the West Side Highway.


Det är lite oroande att samma person ger så olika versioner av samma händelse.

Posted on: 2009/7/6 18:48
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Re: What caused this huge crater in the WTC 6 that went all the way down to its basement?
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lunar skrev:
Jag har hittat en till intervju med Patricia Ondrovic som du citerat gjord den 11 oktober 2001 och där är skildringen av samma händelse annorlunda.

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/ ... 2_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110048.PDF


I started running towards the West Side Highway, and there was
another building on the corner, I guess it was a federal building, cause it was all the green
and gray uniforms with the Smokey the Bear hats, the cops in there. I went to run in the
lobby cause all of a sudden you couldn't see anything. There was smoke, there was
debris, there was everything flying around. I ran into the lobby cause I had no idea what
had happened and the cops that were in there were telling everybody get out, get out, get
out. Where are you gonna go? Stuffs blowing up. So I ran back out and I started
running west again. At that point, there was a car on the corner of I think I was here at
that point, on the West Side Highway.


Det är lite oroande att samma person ger så olika versioner av samma händelse.


Vad säger det om kratern som det handlade om...?

Posted on: 2009/7/6 21:51
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Re: What caused this huge crater in the WTC 6 that went all the way down to its basement?
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Det är lite oroande att samma person ger så olika versioner av samma händelse.


Det enda som är oroande är ditt sätt att tolka texter.

Han säger i båda intervjuerna att han hörde explosioner och att polisen sa till honom att gå därifrån. det enda han inte nämner i nytimes är att han såg blixtrar, det gör inte att versionen är annorlunda det är exakt samma bara det att han inte nämnde en detalj. Brandmän såg flera stycken blixtrar från dom lägre vångingarna precis innan WTC 1-2 kollapsa, som man hade gjort om det var en demolering.

Gregory Stephen vittna om "flashes" vid dom första våningarna innan kollapsen.

"Fitzpatrick and I ultimately came back to headquarters to try and get things together back at headquarters since everybody else was at the site, and that's basically it in a nutshell.

Q. Do you recall at any time, particularly when you were on West Street, any companies whose vehicles may have been parked near where you were?

A. No. I know I was with an officer from Ladder 146, a Lieutenant Evangelista, who ultimately called me up a couple of days later just to find out how I was. We both for whatever reason -- again, I don't know how valid this is with everything that was going on at that particular point in time, but for some reason I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before No. 2 came down, that I saw low-leve] flashes. In my conversation with Lieutenant Evangelista, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building, and I agreed with him because I thought -- at that time I didn't know what it was. I mean, it could have been as a result of the building collapsing, things exploding, but I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down.

Q.Was that on the lower level of the building or up where the fire was?

A. No, the lower level of the building. You know like when they demolish a building, how when they blow up a building, when it falls down? That's what I thought I saw. And I didn't broach the topic to him, but he asked me. He said I don't know if I'm crazy, but I just wanted to ask you because you were standing right next to me. He said did you see anything by the building? And I said what do you mean by see anything? He said did yc.u see any flashes? I said, yes, well, I thought it was just me. He said no, I saw them, too.
http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/ ... APHIC/Gregory_Stephen.txt

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Re: What caused this huge crater in the WTC 6 that went all the way down to its basement?
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gaston skrev:
Quote:

lunar skrev:
Jag har hittat en till intervju med Patricia Ondrovic som du citerat gjord den 11 oktober 2001 och där är skildringen av samma händelse annorlunda.

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/ ... 2_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110048.PDF


I started running towards the West Side Highway, and there was
another building on the corner, I guess it was a federal building, cause it was all the green
and gray uniforms with the Smokey the Bear hats, the cops in there. I went to run in the
lobby cause all of a sudden you couldn't see anything. There was smoke, there was
debris, there was everything flying around. I ran into the lobby cause I had no idea what
had happened and the cops that were in there were telling everybody get out, get out, get
out. Where are you gonna go? Stuffs blowing up. So I ran back out and I started
running west again. At that point, there was a car on the corner of I think I was here at
that point, on the West Side Highway.


Det är lite oroande att samma person ger så olika versioner av samma händelse.


Vad säger det om kratern som det handlade om...?


Vad säger det citat du hade om kratern?

Sedan finns det osäkerheter om denna krater då de sägs i din andra länk:

However, it does seem plausible that falling pieces from the breakup of the North Tower could have created the holes.

Jag håller med denna tolkning så länge.

Posted on: 2009/7/7 18:59
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Re: What caused this huge crater in the WTC 6 that went all the way down to its basement?
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lunar skrev:
Quote:

gaston skrev:
Quote:

lunar skrev:
Jag har hittat en till intervju med Patricia Ondrovic som du citerat gjord den 11 oktober 2001 och där är skildringen av samma händelse annorlunda.

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/ ... 2_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110048.PDF


I started running towards the West Side Highway, and there was
another building on the corner, I guess it was a federal building, cause it was all the green
and gray uniforms with the Smokey the Bear hats, the cops in there. I went to run in the
lobby cause all of a sudden you couldn't see anything. There was smoke, there was
debris, there was everything flying around. I ran into the lobby cause I had no idea what
had happened and the cops that were in there were telling everybody get out, get out, get
out. Where are you gonna go? Stuffs blowing up. So I ran back out and I started
running west again. At that point, there was a car on the corner of I think I was here at
that point, on the West Side Highway.


Det är lite oroande att samma person ger så olika versioner av samma händelse.


Vad säger det om kratern som det handlade om...?


Vad säger det citat du hade om kratern?

Sedan finns det osäkerheter om denna krater då de sägs i din andra länk:

However, it does seem plausible that falling pieces from the breakup of the North Tower could have created the holes.

Jag håller med denna tolkning så länge.


Beror liksom på vem som tittar på kratern och uttalar sig, vi har ju liksom sett att bilder kan tolkas olika beroende på tittarens tidigare erfarenheter....eller lojalitet....Vad säger du själv om kratern....?
Ser det urbrännt ut eller bara mosat..?

Posted on: 2009/7/8 6:34
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Re: What caused this huge crater in the WTC 6 that went all the way down to its basement?
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gaston skrev:

Beror liksom på vem som tittar på kratern och uttalar sig, vi har ju liksom sett att bilder kan tolkas olika beroende på tittarens tidigare erfarenheter....eller lojalitet....Vad säger du själv om kratern....?
Ser det urbrännt ut eller bara mosat..?


Varför skulle man spränga något så långt från WTC 1 och 2 när inte ens 1993 680 kg av sprängämnen i WTC 1 fick den att rasa?

Jag tycker hålet ser mosad ut och att Patricia Ondrovic ändrar sin berättelse så mycket sedan 2001 gör henne mindre trovärdig eller vad säger du för nu ska vi vara rättvisa så att inte de på vår motsida anses vara mindre trovärdiga om de ändrar sina berättelser.

För ska vi ha bättre bevis och därmed bli trovärdiga bland folk vi ska övertyga kan vi inte mäta vårt eget material med en måttstock och motsidans med en hela annan måttstock.

Så i denna fråga faller det mesta på just Patricia Ondrovic vars enda källa vi har till explosioner med sprängämnen inte nämnde det vid intervjun 2001.

Posted on: 2009/7/13 19:54
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