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Såg denna precis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsQWm6alAuU&feature=player_embedded Är normalt kluven till chemtrails, men denna fick mig att undra över dom tydliga mönstren som uppstått på en och samma plats (även där det inte borde vara en flygplats/-bas)
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A PLANE TRAIL OF DEADLY DECEPTION by trillion feat. Luca (The chemtrail song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUnVhgCVeZE&feature=player_embedded
Posted on: 2010/1/29 16:19
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NASA'S NEW CHEMCLOUD CHART ~ MASTERMINDED DECEPTION EXPOSED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7UuuEMWIoE http://www.operationmindseed.com/?p=2762
Posted on: 2010/1/29 22:09
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(NaturalNews) People of the world, the US Government is planning to poison more than two million people, in California, using an untested biological "pesticide" this summer. The chemical to be sprayed is classified by the EPA as a "pesticide" and the plan is to douse cities with this chemical designed to stick on everything for 90 days or longer. This application is not a one time event, but will continue every 1-3 months for as long as five years. The pesticide to be sprayed is not designed to harm the light brown apple moth's who it is designed for, but merely to confuse its mating habits. While harmless to moths, the pesticide has been documented to harm humans.
Forts.. http://www.naturalnews.com/022816_chemicals_health_EPA.html
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..För tydlighetens skull vill jag tillägga att det inte går att utesluta att militära intressen utför experiment som involverar att sprida partiklar från flygplan. Detta är då något helt annat då det i detta fall antagligen rör sig om någon form av metall man sprider för att störa radarbilderna över ett området.
Detta vore också det ett väldigt dyrt och väldigt ineffektivt sätt att störa radar, då metallerna snart landar på marken och metall som regel är dyrt, speciellt med tanke på de kvantiteter som skulle krävas. Titta gärna på aluminiumpriserna för dagen och ni inser snart att detta inte vore speciellt smart, särskilt inte att göra utan vidare dagligen. Kan tänka mig att detta har testats någon gång och att det sedan har blivit hype:at helt utav proportion av individer som inte har något bättre för sig. Att spridning av metalldamm skulle yttra sig som kvarliggande moln bakom flygplan är dock fruktansvärt osannolikt och okunnigt att påstå. |
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Vi som följt det sedan 1996 och läst allt som går att läsa om det är av en annan åsikt , men det är som i alla andra fall fullt tillåtet att ha en avvikande mening...
http://www.zshare.net/download/717133560e28fc42/
Posted on: 2010/2/6 23:39
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Jo, jag har förstått att det ligger till på det viset. Men, det jag inte förstår och skulle vilja ha svar på är exakt vad det är ni menar sprids från planen?
Som jag ser det finns det, som sagt, inge belägg för att kunna påstå att molnstrimmorna skulle bli kvar längre än tidigare bara för att det innehåller någon ny typ av ämne eller att molndropparna bildas kring en annan typ av kondensationspartiklar. I luften finns redan miljarders miljarder olika typer av partiklar som agerar som kondensationspartiklar. Detta till trots for molnen eller avgasstrimmorna inte olika egenskaper. Så varför skulle den partikel som ni nu påstås sprids göra att egenskaperna ändras? Ta tex det försurande regn som under slutet av förra seklet föll över stora delar av Sverige och bidrog till att många sjöar och vattendrag försurades. Att det regnet innehöll svavelföreningar påverkade inte molnens fysiska egenskaper i den mån att de löstes upp lättare/svårare eller på något annat sätt. En annan sak som talar mot att det skulle röra sig om någon sorts spridning av gift är att vi om spridningen skett under så lång till som det påstås borde ha fått en anrikning av dessa gifter i div rovdjur i naturen. Något sådant har i min vetskap inte skett. |
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Sven om du är nyfiken på sakfrågan så kan resultat från fågelräkningsstationerna de senaste 3 åren vara en väg att underska saken närmare...
Det går även att kontrollera vad Biodlare uppmärksammat...
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Du kan inte tänka dig att kort bara berätta vad det är ni tror händer? Vilka ämnen det rör sig om och vad det är som tyder på att de otaliga bilderna på avgaser från flygplan har med saken att göra?
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Tyvärr så finns inge Svenska undersökningar vilket gör att vi får förlita oss på andra källor... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okB-489l6MI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VLNNwiKvlE&feature=related
Posted on: 2010/2/7 16:24
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Tack!
Här är det ju dock osäkert vad källan till de förhöjda halterna av barium skulle vara. Dessutom är det osannolikt att tro att spridningen av barium skulle öka molnbildning eller ändra molnens fysiska egenskaper. Jag kan naturligtvis inte med säkerhet hävda att någon inte sprider farliga ämnen i luften av okända anledningar. Det jag främst menar är dock att blickarna med största säkerhet riktas åt fel håll. Avgaserna från flygplan har med stor säkerhet inte med spridningen av exempelvis då barium att göra. Det finns inga fysiska belägg att hänvisa till som säger att de kvardröjande molnstrimmorna på något sätt skulle ha med detta att göra, absolut inga. Snarare är det så som jag tidigare sa att dessa kvarliggande molnstrimmor beror på egenskaper hus luftpaketen där de uppstår, något som också stödjs av det faktum att de verkar uppstå lokalt i samma område. Vad jag har sett av de svenska påstådda observationerna av dessa trails finns det ingen som har observerat någon form av nedfall i samband att dessa trails. Något som också visar på ett icke-existerande samband mellan de kvarliggande molnstrimmorna och ett eventuellea spridande av giftiga ämnen. Det kan för allt i världen förekomma att någon spridit farliga saker i luften, men det har med 99 % säkerhet inte med det fenomen ni observerar och framhåller att göra. |
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Eftersom det råder delade meningar om detta så uppstår spekulationer så egentligen inte leder någonstans...
Därför kan man tycka att denna motion skulle tagits på allavar... Motion 1997/98:U416 Utredning om amerikansk rymdforskning MER INFORMATION Behandling av 1997/98:U416 Inga bilagor. Motion till riksdagen 1997/98:U416 av Eva Goës och Ragnhild Pohanka (mp) Utredning om amerikansk rymdforskning HAARP – High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program – eller fortsättning på Stjärnornas krig Rymden utforskas Istället så bordlades frågan efter 4 dagar Inlämnad: 19971006 Bordläggning: 19971010 Hänvisad: 19971010 Förslagspunkter att riksdagen som sin mening ger regeringen till känna vad i motionen anförts om att Sverige på internationell nivå skall begära en utredning om HAARPprojektet m.m. Betänkande: 1997/98:UU16 Utskottets förslag: avslag Kammarens beslut: =utskottet Undertecknare Eva Goës (mp) Ragnhild Pohanka (mp) Behandlas i betänkande Tolkningen av detta kan vara tvetydig och kanske rent vilseledande och det är därför som många av oss vill veta mer....att hävda att det inte händer tas inte på allvar kan jag påpeka.. Kan tillägga här att jag så sent som idag fick mail från Israeliska vänner om att det har börjat sprayats där också, något som är helt nytt för dom....
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Den officiella förklaringen av fenomenet har jag fått bekräftat från Regeringskansliet som 'Global Dimming': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_dimming
Hugo Chavez pratar om tektoniska vapensystem använt av USA: http://www.nowpublic.com/world/hugo-c ... -weapon-test-2560844.html Ryssar hävdar USAs inblandning i Tsunamin: http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/15035_tsunami.html En annan site: http://www.weatherwars.info/ Hur forna Sovjet använde sig av Cloudseeding för att undvika att Tjernobylmolnet inte nådde Moskva; 'How we made the Chernobyl rain' By Richard Gray Published: 12:01AM BST 22 Apr 2007 Russian military pilots have described how they created rain clouds to protect Moscow from radioactive fallout after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster in 1986. Major Aleksei Grushin repeatedly took to the skies above Chernobyl and Belarus and used artillery shells filled with silver iodide to make rain clouds that would "wash out" radioactive particles drifting towards densely populated cities http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/world ... e-the-Chernobyl-rain.html
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Måste bara få fråga när "problemet" kom till ytan?
Alltså när hela idéen om Chemtrails lyftes fram. Har alltid undrat varför flygplanen får avgaser som ligger kvar så länge och chemtrails gav ännu mer frågetecken av någon anledning. Enlight me =)
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Natural cloud formations is Las Vegas...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMpObwggyKI Så här formas naturliga moln, de har inget med flygplan att göra.....
Posted on: 2010/3/6 10:21
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Här är lite fler videor ni bör se.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXn4tVpgeHk (2 chemtrail plan, men vad är det mellan dem?) och dessa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcuXyNY1XXY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCM7dXCvhzo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enxcnnUz9IU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPMGUk4Umjg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IZUfszhK7o Kanske är detta en typ av laserstyrning? Alltså planen är utan piloter. En gammal film. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IaJwpdpEWY
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Creation of artificial ionization clouds above the earth
http://patft.uspto.gov/ http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Pa ... =PN/4999637&RS=PN/4999637 Abstract A method for forming a cloud of artificial ionization above the earth by initially heating the resident plasma at a desired altitude with electromagnetic radiation having a frequency approximately the same as that of the ambient plasma. As the plasma frequency increases due to heating, the radiation frequency is also increased until the final maintenance frequency is attained. U.S. Patent Documents 3133250 May 1964 Molmud 3174150 January 1965 Sferrazza et al. 3189901 June 1965 Cutolo 3300721 January 1967 Seaton 3445844 May 1969 Grossi et al. 3518670 June 1970 Miller 3882393 May 1975 Epstein 4035726 July 1977 Brice et al. 4686605 August 1987 Eastlund 4712155 December 1987 Eastlund et al.
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Military Said Behind Up To Four Different Chemtrail Programs EXCLUSIVE TO THE SPOTLIGHT By Mike Blair 6-21-1 Just what exactly are those mysterious airplane vapor trails seen filling America's skies? A group of independent investigators may have the answer. In a series of high-tech programs that would enthrall the most dedicated science fiction fans, the military is producing what have become known as "chemtrails" -- the thick, viscous airplane engine trails that have been poisoning the air and ground with toxic chemicals. For two years, The SPOTLIGHT has been in contact with experts in fields ranging from medicine to nuclear energy who have been investigating the mysterious trails left by airplanes in skies all over America and in many foreign countries. These "tracks" in the skies, believed to be left by a combination of military and civilian aircraft drawn into the massive, multi-billion dollar program, are unlike regular high-flying aircraft's vapor trails. Instead of dissipating rapidly, these so-called "chemtrails" mesh together for hours and are often mistaken for natural clouds. The principal chemical being deposited in the air consists of various mixtures of barium salts, which were revealed in studies undertaken by a Pennsylvania-based high-tech weapons scientist. Chemicals, he said, were being utilized as part of the development of a new radar system at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio. The base will be the site of a public demonstration on Saturday, June 23, starting at 1 p.m. under the sponsorship of Ohio Citizens Against Chemtrails, headed by Kim Weber, one of the citizens working on the chemtrail investigation. The rally will be attended by hundreds of people from across the nation who are concerned about these poisons being dumped out of the sky onto millions of people on the ground. Considerable effort has been put into chemtrail research by a physicist who has been associated with Brookhaven National Laboratory on Long Island, N.Y. The scientist, with his fellow researchers, has determined that the chemtrails are being created by efforts of the military in at least four major, but separate, projects. The first project is an effort to block the rays of the sun from hitting the Earth, including ultra-violet radiation that will come through without an adequate layer of ozone in the upper regions above the Earth. In the event of global warming, this, it is hoped, could lower temperatures on the surface of the Earth and block ultra-violet radiation from causing skin cancer in humans. The aerosol being sprayed in this case is probably aluminum oxide or a compound that would have similar properties, and is the only one of the government programs that does not use the barium mixtures. BLACK PROJECTS? The second and most secret project is the Navy's Radio Frequency Mission Planner (RFMP) program, which is a system encompassing a group of computer programs. One of its supporting subprograms is know as Variable Terrain Radio Parabolic Equation or VTRPE. This is a computer radio frequency propagation program that deals with radio waves and enables the RFMP system to visually see the terrain of a battlefield in three dimensions on a television-type screen. The RFMP system also depends on a satellites to supplement the images of a battlefield picture obtained from the ground, thus producing the 3-dimensional images. In providing an interactive picture portraying in the radar screen, the RFMP system allows the computer operator to develop familiarity with the "environment" before a war mission occurs by playing a variety of "what if?" virtual warfare scenarios on his computer screen. Since all major modes of radio frequency propagation are modeled in his computer (the RFMP system), special, sometimes counter-intuitive, cases can be examined in detail and exploited during a battle. Initially, the VTRPE computer program only worked accurately over water and along coastal areas but not over land masses because the system's radar waves required an atmospheric condition known as "ducting," over land, to operate accurately. This "ducting" problem was solved by releasing an aerosol, a mixture of barium salts into the atmosphere over the United States. Thus, they can make an atmospheric radio frequency "duct" with a base of barium aerosol released from aircraft. One of the researchers, the physicist from Brookhaven, explained how the process works: The chemical and electrical characteristics of the mixture cause moisture to stay in the clouds. The aerosol sets up an electrical and chemical environmental that supports RF ducting for the RFMP/VTRPE warfare system."The mixture of barium salt from the aerosol when sprayed in a straight line will also provide a ducting path form point A to point B and will enable high frequency communications along that path, even over the curvature of the Earth, in both directions," he said. "Enemy high frequency communications can be monitored easier with the straight line A to B ducting medium." The third project also utilizes the mixture of barium salts in the atmosphere and involves weather control. It is a project of the AIR Force and utilizes concepts of radio frequency radiation, developed originally by legendary scientist Nikola Tesla, against the ionosphere above the Earth. Known as the so-called HAARP project, it is manipulating life-support systems in the environment, testing and altering them for military advantage. Air Force documents, obtained by the independent researchers, indicate that "the risks are high but the rewards are worth it." The mixture of barium salts, supporting moisture, is administered along the weather fronts and manipulated in a controlled fashion. It is believed that microwave energy is also utilized in the weather control program. Weather data is also a required input to the VTRPE program of the RFMP system. Perfect weather control technology will enable the military to withhold rain, cause floods, cause drought, cause storms, withhold sunshine, damage food crops, and bring any country to its knees without firing a shot. The fourth atmospheric project is being run by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) as a means to detect and decontaminate enemy biological attacks. The program also utilizes a mixture of barium salts as the base vehicle in aerosol, along with special polymer fibers. The combination allows detection of biological agents. Some biological agents have actually been released into the atmosphere in trials, testing the detection and decontamination systems. It is believed that barium salt, polymer fibers and other chemicals in the atmosphere are the physical irritants that may be directly or indirectly responsible for unexplained nose bleeds, asthma, allergies, pneumonia, upper respiratory ailments and arthritis-like systems. Chemicals sprayed into the atmosphere are producing air and ground conditions that may be harmful to humans and animals, while stimulating the growth of molds and bacteria. Barium salts, an Earth metal, are toxins that absorb readily into the gastrointestinal tract which are deposited into muscles and other tissue. No case data is available on the long-term effects of barium in humans. "The programs remain secret because the Environmental Protection Agency and state environmental agencies need 'not know' about the by-products of the metabolites of these biological, illegal and harmful agents," said one of the researchers. "It's for that reason the combined projects have been kept secret from the citizens." _____ Jet Trails Tested In Combat Scenarios The U.S. military is testing high-tech, experimental equipment in the eastern United States. EXCLUSIVE TO THE SPOTLIGHT By Mike Blair Three-dimensional radar systems, such as the Navy's top secret Variable Terrain Radio Parabolic Equation (VTRPE) program, which visualize the terrain of a battlefield on a television-type screen, are being developed through spreading chemtrails across the nation's skies and are being field tested in the military exercises across the country. The latest, which the Pentagon is calling "Joint Patriot 01," is under way at Fort Drum, a military base outside of Watertown, N.Y. Exercises will run through June 30. Centered at Fort Drum, the home of the Army's elite 10th Mountain Division, the military is also utilizing facilities at Combat Readiness Training Centers at Volk Field, Wisc., Alpena, Mich., and Utah's Dugway Proving Grounds. "Concurrently, the exercise permits testing of advanced command and control technology developed by the Air Force Research Laboratory, Rome, N.Y., research site," a Pentagon spokesman said. "Numerous technologies will be field tested, including command and control systems, dynamic planning and targeting systems, sensor systems, and specialized next-generation communications systems." The Air Force Research Laboratory at Rome, located in Central New York about 75 miles from Fort Drum, used to be part of Griffiss Air Force Base, a Strategic Air Command B-52 bomber base. In 1982, the air base was closed down and the top secret laboratory was the only Air Force facility retained. The lab was enhanced and its mission scope increased. Little is known about what goes on there, but it is known that the scientists there are developing military technology involving lasers. In the mid-1990s, a local sensation was created in the vicinity of Rome when numerous residents reported seeing bizarre "balls of light" traveling at treetop level. Many believed the phenomena were created at the Air Force laboratory. The Pentagon claims that the maneuvers at Fort Drum are "a war-fighting capability training exercise for more than 6,000 Air and Army National Guard members and elements from the Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps, and allied reserve forces from Britain and the Netherlands." In a similar drill, not reported in the media, 26,000 military personnel on March 20 took part in a massive exercise, which involved a Navy battle group headed by the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise 200 miles off the coast of North Carolina. In the drill, Eastern North Carolina was "enemy territory" and the VTRPE system was used to keep surveillance on it. Exercises at Fort Drum and North Carolina may have been assisted by Air Force-induced weather changes. > http://www.rense.com/general11/chmmill.htm
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European Parliament: question on aircraft condensation trails which no longer only contain water Strasbourg, France - By Erik Meijer (GUE/NGL) (WAPA) - "Written question E-2455/07 by Erik Meijer (GUE/NGL) to the Commission Subject: aircraft condensation trails which no longer only contain water but cause persistent milky veils, possibly due to the presence of barium, aluminium and iron 1) Is the Commission aware that, since 1999, members of the public in Canada and the USA have been complaining about the growing presence in the air of aircraft condensation trails of a new type, which sometimes persist for hours and which spread far more widely than in the past, creating milky veils which are dubbed 'aerial obscuration', and that the new type has particularly come to people's attention because it is so different from the short, pencil-thin white contrails which have been a familiar sight ever since jet engines came into use and which remain visible for 20 minutes at most and can only be produced if steam condenses on dust particles due to low temperatures and high humidity? 2) Is the Commission aware that investigations by these complainants, observations by pilots and statements by government bodies increasingly suggest that what is happening is that aircraft are emitting into dry air small particles consisting of barium, aluminium and iron, a phenomenon which in public debate in America has come to be known as chemtrails? 3) Unlike contrails, chemtrails are not an inevitable by-product of modern aviation. Does the Commission know, therefore, what is the purpose of artificially emitting these Earth-derived substances into the Earth's atmosphere? Does it help to cause rain, benefit telecommunications or combat climate change? 4) To what extent are aerial obscuration and chemtrails now also being employed in the air over Europe, bearing in mind that many people here too are now convinced that the phenomenon is becoming increasingly common and are becoming concerned about the fact that little is so far known about it and there is no public information on the subject? Who initiates this spraying and how is it funded? 5) Apart from the intended benefits of emitting substances into the air, is the Commission aware of any possible disadvantages it may have for the environment, public health, aviation and TV reception? 6) What is being done to prevent individual European states or businesses from taking measures unilaterally whose crossborder impact other States or citizens' organisations may regard as undesirable? Is coordination already taking place with regard to this? Is the EU playing a part in it, or does the Commission anticipate a future role, and what are the Commission's objectives in this connection?". (Avionews) (006)
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CHEMTRAILS NO LONGER A CONSPIRACY ITS FACT "GOVERNMENT REPORT 128 PAGE PDF FILE"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyKA69G2cMo&feature=related
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Den som har sett en flyguppvisning har i många år kunnat glädja sig åt de glada färgerna som uppstår när planen har olika kemikalier som sprutas in i motorerna under manövrarna. Blått, rött, lila, vitt och så vidare i långa banor.
Själv har jag testat bor i en gammal Saab som fick röda avgaser! Det finns alltså en fredlig användning också...
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"Använd skallen, Nollan! Om inte vi kan se dom, hur fan skall dom kunna se oss???" (Knasen, 1967)
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Fotade lite chemtrails idag. Det var full fart, hela västra mälardalen ända bort till Enköping.
http://gryningensljus.blogspot.com/20 ... ens-foton-chemtrails.html Har bilderna i högupplösning (förutom närbilden på flygplanet) om någon vill ha...
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