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Men hallå nu va!!!

OSPA skrev att han hade en syssling som jobbade inom BA, INTE att han själv gjorde det. Detta har OSPA även upprepat förra gången du fattade fel, ändå så fortsätter du att fatta fel!? Vad är ditt problem??

Felet är att du är samma person.
Du är bara förmycket.

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Menar du att jag är OSPA ??


Nej, jag har redan skrivit i flera gånger att jag inte är OSPA.

Det du nu gör börjar likna personangrepp och falska anklagelser. Kan vänligen någon Admin upplysa om att jag inte har samma IP-nummer som OSPA och några till jag anklagats att vara, och säga till att det får vara ett slut på alla dessa anklagesler stup i kvarten.

De användarnamn jag har använt tidigare har jag redan redovisat på detta forum och till Admin.

Lägg av med detta trams nu!!

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Då är det upp till dig att bevisa var någontans jag skrivit att jag är pilot på BA!
Varsegod.

Personangrepp är säkert skoj på många sätt men jag är fortfarande mer intresserad av om ni anser att det är den rapporterade höjden, farten, tiden eller flygvägen som inte stämmer?

Ursäkta att jag tjatar så här på en lördagmorgon ;)

Ok. Skit i hastighet, höjd och fart. Den ene kan inte bevisa för den andre att han/hon har rätt. Bevisen tycks flöda från båda hållen men båda parter förkastar den andras teori/vetenskap. Ganska uppenbart vad som pågår. Hur är det med ögonvitnen som brandmänn, media och anställda på wtc som raporterar om explosioner. Ljuger dom? Rättsväsendet som jag förstår det, lägger stor vikt på ögonvitnen. Speciellt om det är flera som vittnar om samma sak. Och för att inte tala om bevismaterialet som alltid tas till vara på vid en brottsutredning. Och när har vi sett en brottsutredning påbörjas ett år efter den aktuella händelsen?
Trevlig helg Alla.

jocce skrev:
"Personangrepp är säkert skoj på många sätt men jag är fortfarande mer intresserad av om ni anser att det är den rapporterade höjden, farten, tiden eller flygvägen som inte stämmer?

Ursäkta att jag tjatar så här på en lördagmorgon ;)"


Nä, det som inte stämmer i den här frågan är väl ungefär 1000 andra saker som t.ex:

Varför NORAD stod nere och inte rörde en fena på en timme trots att 4 plan var kapade?

Varför FEMA, CIA och USA:s miltär hade terrorövningar samma dag i händelse att terrorister skulle flyga plan in i byggnader?

Varför USA:s president lyssnar på sagor när han vet att landet är under attack?

Varför USA:s vicepresident INTE beordrar nedskjutning av ett plan som är på väg mot pentagon?

Varför flera varningar utgick till personer i höga positioner om att inte flyga morgonen den 11 september varav en av uppringningarna är spårade till utrikesminister Condolezza Rice kontor?

Varför ingen av de 19 kaparna fanns med på passagerarlistorna?

Varför troende muslimer super och går på strippklubb dagen innan de ska utföra tidernas mest spektakulära attentat i Allahs namn?

Hur de kan lyckas styra dessa plan med sådan precision in i byggnader dagen efter detta festande efter att de övermannat personalen och ska till att utföra tidernas mest spektakulära attentat när de av flera flyglärare klassats som usla eller i bästa fall mediokra piloter när de övade på cessnas?

Varför Mohammad Atta lämnade sitt körkort kvar i en hyrd bil?

Hur man kunde identifiera alla 19 kapare 2 dagar efter atacken?

Hur fler av de så kallade kaparna dykt upp levande efteråt?

Hur Bush kunde se det första planet köra in i WTC när det inte visades på TV förrän dagen efter 11 september?

Hur USA:s flotta "råkade" ligga utanför Afghanistans kust vid tiden för 911?

Hur det kommer sig aldrig tidigare eller senare har byggnader med stålkonstruktioner kollapsat av bränder?

Hur byggnad 7 kunde kollapsa trots att den inte träffades av något plan?

Plus de här:

1.Why didn't jets intercept the airliners since they had numerous warnings of terrorist attacks?
2. Why did Ashcroft stop flying commercial, citing an unidentified "threat" in July 2001?
3. Why were there no photos or videos of the Pentagon plane?
4. Why didn't the Secret Service hustle Dubya out of the classroom?
5. Where was George H. W. Bush at the time of the attacks?
6. Why did passengers or crewmembers on three of the flights all use the term boxcutters?
7. Where are the flight recorders?
8. Why were the FISA warrants discontinued?
9. How did Bush see the first plane crash on live camera?
10 Why was security meeting scheduled for 9/11cancelled by WTC management on 9/10?
11. How did they come up with the "culprits" so quickly?
12. How did they find the terrorist's cars at the airports so quickly?
13. Why did Shrub dissolve the Bin Laden Task Force?
14. Why the strange pattern of debris from Flight 93?
15. Why was no plane seen at the Pentagon?
16. How extensive was the relationship between the Taliban, the ISI and the CIA?
17. What exactly was the role of Henry Kissinger at UNOCAL?
18. When was it decided to cancel building a pipeline from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to Pakistan?
19. When was the decision made to send the FEMA to New York?
20. Why did FEMA spokesman Tom Kenney tell Dan Rather he was in New York on Sept. 10?
21. Why did the FBI in 1996 close the files to investigate Osama bin Laden's relatives in Washington?
22. Why did .Bush stop inquiries into terrorist connections of the Bin Laden family in early 2001?
23. Who made the decision to have John O'Neill stop investigating Al-qeada accounts?
24. Who gave the decision to give him a security job at the World Trade Center?
25. Did John O'Neill meet anyone of the FEMA in the night of September 10th?
26. What about media reports that hijackers bought tickets for flights scheduled after Sept. 11?
27. Why did none of the 19 hijackers appeared on the passenger lists?
28. Why would devout Muslims frequent bars, drink alcoholic beverages and leave their bibles?
29. Why would the hijackers use credit cards and allow drivers licenses with photos to be zeroxed?
30. Why did the hijackers force passengers to call relatives?
31. How did the hijackers change the flight plan without law enforcement or the military try to stop them?
32. Which hijacker's passport was found in the WTC rubble? Who found it and what time?
33. How could the FBI distinguish between "regular" Muslims and hijacker Muslims on those flights?
34. Why was there not one "innocent" Muslim on board any of these flights?
35. Did someone go through the passenger lists looking for Muslim names and label them as hijackers?

MOHAMMED ATTA
36. Did the Florida police provide information that Atta was searched because of 1)an expired Visa, 2) driving a car without a license, 3) because of an incident at Miami Airport?
37. Why did Atta leave his bag at the airport and the employees didn't put it on board?
38. Who found his bag? How can we be sure it it was his bag?
39. Why did Atta place a video "how to fly planes", a uniform and his last will into his bag, knowing that he would commit suicide?
40. Why did Atta leave his drivers license in a rental car?
41. When did Atta train on a flight simulator?
42. Did Atta leave the US while in training and then return?
43. Why did Atta decide to study at Opa Locka, a famous hub of 6 Navy training bases and includes government partners like U. S. Coast Guard Air Station, Police (Miami-Dade) Aviation Unit?
44. Why was Atta allowed to study since he was stopped by the police for driving without a license and also for violating his visa?

THE BLACK BOXES AND CRASH VIDEO
45. Why were the Black Boxes never recovered ?
46. Why didn't the FBI release the air traffic controller's protocols?
47. Why did the FBI not release the Flight Data Recorder info?
48. Who video-recorded the first plane hitting the tower? Why did he disappear from the media?

THE HIJACKERS
49. How did the FBI receive a tip from a passenger who boarded a different plane and reached his destination safely that he had a confrontation with two ME men at the Logan airport in Boston?
50. Who tipped the FBI to storm the Westin Hotel in Boston on September 12th?
51. Where did the photos of all 19 hijackers come from?
52. How were all hijackers identified just 2 days after the attack?
53. Why did all 19 names not appear on the passenger list 2 days after the hijacker list was released?
54. Why do none of the names appear on the passenger lists UA and AA gave to CNN?
55. How could the hijackers disable the defense systems?
56. Why did the FBI ignore Bin Laden's family, who left the United States without further investigation
57. What about the supposed hijackers who are still alive?
58. Was there a reason to change the list of the original 19 hijackers?
59. What happened to Ayub Ali Khan and Mohammed Jaweed Azmath, who have been in jail since September 2001, because of possession of box cutters on a train? Who gave the tip to arrest them?
60. Why did it take 4 months before Ramsi Binalschibhs name was mentioned, since he was a good friend of Mohammad Atta and lived in his apartment in Hamburg?
61. Why did it take 4 months until December 11 to charge Zacarias Moussaoui for the 9/11 attacks when his case was known worldwide for months, but not mentioned in the American media?
62. Whatever happened with Lotfi Raissi, who was arrested in UK for teaching the terrorist pilots?
63. What is the current status of the investigation of Mamoun Darkazanli Import-Export Company in Hamburg and Al Taqwa Management Organisation in Lugano?
64. Why was Richard Reid able to enter the Paris airport twice and who paid for his hotel?
65. Who hired Zacarias Masspoui to learn how to fly passenger jets in the United States?
66. Why did the FBI or CIA fail to interrogate him between August and December 2001?

BIN LADEN
67. Did the CIA monitor Bin Laden in 1998 with the help of 15 Afghan agents, paid $1,000/ month?
68. Where are these agents? Was Johnny "Mike" Spann one? Was John Walker Lindh one?
69. Is an Afghan agent a member of the ISI? Is an Afghan agent working for Bin Laden?
70. When was the first time Tenet mentioned the Al-Quaeda group to any member of the Senate?
71. Why did the Pentagon release a new video version or translation of the Bin Laden Home video?
72. Why it was released only 8 hours after translation by the German magazine MONITOR on December ?
73. Why were the four translators prior US-Government workers?
74. When was the Bin Laden Home Video found and who found it?
75. Who found the video if Northern Alliance and US troops had not yet arrived in Kandahar or Jahalabad?
76. Does the timestamp on the Bin Laden video indicate that it was found two weeks after it was produced?
77. Why was the public not informed who found the video and when?
78. Why according to MONITOR magazine, were the most controversial statements translated incorrectly?
79. Why was the video released?
80. Who gave the final decision to release it?
81. Why is the Bin Laden video of June 2001 in which he praised the attack, available on the Internet?
82. What about Bin Laden's statements on Al-Jazeera in June 2001 about the bombing of USS Cole, which are similar to the statements on the November 2001 home video?
83. Why did Bin Laden state in Umman Magazine in Sept. 2001, that he was not involved in the WTC?
84. Is Bin Laden still on the payroll of the CIA or ISI?
85. Did the Bin Laden Group Inc. help build ToraBora with the CIA?
86. What was the purpose of the meeting with General Pervez Musharraf in May 2001?
87. Why was a statement released that Al-Khalifa bin Laden, who is not the mother of Bin Laden, had a telephone call with Bin Laden on September 9, rather than Alia Ghanem, his mother? Why did Alia Ghanem say she did not believe he planned the attack?

ANTHRAX AND MICROBIOLOGIST DEATHS
100. What happened on September 18th, when an employee of Batelle Memorial Institute was involved in a so-called anthrax hoax on that day? Was he arrested?
101. Why did the investigation of that case begin in December 2001?
102. What was in the memo of Dr. Leonard Horowitz, a public health consumer advocate and author of "Death in the Air" on October 1, 2001, almost two weeks before the first anthrax letter was sent from Trenton to the American media building in Boca Raton?
103. What about his letter of Nov. 13 in which he claimed that BAYER is behind the anthrax infections?
104. Did US BioDefense laboratories send the anthrax-laced letters to get a new budget for research?
105. What about the statement of former UN-weapons inspector of Iraq, Richard Spertzel, who told ABC, "... he knows only five scientists in the USA who would be in the situation to produce such a fine, highly developed spore material"?
106. Why did it take 48 hours to inform Bob Stevens that he had anthrax?
107. Why were envelopes never found near Bob Stevens, Amelie Lundgren and Mia Nguyen?
108. How come Microsoft got a hoax anthrax letter from Malaysia on the same day that President Bush said Malaysia might be one of the next targets of the United States?
109. Why did the FBI never investigate the case Don Wiley, a Bioscientist who disappeared 11/13/01?
110. Why did the FBI begin to investigate after his body was found on December 22, 300 miles away? Was there an investigation at the military hydro plant where workers found him? Why did the media write different versions about how, when and where he was found? Why did the police report change 2 months later from suicide to an accident?
111. What was the goal of Bioport in 1997?
112. Did development of anti-anthrax vaccines begin in 1998?
113. When did Bioport decide to produce anthrax vaccines?
114. Was it before or after Sept. 1998 that Admiral Crowe was put in charge of investigations of the August 7, 1998 bombings of Embassy Nairobi and Embassy Dar Es Salaam?
115. Did the schedule for developing anti-anthrax vaccines begin starting in 1998?
116. When did the US Government ask Bayer for help in developing a vaccine?
117. When did Bayer start sending the vaccines to the U. S.?
118. When did Bayer double production of the vaccines?
119. Was the death of Vladimir Pasechnik investigated? He was former director of the Institute of Ultra Pure Biochemical Preparations of the Soviet bio-warfare establishment Biopreparat in November 2001?
120. How are the deaths of scientists Robert M. Schwartz, Dr. Benito Que and Set Van Nguyen explained since all occurred in the same month? Is Set van Nguyen related to the anthrax victim Mia Nguyen?
121. What about the death of Nancy Sonnenfeld (FEMA-Wife)?
122. Why was the NJ Division of Fish and Wildlife examining Anthrax in August 2000?
123. Do any employees in Trenton have the same handwriting as printed on the Anthrax envelopes?
124. Is it just a coincidence that the laboratory is also based in Trenton?
125. Did the FBI ever ask Fort Detrick to examine anthrax spores?
126. What about the list of 15-20 labs (maintained by Barbara Rosenzweig) who used Fort Detrick spores?
127. Does the CIA have spores different from those at Fort Detrick?
128. Why did Tommy Thompson, The Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, and other Bush cabinet members meet secretly (i. e. illegally) in Oct. 2001 with officials of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America
(PhRMA) to develop plans for their Emergency Preparedness Task Force?
129. Why did he decide on October 25, 2001 to ask Congress for another $500 million to produce Acambis's smallpox vaccine?
130. Why did it take 4.5 hours until Jean Marie Malecki , Director Palm Beach County Health Department, picked up the phone for employees of the AMI-Building, Boca Raton. This is where editor Bob Stevens got anthrax. Why did she wait two days before she visited that building again?
131. Did Walter Gilbert, Director Myriad Genetics ever get official permission from relatives of those killed at WTC to examine their DNA?

FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES
150. Why did General Mahmud Ahmad, former head of the ISI quit his position?
151. Why did retaliation against the Taliban begin the day he stepped down?
152. Who in the ISI paid $100.000 to Mohammad Atta?
153. Why does Ahmad think that another secret service was involved in the WTC attack? Which Secret Service was he referring to? Did other ISI official's believe that? Did officials of the CIA believe that? Did some officials of the Mossad believe that?
154. What was the purpose of Ahmad's visit to Washington on 9/11?
155. Who told Russian Foreign Minister Ivanov to abort an air strike against Afghanistan in May 2000?
156. Did Russian intelligence notify the CIA in 2001 that 25 terrorist pilots had been training for suicide missions, as reported in the Russian press?

KISSINGER
1. What did Kissinger mean that an "outside threat from beyond", a "world government" and "individual rights" that are "willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted", what you mentioned in 1991 on a Bilderberg Conference?
2. What was his role at UNOCAL?
3. Is he in contact with representatives of these companies or institutions:
4. What did he discuss at the Bilderberg meeting last year in May 2001?
5. What was the purpose of his meeting with Moscow Mayor Yuri Luzhkov in July 2001?
6. Why does he write in "Toward a New Diplomacy for the 21st Century" that America doesn't need a Foreign Policy?
7. When was the last time Henry Kissinger met US-Ambassador in Pakistan, Robert Oakley?

THE PURCHASE OF AIRLINE PUT OPTIONS
1. Is it true that the CIA is in possession of PROMIS software?
2. What is the purpose of PROMIS?
3. Did A. B. "Buzzy" Krongard, CIA, own any stocks of United Airlines, American Airlines, Merrill Lynch, 4. Morgan Stanley, AXA Re (insurance) which owns 25% of American Airlines, and Munich Re.?
5. What is his connection to Alex Brown, Deutsche Bank?
6. Did he give any insider information about to George Tenet, CIA?
7. Who was the investor who purchased 2,000 UAL put options between August and September 11, 2001?
8. Did Deutsche Bank-Alex Brown own any stocks of UA, AA, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, AXA Re (insurance) which owns 25% of American Airlines, and Munich Re?
9. What about the 2,500 UA-contracts which were "split into 500 chunks each, directing each order to different U. S. exchanges around the country simultaneously." on August 10, 2001?
10. Did Deutsche purchase UAL options in August 2001?
11. Why did DB-AB purchase 4,744 put options on United Air Lines stock as opposed to only 396 call s on September 6-7? What was the purpose of doing that?
12. What is the connection to Wally Kromgaard?
13. Did Deutsche Bank or Wally Kromgaard purchase
4,516 put options on American Airlines as compared to
748 call options on September 10?
14. What was the reason of Mayo Shattuck III re-asssignment on September 15th?

THE TALIBAN AND THE CARPET OF GOLD..
1. When was the last time they met any representatives of the US-Government?
2. What was the purpose of these meetings?
3. Do the Taliban know Karl E. Inderfurth and State Department counterterrorism chief Michael Sheehan?
4. Do they know which US-Representative said in February 2001: "Either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs"?
5. When was the last time the Taliban was in touch with this representative?
6. Did Abdul Haq, the former Mujahedin leader executed Sept 2001 by the Taliban, decide in Winter 2000 to attack the Taliban?
7. Did production of opium in Afghanistan fall from 3276 tonnes in 2000 to 185 tonnes in 2001?

GLOBAL HAWK TECHNOLOGY
1. Was Global Hawk technology able to remotelycontrol unmanned planes in 1999 for 27 hours?
2. Did Northrop-Grumman use Global Hawk technology in the war in Afghanistan since October 2001?
3. What is the purpose of unmanned technology?
4. Is Northrup in contact with any engineers of Boeing?
5. Did Northrup install Global Hawk technology in a commercial airplane?

CARRIER AND TROOP MOVEMENTS BEFORE SEPT 11
1. Did two U. S. carrier battle groups arrive in the Gulf of Arabia just off the Pakistani coast before 9/11?
2. Did 17,000 U. S. troops join more than 23,000 NATO troops in Egypt for Operation 'Bright Star' on 9/11? What was the purpose of both of these operations?

BIOCHEMICAL WARFARE
1. When did Tommy Franks learn that he would use Thermobarics in ToraBora?
2. Does he know if it had been tested on December 12 in Nevada?
3. Who told Franks that Bin Laden might hide in ToraBora?
4. Is the main purpose of Thermobarics to destroy buried bio and chemical stocks?
5. Was Thermobarics developed for the purpose to use one day in Iraq?
6. When was the first time Franks used Thermobarics? Was it before or after the announcement of the end of ABM Treaty on December 11?
7. When did the US decide to use B61-11, the "nuclear version" of its "conventional" BLU-113 counterpart?
8. Why has the NSA destroyed data collected on Americans or US companies since the Sept. 11 attacks?

ABORTED ATTEMPTS TO GET BIN-LADEN
1. Why did Clinton abort an attack on Bin Laden in October 1999?
2. Who was responsible for that operation?
3. Why was the operation put on hold?
4. Why did Musharraf halt a covert operation to attack Bin Laden in October 1999?
5. Why did the GOP in Congress stop almost every move Clinton made against terrorism? They refused to believe reports and pass necessary legislation. In 1996 Clinton proposed a very extensive anti-terrorism regulation.

RICHARD REID
1. Who hired Richard Reid to threaten a passenger plane in Paris?
2. Who did he send an email to in Pakistan?
3. Has he ever been in touch with the ISI or CIA?
4. Did he know the difference between an explosive and a detonator?
5. How many ounces did he have in his shoes?
6. What size are his shoes?
7. Who build or prepared his shoes?

JOHN WALKER LINDH
1. Has John Walker Lindh ever been in touch with the CIA?
2. Did he ever work for the CIA?
3. Who arrested him in 2001?
4. Why didn't he escape in the tumult to nearby Masar-e-Sharif?
5. Who hired his lawyer, Richard Brohanan? Who paid his lawyer?
6. Why didn't he go to Guantanamo Bay?

DICK CHENEY
1. When did Cheney stop working for Halliburton?
2. Is he still in possession of any Halliburton stock?
3. Is he still in contact with Halliburton?
4. Was Halliburton invited to an oil conference in May 2002?
5. Does Cheney know when that meeting was planned?
6. Did Cheney have influence concerning Halliburton contracts with the Pentagon?
7. What exactly did Cheney decide to do on September 11th?
8. Did he speak with an Air Force Commander or Lt. Gen. Charles F. Wald on that day?
9. When did he inform the president about the hijacked airplanes on September 11?
10. Who called the White House on September 11 at 9:30 PM about a possible threat?
11. Why was no air security at the White House or the Pentagon at 9:30 PM?
12. When and who gave the approval to evacuate the White House at 9:45 PM?
13. What was the purpose of a meeting with Indian opposition leader Sonia Gandhi in June 2001 about a multimillion-dollar debt owed to Enron from a major energy project in Indian Power Plants?
14. When was the last time Cheney spoke with anyone from ENRON?

COLIN POWELL
1. What was the role of Colin Powell?
2. Who decided to give $43 million in aid to the Taliban regime in May 2001?
3. Did he know that production of opium in Afghanistan fell from 3276 tonnes in 2000 to 185 in 2001?
4. What was the purpose of his decision to treat the Taliban prisoners as War Prisoners? Is this decision in any way related to media reports 2 days earlier that Powell may have been involved in negotiations with Indian Power Plants?
5. What was the purpose of his short trip to Latin America on September 11?
6. Who decided that he fly to Latin America on that day?
7. Why would someone threaten him in Afghanistan on January 17, 2002 as Newsweek reported?
8. What was the purpose of Powell meeting with India's foreign minister on April 6, 2001?
9. Did Enron or Cheney ask Powell to help collect a $64 million debt on an Indian plant project?

GEORGE H. W. BUSH
1. When was the last time George H. W. Bush traveled to South Arabia on behalf of the Carlyle Group?
2. What was the purpose of that meeting?

THOMAS WHITE
1. Is Thomas White still in contact with ENRON?
2. Did his contact at anytime influence his decisions?
3. Does he still own ENRON stocks?

DELMART VREELAND
1. Did Vreeland warn Canadian Intelligence in May 2001 about possible terrorist attacks on New York and the Pentagon?
2. Did he place the warning in an envelope while in prison in Toronto, Canada?
3. Where did he get his information?
4. Whom did he give the envelope to?
5. Why was he placed in jail?

SAUDI-BINLADIN-GROUP. COM
1. Was the domain created on September 11th, 2000?
2. Who paid for that domain?
3. Are they also owners of Iridium Satellites?
4. When did they end contact with relatives of the Bush family?

THE CARLYLE GROUP
1. When was the last time George H. W. Bush traveled to Saudi Arabia on behalf of the privately owned Carlyle Group, the 11th largest defense contractor in the U. S.?
2. What was the purpose of that meeting?
3. When did he resign from Carlyle Group?
4. Is he still in touch with any of their representatives?

STEPHEN LANDER, Director MI5
1. Did Lander monitor a phone conversation between Zacarias Moussaoui and Richard Reid in Dec. 2000?
2. What did Lander tell representatives of the CIA about Zacarias Moussaoui?
3. Why did he stop monitoring Djamel Beghal, member of Takfir-wal-Hijra (financed by Osama bin Laden) in August 2001?

BIN LADEN IN DUBAI
1. Did Bin Laden in July 2001 enter an American hospital in Dubai?
2. Did he arrive on July 4, 2001 on a flight from Qetta, Pakistan to American Hospital?
3. Was he at the hospital July 4-11, 2001?
4. Did Bernard Koval, CEO of American Hospital, ever speak with Doctor Terry Callaway about that visit?
5. Why did he change his statements about this story not being true and that he "asked around"?
6. What is the difference between Continuous Ambulatory Peritoneal Dialysis and Continuous Cycling Peritoneal Dialysis?
7. Did Koval know Larry Stevens?
8. Can Koval explain why Richard Labeviere, author of "Terror Dollars" (about illegal Al-Quaeda accounts), wrote the story about Osama Bin Laden's kidney operation?

GEORGE W. BUSH
1. What exactly happened on September 11 and at what time was President Bush informed?
2. Why was President Bush scheduled to visit a school in Florida?
3. Who scheduled the time of the visit?
4. When exactly did Bush learn about the first crash into the WTC?
5. How could he have seen that on TV?
6. Why didn't he interrupt his school meeting as soon as he learned of the first plane crash?
7. Did Bush ever wonder how Bin Laden was able to hear the first plane crash live on the radio?
8. Which radio station he was listening to?
9. Can Bush explain how Bin Laden's Home Video was found only two weeks after it was produced?
10. Why did Bush decide to release Bin Laden's Home Video?
11. What is the purpose of the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation (WHISC) in Fort Benning, Georgia, where terrorists have been trained for undercover agents in South America? Bush stated "if any government sponsors the outlaws and killers of innocents, they have become outlaws and murderers themselves". So what does he think about Fort Benning?
12. What is the role of Zalmay Khalilzad (former UNOCAL) in the National Security Council ?
13. What is the current role of Zalmay Khalilzad
(former UNOCAL) in Afghanistan?
14. When was Bush's last contact with anyone from ENRON?
15. Why was China admitted to the WTO on September 13 after 15 years of unsuccessful attempts?
16. Why did Bush postpone the release of Ronald Reagan's records?
17. How does Bush feel about the need to investigate the CIA's mistakes?
18. Does Bush agree with senators John McCain, Joseph I. Lieberman, Porter J. Goss, former C. I. A. clandestine case officer and a Florida Republican, Richard C. Shelby and Ron Paul, US Congressman, who want an investigation and have said "Secret government is winning out over open government"?
19. Did he know before he left his hotel that morning on the way to the school that the 1st tower had been hit? ABC news reported that morning that he was asked by reporters if he was aware of events in NYC and he answered yes. If so, why did he later say he first heard of it was when he was at the school?
20. Why did Bush continue to sit in that classroom reading to children when he should have been conferring with his advisors?
21. Why did Bush say that he and Card initially thought it was an accident involving a small plane?
22. Given all the information sources available to the POTUS and his staff how could his people not have known the kind of plane involved?
23. Why didn't they know at this point, as did the FAA and NORAD, that aircraft were hijacked? The Batallion Chief in the 9/11 video was seen and heard asking for military backup immediately after the building was hit.
24. How come the NYFD knew it was terrorism right away but the POTUS and his aides just calmly went about their business?

TONY BLAIR
1. Were 25,000 British troops and the largest British Armada since the Falkland Islands War, part of Operation 'Essential Harvest' pre-positioned in Oman, the closest point on the Arabian Peninsula to Pakistan before September 11, 2001?
2. When did he begin to place SIS-Special Forces in Afghanistan? Why?

THE SUN-SENTINEL
1. Did Gloria Irish own unit 1504 at the Delray Racquet Club, 755 Dotterel?
2. Did she rent that property to Hamza Alghamdi in August 2001?
3. Why did the media not report about a connection of the Sun-Sentinel and the hijackers?
4. Why did it first appear that the hijackers had something to do with the anthrax attacks?
5. Why has this connection or coincidence never appeared in the media again?
6. What was the connection between husband Michael Irish (SunSentinel) and Bob Stevens (who died from Anthrax)?

WARNINGS
1. When did Vladimir Putin warn the CIA about a possible terrorist attack and what was their reaction?
2. What was the purpose of the meeting between Christina Rocca, director of Asian affairs at the State Department and the Taliban ambassador Mollah Abdul Salam Zaeef in Islamabad in August 2001?
3. Why did she oversee the delivery of Stinger missiles in the 80s to Afghan mujaheddin?
4. Did Walid Arkeh in Seminole County jail inform the FBI in August 2001 about an attack on America? What was the reaction of the FBI?
5. Why did Dr. Jeffrey Starr, U. S. department of defense, visit Tajikistan in Jan 2001?
6. When did Jean-Claude Cousseran, Director DGSE , French Secret Service inform the CIA about terrorist attacks on America? What was their reaction?
7. What does he know about the monitoring of Djamel Beghal, member of Takfir-wal-Hijra (financed by Osama bin Laden) and Kamel Daoudi? Did he ever inform the CIA about that? And when?
8. When did Italian Deputy Prime Minister Gianfranco Fini inform the CIA about a possible attack on the American president "with the use of an airplane"? What was their reaction?
9. When did President Mubarak, Egypt, inform the CIA about a possible attack on America with an "airplane stuffed with explosives"? What was their reaction?
10. When did Efraim Halevy , Director of Mossad since 1998 (unconfirmed) inform the CIA about a possible attack with "200 terrorists" on America? What was their reaction?
11. Is it true he warned Ariel Sharon not to travel to New York on September 11 to speak at a festival?
12. Did a caller to Loxley Banks, Director Radio Cayman Islands talk show, give several warnings of an imminent attack on the U. S on Sept. 3 -10?
13. The London Times reported that someone from the FAA warned Salman Rushdie not to travel to the United States on September 3rd? If this is true, who was it?
14. Did the FBI investigate the two men who met Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi in Harry's Bar at the Helmsley Hotel in Manhattan on September 8, 2001?
15. Who does Abdullah Abdullah (Northern Alliance) believe killed Commander Ahmad Shah Massoud on September 9, 2001?
16. When and why did he decide to attack Kabul on September 11 at 5:30 PM?
17. When did he decide to invade Masar-i-Scharif
18. Did the CIA helped him provoke a tumult?
19. Did he ever meet John Walker Lindh?
20. Why was Major John Kenny, Commander Wright Patterson Air Base, Dayton placedon high alert on September 10? Did he inform companies in Dayton to shutdown their offices?
21. Why was Colonel William M. Dietrick , Commander Defense Language Institute in Garrison, Monterey on high alert on September 10?
22. Why did one of Kenneth (Ken) Weinbrecht (President SAMS ) executives say on September 10, that he was a 'Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act.'"
23. Did Jean-Louis Bruguiere, French anti-terrorism, inform the CIA on September 10 about a possible terrorist attack? If so, what was their reaction?
24. Why did Atta and hijacker Abdulaziz Alomari checke into a Portland, Maine motel (unidentified) on September 10?
25. Why was the Portland, Airport, according to eye-witnesses, in full charge of more military officials and soldiers than usual, weeks before September 11, 2001?
26. Why, as the San Francisco Chronicle reported, was Mayor Brown warned to be "cautious in your travel" the night of September 10? Who warned him?
27. Why did Alex Diamandis, Odigo Vice President of Sales and Marketing, receive a warning on his messenger service about a possible attack on America on September 11, 2001? At which time?
28. When did Dr. August Hanning , President BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst Germany) inform the CIA that "Middle Eastern terrorists are 'planning to hijack commercial aircraft ?" What was their reaction? Did he allow an Iranian prisoner in Hamburg call to the CIA in Summer 2001 about an attack on America? What was their reaction?

AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL/GLOBAL HAWK
1. Why did Kenneth Waldie, Stanley Hall, Herbert Homer and Peter Gay of Raytheon travel on Sept. 11? 2. 2. Can Global Hawk technology be used for at least 27 hours?
3. Is Global Hawk technology used in commercial airplanes?
4. Did Danielle O'Brien, air traffic controller, inform another air traffic control center about a plane traveling fast southwest of Dulles after spotting it 8:18 AM on September 11?
5. Who was informed and what happened?

THE PENNSYLVANIA CRASH
1. Why didn't Dr. James G. Roche, Secretary of the Air Force try to reach the airplanes in NYC (7 minutes time for McGuire AFB in New Jersey ) and at the Pentagon (10 minutes time)?
2. Did Roche ever try to shutdown the plane in Pennsylvania?
3. Can Roche explain why magazines of that plane were found 20 miles away from the crash? Andrews AFB is 13 miles away. He had one hour and fifteen minutes to respond to the plane that hit the Pentagon. What happened during that time?
4. Can he explain why many ear- and eye witnesses, including workers of the road construction company New Enterprise saw or heard F-16 jets ?
5. Why did President Bush say only one week later that he tried to shutdown that plane?
6. Who gave that decision?

DEFENSE ALERTS AND MOVEMENTS
1. Why did George Bush leave Barksdale Air Force Base aboard Air Force One and flew to an Air Force base in Nebraska on 1:48 PM on September 11 and returned to Washington at 4:30 PM?
2. What exactly did Donald Rumsfeld do that day before he arrived at the Pentagon around 3:55 PM?
3. How did Rumsfeld know at 5:30 PM on September 11 that the plane in Pennsylvania could have been headed for one of three possible targets: Camp David, the White House or the U. S. Capitol building?
4. Can he explain why early media reports told us that no squadrons of combat-ready fighter jets have been at Andrews and later changed their reports that they haven't been on high alert only?
5. Why was Air Force Lt. Col. Vic Warzinski, another Pentagon spokesman, so sure on September 11 that aircraft was coming your way?
6. What did the D. C. Air National Guard in Washington do on September 11?
7. Can he explain what those 3 fighters did from 9:40AM until 9:55AM when they finally turned towards Flight 93 and were 60 miles out at 10:06am?
8. Can he explain why Air Traffic Controllers in a Nashua Telegraph article did report an F-16 was circling Flight 93 and was in visual range at the time of crash?
9. Can he confirm a witness report that National Guard F-16's have been at Hancock field in Syracuse NY in the air early that morning before 9AM?
10. How could the hijackers know how to disable defense systems?
11. What was the official reason that fighters of the
305th Air Wing, McGuire Air Force Base, NJ did not intercept the 2nd hijacked plane in NYC? This would have been possible within 7 minutes after 8:48 AM
12. Why did none of the 459th Aircraft Squadron (Andrews AFB) fighters intercept the plane which crashed into the Pentagon? Andrews AFB is 10 miles from Washington DC.
13. Col. Ken McClellan, Air Force spokesman said on September 11, that Mohammad Atta attended the International Officer's School at Maxwell/Gunter Air Force Base in Montgomery, and was seen by eye-witnesses? What was McClellan doing there? Why did he later deny the report?
14. Why did he decide not to shutdown ECHELON base Bad Aibling in Germany as planned for 2002?
15. What is the reason that none of any Air Force fighters reached the hijacked plane in time?
16. Many eye- and witnesses think that the plane in Pennsylvania was shot down. What is the scientific explanation why the magazine of the airplane was found many miles away?
17. Why did Jack Kelly, idefense. com, inform USA Today only 12 minutes after the first crash (8:48AM), that terror groups using Web encryption may have been responsible? And why was he so sure before the second crash at 9:03 PM?
18. Did Kelly serve with the U. S. government where he managed several significant programs for the information warfare and intelligence communities?
19. Did Joseph J. Esposito, Chief of NYPD try to contact the Pentagon at 9:06 AM on September 11? What was their reaction?
20. Why didn't General Elwood "Pete" Quesada of the FAA inform President Bush between 8:15 and 9:05 about four simultaneously hijacked planes? Who did he inform and what was their reaction?

THE WTC COLLAPSE
1. What does Nicholas Scoppetta of FDNY know about the latest reports of the WTC destruction?
2. Can he explain why many witnesses saw and heard more than two explosions in the WTC?
3. Can he explain why both Twin Towers and Building 7 collapsed in that way?
4. Can he explain why a gas tank was in Building 7?
5. Can he explain why there were no passengers in the subway under the WTC?
6. Can he explain why there was no guard at the gold reservoir under the WTC?
7. Why did Dr. Jeffrey P. Koplan, Director CDC prepare, as CNN reported, emergency-response teams on September 11 at 11:16 PM?

MISCELLANEOUS
1. When did Dr. August Hanning , President BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst Germany) inform the CIA that "Middle Eastern terrorists are 'planning to hijack commercial aircraft ?" What was their reaction? Did he allow an Iranian prisoner in Hamburg call to the CIA in Summer 2001 about an attack on America? What was their reaction?
2. When did Tayseer Allouni , Kabul correspondent Al-Jazeera, receive his first video from Bin Laden? Can he explain why the first video on October 7 2001, the day of the retaliation, looked like it was recorded in the morning?
3. Did Tom Simmons (former U. S. Ambassador to Pakistan), Karl Inderfurth (former Assistant Secretary of State for South Asian affairs) and Lee Coldren (former State Department expert on South Asia) decide or announce in a July 2001 meeting that an attack was planned on the Taliban in October 2001?
4. Why did Ms. Barbara Bodine, US ambassador to Yemen stop John O'Neill from investigating Al-Quaeda accounts in July 2001?
5. Did Niaz Niak, former Pakistani Foreign Secretary say in mid July 2001 that the USA planned military action against Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban?
6. Did Hameed Gul, retired Pakistani general of Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence, say that a secret service was involved in the attack on America?
7. Why did Tommy Thompson, The Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, and other Bush cabinet members meet secretly (i. e. illegally) in Oct. 2001 with officials of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) to develop plans for their Emergency Preparedness Task Force? Why did he decide on October
25, 2001 to ask Congress for another $500 million to produce Acambis's smallpox vaccine?
8. Why did it take 4.5 hours until Jean Marie Malecki , Director Palm Beach County Health Department, picked up the phone for employees of the AMI-Building, Boca Raton. This is where editor Bob Stevens got anthrax. Why did she wait two days before she visited that building again?
9. Why did Mayor Guilani sell WTC rubble to India for recycling and also China? Who made that decision?
10. What was the purpose of U. S. Ambassador Wendy Chamberlain's phone call on October 10, 2001 to the Pakistani oil minister? Why was she sure that a previously abandoned Unocal pipeline from Turkmenistan across Afghanistan to the Pakistani coast for the purpose of selling oil and gas to China, was back on the table in view of recent geopolitical developments?
11. What exactly was found on Z. Moussaoui's computer after 9/11, when local agents were given a Federal Intelligence Security Act (FISA) warrant, which they had requested six weeks previously? This ties directly into the question of the administration's dealings with the Taliban, its reluctance to investigate Saudi nationals, etc.
12. Why the attack on Cynthia McKinney for asking: 1) why has there been no investigation of the 9-11 attack? and 2) did Bush/CIA/NSA know of it beforehand, and allow it to happen?
13. Why is the Bush administration so strongly against a real investigation into the events of 9-11?
14. Why did the US give 43 million dollars to Afghanistan back in May or June of 2001
15. Why did Bush toss the Hart-Rudman terror security study (developed over a 2 year period) and instead assign responsibility to Cheney and FEMA?
16. Why did Ashcroft stops flying commercial, citing an unidentified "threat" in July 2001? Why did the FBI and Justice not identify the form, origin and time of the threat?
17. Why did Bush stay in Texas for the month of August and Cheney in Wyoming?
18. Why no photos or videos of the Pentagon plane? And there's not a single credible frame of film or second of video of this? Also, why hasn't a similar flight path graphic ever been published?
19. Why didn't the Secret Service hustle Dubya out of the classroom a half-second after Andy Card told him, "Mr. pResident, the nation is under attack"?
20. Why did they leave him exposed to danger for two and a half minutes in the classroom and another half-hour in the school before he returned to the relative safety of Air Force One?
21. Where was George H. W. Bush at the time of the attacks?
22. Why did passengers or crewmembers on three of the flights tell people on the ground that the highjackers had "box cutters"?
23. Where are the flight recorders?
24. How did they find a passport that just "happens" to belong to one of the hijackers in the WTC rubble and they can't locate even ONE flight recorder?
25. Why no investigative reporting of the Pentagon scene? The photos do not show much, but then photographers were not allowed, initially, to photograph the scene, if I remember correctly.
26. Why was the series of recommendations Al Gore also put together in 1996 on airport security called by Republican congress "paranoid" and too harsh. Why did the airline industry, lobbying against it, consider it too expensive and impractical.
27. Why was the Hart-Rudman report on the potential dangers of terrorism in the homeland. The results of the research ignored by Bush?
28. Why were FISA warrants disallowed by Bush?
29. Why did the US pull the plug on Muslim websites Monday September 10, 2001?
30. Why did the Saudi bin-Laden-group have a website with a PRE-SET expiration date of Sept. 11, 2001?
31. Why were the bin Ladens flown out of the U. S. on private jets the day after the 9/11?
32. Why did Cheney say that everyone in the White House started taking Cipro on September 12 when the first anthrax letter wasn't postmarked until September
18. 33. Why did Bush dissolve the Bin Laden Task Force? What would have happened had this focused and knowledgeable group been in place 9 months before 911?
34. Why was metallic debris found 8 miles from the crash site of the plane that went down in Penn? They said it went straight down and left a small hole in the ground. If they found metallic debris from the plane 8 miles away it was either shot down or a bomb exploded in the plane.
35. Why did they not let the media or any reporters take video or photos of the crash site?

Som jag sagt förut:

En 12-åring skulle kunna räkna ut att 911 var ett inside job

I gammal sann förnekar tradition så svarar man inte på frågor utan tar fram 100 nya påståenden som inte beläggs med bevis eller källor.

Tydligen så har skivan hakat upp sig.

Nej förnekar sidan har inte presenterat bevis på sin tro.

Inget av planen har gjort någon konstig och omöjlig sväng.
Detta lär man sig på högstadiet.

Om du skall svänga 360° dvs ett varv så kan detta ske i en cirkel som är 100 meter i diameter (sträckan från ena till den andra sidan av cirkeln) Skall man göra denna manöver med ett trafikflygplan som åker i över 800km/h så kommer man få problem.
Sker däremot svängen 360° i en cirkel som har diametern 10 km så är det inga problem.

Detta kan ni testa hemma, ta ut cykeln och försök och göra en 360° sväng som har diametern 30 cm och sen gör ni en 360° sväng som har diametern 10 meter.
Vilken sväng går lättast att göra?

Klarar ni inte av detta så är allt hopp ute för logiskt tänkande är då dött.

Länkarna som ni ger beskriver ju bara svängarna i grader inte i hur snäva (diameter) dom är, därmed kan man ju säga att bilden blir lätt skev då påståendet inte är underbyggt.

Men det är väl bara ytterligare en detalj som inte spelar någon roll i det stora sammanhanget? !!

Det börjar bli många detaljer som inte stämmer för er.

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Som Jag sa. Ganska uppenbart vad som pågår

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I grunden är det du skriver riktigt, att man i brottsutredningar inom rättsväsenden lägger stor vikt på vittnesuppgifter och annat bevismaterial, så långt är du inne på rätt spår.

Men för att man ska kunna lägga vikt vid dessa vittnesmål och annan bevisning, gäller att de kan KONTROLLERAS och befinnas stämma överrens med verkligheten.

Det är mycket välkänt att folk som är vittnen till olika händelser har väldigt lätt för att missuppfatta vad som jhände, eller svårt att återge det i korrekta ord.

Detta gäller för allehanda händelser liksom små bilkrockar i en mindre byhåla, där polisen kan få in ett gäng vittnesuppgifter som kan var väldigt motsägelsefulla i sin helhet eller delvis.

I detta läge så börjar nu utredarnas jobb med att jämföra vittnesmålen med vad man kunnat få fram i fysiska fakta från olycksplatsen. Man kollar bromsspår, färgskrap efter bilarna m.m. m.m.

Slutligen kan man kanske komma fram till att även om fru Märta yrat till det med vilket håll bilarna kom från, så hade hon rätt på färgen på dem. Larsson hade alla rätt, Karsson hade inga rätt, Olsson hade bra koll på läget men var färgblind så det sket sig o.s.v.

Slutligen så har man fått en sammanställning där ovidkommande saker är bortsållade, viktiga saker har visat sig finnas spår av i flera vittnesmål och att detta stämmer med verkligheten efter olycksplatsundersökningen.

Man har alltså slutligen ett bra bevismaterial från alla dessa vittnesmål. I det läget så spelar det ingen roll om Fru Märta sa att del \\\"eploderade\\\" för det var hennes sätt att säga att det small som fan vid krocken trots att inget egentligen exploderade eller att sprängämnen var med i smällen.

Går vi så över till WTC så gäller samma sak där, folk som uder press eller överaskning upplever traumatiska händelser kan använda målande beskrivningar som kan vara delvis feaktiga men ändå ge en viss bild av vad som hände, men man får inte ta allt i detalj så bokstavligt av det som sägs.

Alltså, säger någon att det small som bomber så betyder det just inte mer än att DET LÄT som bomber, inte ATT det var bomber.

Likaså kan många, utan att veta säkert, uttrycka sig som \\\"det var bomber...\\\" eller \\\"det exploderade....\\\" eller \\\" det small som sprängladningar\\\" o.s.v.....

Då måste man ha klart för sig att dessa uppgifter först måste bestämmas vara trovärdiga i detalj, alltså om det föreligger någon vettig chans att det verkligen var bomber eller nåt som verkligen exploderade, eller om ordvalet blev sådant för att något lät som om det exploderade.

I brinnande hus oavsett storlek då är det inte alls ovanligt att det kan smälla till rejält ibland då viss saker \\\"exploderar\\\" av värmen. Det kan i en vanlig villabrand handla om sprayflaskor som spricker i värmen och gasen i dem antänds med en knall. Det kan vara bildäck i garaget som exploderar av värmen, bensindunkar ja det finns en massa saker i en fastighet som kan skapa väldiga knallar i en brand.

Till det så har vi i fallet WTC en enorm stålkonstruktion som bär upp en enorm vikt. Denna konstruktion är dessutom allvarligt skadad av flygplanen vilket sätter enorm press på enskilda delar i konstruktionen. Vartefter som belastningen så ökar då värmen gör att bärigheten i stålet minskar så kommer man till slut till läget då något brister eller knäcks. Om det då är en hårt utsträckt stålbjälke som ryker rätt av i nit- eller svetsförbandet så kan jag garantera att det smäller som själva fan och lätt kan tas för rena explosionerna. Och i just husen i 9/11 så är det ju helt naturligt att sådana \\\"explosioner\\\" kan ha hänt en hel drös gånger innan själva rasen var igång.

Så att det finns brandmän eller andra som har uppfattat detta som just explosioner och vittnat om det, är ändå inte detsamma som bevis för ATT det just var sprängämnen som orsakade dessa ljud. Det kan ha varit, och det är ju mest sannolikt att det var, smällar från helt naturliga orsaker i en större brand och skadade hus som dessa där stommen var på väg att ge upp.

För att brandmännens och andras vittnesmål ska bli helt sanna så måste man kunna bekräfta att det verkligen var just sprängämnen som orsakat smällarna. Men då detta inte har kunnat bevisas så är det alltså bara spekulationer och det sannolikaste då är att det var helt naturliga ljud från de skadade husen som folk felaktigt uppfattade för riktiga explosioner.

Någon som har svårt att förstå detta?

Hur orkar du. En eloge för dina ansträngningar. Ursäkta påhoppet. Men du är full av skit.

Har inga åsikter i frågan för tillfället men är det så att ni som kastar skit på varann vill att tråden låses och hamnar i papperskorgen så är det väl ganska nära nu...

Tycker dock inte själv att något tråd bör låsas eller trashas... snarare att man modererar bort direkta personangrepp eller meningslöst känslosamma fraseringar.

Ingen nämnd! Ingen glömd!

Ok, om jag tolkar dessa inlägg rätt så är vi då eniga om att det inte krävdes någon luftakrobatik för att flyga på det sätt som befintliga data visar. Ingen däremot så vitt jag kan se. Tack, det var bara det jag ville veta. Ha en trevlig lördag allihop.

Ytterligare ett inlägg som visar vilken nivå ni ligger på.
Ingen kunskap om vetenskap och naturlagar, inte ens har ni lyckats presentera ett enda bevis som styrker er teori.

Men eftersom det är en omöjlig uppgift för er att komma med konkreta bevis så kommer vare inlägg liknande det ovan här bara bevisa att ni inte behärskar ämnet som sådant.

/Gert

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Lägg inte "ni" på vaken. Det var min personliga mening. Min personliga åsikt bör inte generaliseras med "Ni". Och din personliga mening om mig är helt ok. Du får tycka så.

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Nej, jag ursäktar inte dessa påhopp, eller ditt beteende.

Delta gärna i diskussionen av trådens sakfrågor med vettigt underbyggda åsikter eller bevis.

Har du däremot inte förmåga att prestera nåt vettigare än du gjort i dina senare inlägg så råder jag dig till att avstå att skriva tills du har nåt vettigare att komma med. Man får intrycket av att du avsiktligt försöker få tråden stängd!?

Jag hoppas att alla ser vilka som i denna och andra trådar försöker föra en vettig diskussion där fakta och vetenskap har huvudrollen, men som motarbetas med inlägg med bara dumheter utan grund.

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Som jag sa tidigare så får du/ni tycka vad ni vill om mina inlägg. Men lägg inte mina personliga åsikter på vaken. Tycker du att jag är dum så är det helt ok. Jag tycker inte heller om alla människor på jorden.

Hej på er alla !

Okej det är så här att dom som är admin på detta forum är jag (maggot),void,niko och cee
och såklart högsta hönset Micro.

samtliga är på semseter
okej cee har väl kanske inte direkt semseter men han har fullt upp som ni säkert förstår.

Så det är MR-maggs som får agera "polis"

så admin kommer ha fullt med stavfel till void är tillbaks (i början av nästa vecka, hoppas ni ursäktar)

jag håller med jaxtone i det senaste inlägget och ja ger nu nomorewar en varning!

när vaken.se hade sitt lilla problem ringde ja till void cee.mm
och sa.
" nu jävlar får vi ta tag i detta med personagrepp"


skärpning det är f-n inte kul att dela ut varningar hej vilt!

Ska jag vara ärlig så tycker jag vaken börjar tappa kurage. Så fort ni stänger av någon pgr personangrepp så kommer personen ifråga tillbax under annat nick och slänger ur sig saker som. Ja där ser man vilken nivå ni har på vaken. Ni saknar trovärdighet och grund.

VAKNA för f-n. De är uppenbara sabotörer som vänder och vrider på allt för att sabba för de likasinnade på vaken. Ok om de hade hållit med om NÅGOT på vaken, eller ens försökt kicka på ideer och lösningar så hade det varit helt ok. Hur uppenbart ska det behöva bli? Skärp er.
Varningen noterad.

NomoreWar!
Om någon hade kallat dig jävla idiot på stan hur hade du reagerat?

Det hade nog inte varit kul ? och det är heller inte lagligt.
så varför ska det vara det här?

Finns det något annat forum där man får säga till någon "du är full av skit"

sedan detta med att det bara är att byta nick javisst det går lätt men som sagt det blir hårdare tag nu och det går ju att IP banna folk.


då måste de byta ip nummer hela tiden.
till slut lär de tröttna.

De lär knappast tröttna. Det är kanska uppenbart att de inte gör. Du har helt rätt i det du säger om att kasta skit. Jag är inte perfekt på något sätt och vill inte uppfattas som det heller. Men om du kollar mina tidigere inlägg och trådar så är det kanapast pajkastning jag ägnar mig åt. om du kollar generellt. Ni borde vid det här laget kunna skilja på pajkastare och likasinnade. Skärpning

"VAKNA för f-n. De är uppenbara sabotörer som vänder och vrider på allt för att sabba för de likasinnade på vaken. Ok om de hade hållit med om NÅGOT på vaken, eller ens försökt kicka på ideer och lösningar så hade det varit helt ok. Hur uppenbart ska det behöva bli? Skärp er"

Som ja ser det vore det rena fashismen att banna folk för de inte är likasinade.

vi är inte socialism.nu!

ja tycker att dessa "antikonspirationssnubbar" som ospa zapata diskuterar på ett mycket skickligt/Inteligent sett.
och har bra underlag.


jag är själv en sanningsökare och tror på en konspiration kring 911

men ja ser att deras motbevis till detta med fysikens lagar är mycket intresanta.

dock talar väl min intution för att det var en kontrolerad demolering.

kan man inte fysik så bra så kanske man inte bör diskutera det.
ja diskuterar inte fysiken trots att enligt mig är det 99.9% säkert att WTC "drogs ner"

bara det att företaget kontrollerad demolering är på plats.

är väldigt skumt

"Det är inte de onda människornas ondska som är farlig utan de goda människornas tystnad"

MVH Masken

"De lär knappast tröttna. Det är kanska uppenbart att de inte gör. Du har helt rätt i det du säger om att kasta skit. Jag är inte perfekt på något sätt och vill inte uppfattas som det heller. Men om du kollar mina tidigere inlägg och trådar så är det kanapast pajkastning jag ägnar mig åt. om du kollar generellt. Ni borde vid det här laget kunna skilja på pajkastare och likasinnade. Skärpning"

Så du tycker inte du förtjänade en varning?
det handlar väl inte om vad du har gjort utan om vad du gör.

ps:jag har inget emot dig

ja jag förtjänar en varning och det var jag beredd på men jag tänkte Fuck it denna gången. Det var fel. där av en varning. Och jag tror inte du har nåt imot mig.
Det har blivit mycket dalltande om pajkastningar. Vaken borde söka efter ett mer effektivt och rättvist system på hur man urskiljer sabotörer och sanningssökare. hur man gör det vet jag inte. Men tillsammans ska det inte vara så svårt att lösa.