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July 3, 2006 – As a direct result of the government scientists at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) producing and providing for public consumption, an unsustainable theory of how the World Trade Center North Tower and South Tower each collapsed at freefall speed on September 11, 2001, tens of millions of Americans, and millions more people abroad, now rightly question whether the U.S. government’s account of what happened on 9/11 is the truth.

Confronted with the overwhelming amount of independent research conducted and compiled since 9/11 that clearly and fairly challenges the validity of the government’s “pancake theory” of collapse, the Muckraker Report decided to host a National 9/11 Debate with the hope that the U.S. government would take this opportunity to answer many of the unanswered questions pertaining to 9/11.

The fact is that the gap between what the government has told the mainstream media parrots regarding September 11, 2001, and what independent researchers and real journalists have uncovered, is too large and obnoxious to be left unchecked.

For example, Dr. Judy Wood, professor of Mechanical Engineering has offered research titled, A Refutation of the Official Collapse Theory - http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/BilliardBalls.html - In her research, Dr. Judy Wood addresses the simplicity of the science that clearly dismisses the government’s current theory of collapse as a false statement.

Why the mainstream media news editors are unwilling or unable to wrap their minds around the fact that if a billiard ball were to be dropped from 1,362 feet (height of the South Tower) in a vacuum, meaning no air resistance to slow the ball’s dissent, according to Professor Woods and easily validated by any mechanical engineer or physics professor, the billiard ball would require 9.22 seconds to hit the ground.

How then did the towers collapse in 10 seconds and 11.4 seconds, and why has not one member of the mainstream media insisted on honest answers from the government in this regard?

The fact is that the government’s account of how the twin towers collapsed has already been proven false. The laws of gravity alone dictate that for the twin towers to have collapsed according to the NIST “pancake theory” required at least a 30 second collapse cycle.

The North Tower collapsed 11.4 seconds. The South Tower collapsed in 10 seconds. The actual collapse time of each tower disproves the government’s theory. As much as the hysterical neo con mouthpieces want to label those of us not confused by the facts as conspiracy theorists, the scientific evidence remains that the twin towers could not have collapsed as the government claims.

Regardless of what you want to believe about the events of September 11, 2001, believing the government’s “pancake theory” is to believe a completely false statement. In the final scientific analysis – the “pancake theory” fails.

As desperate as the mainstream media is to not allow Internet news sources to prove how the U.S. government played the editors at ABC, CBS, CNN, FOX, NBC, Associated Press, Reuters, New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, etc. like big time fools regarding 9/11 events, the scientific facts dictate that the time is fast approaching when the editors at these media outlets will have to realize, research, and reconcile the fact that the government has yet to produce a theory on the collapse sequence of the twin towers or the phantom collapse of World Trade Center Building Seven that can be scientifically-validated through the peer evaluation process.

The fact is that scientists outside the government’s control have been conducting peer evaluation of the NIST scientists and their “pancake theory” for years now, and the government theory has failed to pass the test. Its failure to pass the test means that the government has yet to provide a sustainable explanation of how the twin towers collapsed.

This is not unusual in the scientific community; the process of working hypothesis, research, presenting a theory, subjecting the theory to peer evaluation, and then if failing peer evaluation, returning to the research and even the hypothesis.

What is different in this instance though is the stakes; and they couldn’t be higher because so much of what the U.S. government has done since 9/11 is contingent on the majority of the public believing that those twin towers collapsed as the result of the airplane impacts.

With an estimated 42% of the American public now skeptical of the 9/11 Commission Report as well as the NIST “pancake theory”; the government knows it is losing the information war on 9/11, and has recently began to mount its predictable counter-offensive.

That could explain why the mainstream media is starting to invite professors that disagree with the government scientists onto its wide variety of canned news shows and into its newspaper pages – not to give these heroic Americans a fair, non-hostile venue to present their findings –but to smear their creditability and label them as conspiracy nuts!

Who then, I ask you, is the conspiracy nut? Those that display contempt prior to investigation, those that blindly believe a government account that defies the laws of physics and gravity, or those that point out that the elapsed collapse times of the North Tower and South Tower completely eliminate the possibility that the government’s “pancake theory” has any merit whatsoever.

When faced with the challenge of a National 9/11 Debate, the Muckraker Report turned to the well-respected work of Professor Jones and Professor Fetzer at Scholars for 9/11 Truth.

The Muckraker Report contacted Professor Fetzer and asked if he could assemble a highly qualified seven-member civilian debate team that would be willing to debate a seven-member government debate team regarding the government’s account of 9/11 events.

Professor Fetzer had a team assembled in two weeks. With the civilian debate team in place, the Muckraker Report identified twenty-nine potential government debate team members to include the ten members of the 9/11 Commission and the thirteen NIST scientists responsible for the government’s “pancake theory” of collapse.

Each of these potential government debate team members was mailed numerous invitations. Five of the 9/11 Commissioners had staffers contact the Muckraker Report via telephone to decline invitation due to “prior commitments”. However, the thirteen NIST scientists remained silent.

After three separate mailings of hard copy invitations to the NIST scientists, on June 8, 2006 the Muckraker Report received e-mail from NIST that said, “The project leaders of the NIST World Trade Center investigation team respectfully decline your invitations to participate in the National 9/11 Debate on September 16, 2006.”

Not to be deterred, on June 20, 2006 the Muckraker Report e-mailed Michael E. Newman, NIST Director of Media Relations, and asked if there was a better date, time, and location for NIST to participate in the National 9/11 Debate.

On June 25, 2006, NIST Director of Media Relations, Michael E. Newman responded:

The members of the NIST WTC Investigation Team has [sic] respectfully declined your invitation to participate in the National 9/11 Debate. A change in venue or date will not alter that decision.

A change of venue or date will not alter that decision. Fascinating!

What Newman is telling the world is that the public servants at NIST, the people paid by the U.S. taxpayers, will never, ever publicly debate their peers regarding the “pancake theory” of collapse of WTC-1, WTC-2, and WTC-7. Taxpayers should be outraged! The public needs to demand accountability.

Apparently, the Gang of 13 at NIST does not believe they are accountable to the people. That needs to change, pronto! Newman has repeatedly told the Muckraker Report that NIST “stands solidly behind the collapse mechanisms for each tower and the sequences of events (from aircraft impact to collapse) as described in the report.”

The truth is that NIST is hiding behind its unsustainable theory and dares not publicly debate the merits of its report.

When it comes to alternative hypotheses, NIST had none. When challenged on the work of BYU Professor Steven Jones and the preliminary analysis of steel debris from ground zero indicating incendiary devices, with the release of the conclusive evidence imminent, Newman said, “NIST respects the opinions of others who do not agree with the findings in its report on the collapses of WTC-1 and WTC-2.”

To translate this government rhetoric: Even if Jesus Christ descended from heaven, walked into NIST headquarters holding a piece of molten steel from ground zero along with unequivocal evidence of incendiary device compounds and chemicals found on the steel, substances such as Thermate, Newman and the Neo Cons, (That would be a great name for a punk rock band!) would respect the opinion of the Lord, but it wouldn’t change their report.

And make no mistake about it – the NIST report on probable collapse sequence of the twin towers is a blind and baseless opinion, a complete waste of taxpayer dollars, and one of the most atrocious lies every told to the American people!

The Muckraker Report asked Newman if NIST tested any of the steel from the twin towers for trace evidence of common controlled demolition compounds. NIST refuses to answer this question directly. Even when challenged for a simple “yes” or “no” answer to a simple “yes” or “no” question, Newman instead offered this response.

NIST found no corroborating evidence for alternative hypotheses suggesting that the WTC towers were brought down by controlled demolition using explosives planted prior to September 11, 2001.

Well, no kidding Newman! If NIST didn’t look for corroborating evidence of controlled demolition, no doubt NIST didn’t find any.

The question is, “Did NIST test for controlled demolition evidence?”

The answer is NO it did not - yet another reason to dismiss the entire NIST report as pure government propaganda. Did NIST test for what BYU Professor Steven Jones is now testing for and finding, and what will NIST do with solid scientific evidence that proves that controlled demolition compounds were part of the collapse sequence of the twin towers? Unless the public demands otherwise, NIST will continue to hide solidly behind its work!

This is one lie that cannot be allowed to stand. It must be broken. The truth must prevail. Too much privacy and liberty, and too many lives have already been lost because of this lie. The stakes simply could not be any higher at this time. Lives are at risk – to include yours and mine. Never give up!

Im speechless...

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Det är så jävla sjukt, NIST säger ju i princip att "nej, vi tänker aldrig debattera öppet med andra forskare om våra slusatser, någonsin." Men det är väl inte så konstigt egentligen, de vet ju att de skulle bli så grymt ägda lol!

Detta inlägg från Seraphim kräver mer uppmärksamhet anser jag.
Förstår ni vidden av detta? Det är framside-nyhet på vaken.se tycker jag.

Utan tvekan, speciellt som att vi bara nu i dagarna haft både zpz och sanningen_svider som påstått att de har fina "bevis" för stål, free-fall etc.

Nu vill jag se om de kan frammana något motbevis mot de "fysiska lagarna" som de talar så hårt för..

*skriva ut mer affischer*

Stray. Gör några egna nya också. Droppa några feta sannings one-liners. Jag ska hitta på ett par st som tar fram känslan om vad det innebär att vara infowarrior. :)

Får jobba på det imorgon innan jag åker tillbaka hit då. Har inget bra bildhanteringsprogram här :D
Eller iofs. Word kanske funkar..

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Snälla svär inte ;)

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Jag har erbjudit mig att med uträkningar bevisa fallhastigheten för Word Trade Center för Void, men han har fortfarande svansen mellan benen.
Och vad vill ni göra kopiera upp fler planscher. Jag garvar... hejdlöst.

Är det så ni skall framföra er ståndpunkt. med Affischer som undanhåller vetenskapliga bevis för vad som hände?

Är det bara fallfarten som du kramaktigt håller tag i nu, eftersom du blir helt överkörd i alla andra frågor hittils. Ska nog låta dig hållas ett tag till faktiskt. Dessa inlägg om redwood-träd och Chuck Y är så perfekta att visa hur din lilla förvirring. Det blir bara mer pinsamt med dina inlägg där du spinner iväg på helt irrelevanta personliga observationer och diskussioner om saker som inte har med 911 att göra övht. Du måste skärpa till dig.

Mohammed är tillbaka. Forumtroll är inte välkomna här.

Vidden av att NIST vägrar debbatera är väl samma sak som att säga. Vi ger upp på walk-over. NIST kan inte gå vinnande genom historien genom att inte ta denna debatt. Detta måste ut och visas för alla.

NIST vägrar även dela med sig av övriga foton och videoklipp av WTC 7, och de vägrar, trots påtryckningar från andra ingenjörer, visa sina datorsimuleringar av tornens kollaps.

Vilka jäkla töntar haha, det säger ju allt!

NIST found that everybody is laughing at them and that most polls show that more than half the population of the USA and the world in general find their story ridiculous.

More EXPERT opinion..

Thus; They had to release more expert opinion 30. August 2006!

(Updated) NIST "expert" opinion is..:

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Click here:
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

cached here:
http://xianews.com/pagecache/1240/

..for more "EXPERT" opinion!

Hörde precis just nu live på alex jones att NIST skriver på sin hemsida, att de ska undersöka om det var bomber i byggnaderna eftersom bevisen är så överväldigande. succé

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Va, är det sant? Shit va coolt!

förvänta er inget
tänk på estoniakommisionen

hehe, ja, dom kommer förmodligen komma fram till att det var flygplanskaparna som placerade ut bomberna.

För att det överhuvudtaget ska finnas någon trovärdighet i en sådan undersökning måste NIST samarbeta och/eller att någon annan extern forskningsgrupp ser över det arbete som NIST gör i denna fråga. Allt annat vore ett totalt misslyckande från början. Det förstår väl alla?

här är länken förresten;

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/nist_probe_bombs_wtc_7.htm

Oh the arrogance, err NO, the FEAR, errr nope, the errr... confusion, the ... Incapacity to do ANYTHING errr...

Just waiting for next big govt terror to Dwarf 911?
Nuke some city or say 2 Disneylands kill loads of children, then make sure there are TONS of Iranian passports all over the place...

Errr.. dang! Debate?

DEBATe?

FuuuUUUuuuCK YOOOOO! OBEY citizens!
What do EXPERTS know?
OBEY!


"Pay No Attention to that Man Behind the Curtain!"