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Google video säger att den inte finns tillgänglig (din länk). Söker man efter den på google video så hittar man en film med den titlen men den är inte heller tillgänglig.

Posted on: 2007/1/18 22:09
"Paper is poverty... it is only the ghost of money and not money itself". - Thomas Jefferson
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Google video säger att den inte finns tillgänglig (din länk). Söker man efter den på google video så hittar man en film med den titlen men den är inte heller tillgänglig.

Konstigt.. den är tillgänglig för mig. Dock flyter det inte så bra.

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Såna sidor skall ni inte gynna , titta inte ens på dom finns flera st,Man döljer bildbevisen genom att skriva en text framför.Helt omyndigt att sätta text framför .LC har dom oxo en sådan heter FU,, LC..men vem fan skall fu,,as ?? Gå inte in så dom får mera besök på sina sidor...Typisk dom kom från dig zpz..länkarna

Posted on: 2007/1/18 23:29
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Tänk om folk som zpz skulle ha ryggrad nog att titta lika kritiskt på den officiella historien. Men det lär ju aldrig hända.

Posted on: 2007/1/18 23:43


"Absolute certainty is a privilege of uneducated minds and fanatics" - CJ Keyser
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Visst är det besvärande att:

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index ... ion/viewItem/itemID/13469

Source: The New York Times / CBS News
Methodology: Telephone interviews with 983 American adults, conducted from Oct. 5 to Oct. 8, 2006. Margin of error is 4 per cent.
(Sen kan man också tillägga att en del kanske inte vill säga total inside job till folk som ringer och frågar)

Posted on: 2007/1/18 23:49
"Paper is poverty... it is only the ghost of money and not money itself". - Thomas Jefferson
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Tänk om folk som zpz skulle ha ryggrad nog att titta lika kritiskt på den officiella historien. Men det lär ju aldrig hända.

Motsvarande påstående är mycket mer giltigt om dig skulle jag säga... Jag tittar kritiskt på båda sidor och då är det tydligt vilken version som håller för en granskning.

Vad har du att säga om "debunkningen"? Är det nån kritik där som inte är giltig och isåfall vilken? Eller instämmer du i kritiken? Vågar du ta en debatt?

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helt offtopic

Feg konspirationsteoritaktik att byta ämne till nåt helt annat och låtsas som det regnar istället för på ett sakligt sätt bemöta kritik.

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Kritik eh? Posta länkar till en massa fjantiga PsyOps filmer, kan de inte bemöta det här med en ny oberoende kommission (vilket de kommer aldrig att tillåta)



1: If the Twin towers collapsed due to the planes hitting them, why did Fire Fighter, Louis Cacchioli tell People Weekly that a bomb went off inside the Tower as he was evacuating people?

2: Why did the Port Authorities fight for a year to keep audio tapes from rescue crews secret?

3: Why when the full transcripts were finally released did rescue crews report blinding flashes and cracking sounds inside the Towers which are consistent with a ‘Controlled Explosion’?

4: If the fire was so intense that it caused the steel to melt, and eventually the collapse of both towers, why did Fire Chief Palmer not only manage to reach the 78th Floor of the South Tower, but also state that he could put the fires out?

5: If the heat of the fire ‘weakened’ the metal and that was what lead to the collapse, how come the first Tower to get hit was the second to fall?

6: If the fire from the plane collision cause the Towers to collapse, why did Columbia University in New York register a 2.1 and 2.3 seismic shock moments before each Tower collapsed?

7: How come the melting point of the steel was 2,800 degrees F, yet the maximum temperature that can be reached by hydrocarbon jet fuel is 1,520 degrees F. Yet the clean up operation found molten steel in the basement 5 weeks after the collapse. The claim is that only high explosives could have generated the heat necessary to create so much molten steel.

8: Why was this entire giant crime scene effectively cut up and melted down so as to destroy any evidence?

9: Why did some investigating the collapse feel that the planes on their own could not have brought down the buildings and why did some of them feel that they were purposely hindered in their investigation?

10: How come in the entire history of high rise firefighting, no burning building has ever collapsed in on itself in the manner of a controlled explosion, yet it happened three times on September 11th?

11: How come in every video of the Tower collapses, there are mini explosions 30 stories beneath the collapse shock wave?

12: Why were there a series of ‘power downs’ within the Towers and WTC7 prior to September 11th which shut off security cameras and electronically locked doors.

13: Why did Daria Coard, a Guard at the WTC say that after these mysterious security closures, bomb-sniffing dogs weren’t allowed into either Towers or WTC7?

14: Why hasn’t Marvin Bush, the younger brother of George W Bush was on the Board of a company called ‘Securacom’ who ran the security for Dulles Airport, United Airlines AND the WTC been investigated? Isn’t it odd that the younger brother of George W Bush was also running security for those three?

15: How come no bodies, and very little debris was found at the Flight 93 crash site in Shanksville?

16: How come On October 26, 1999, the famous golfer Payne Stewart boarded a private Learjet in Florida and left for Texas. Shortly after takeoff, Stewart's jet veered sharply off course and began heading northwest. All contact with air controllers was lost. Within 15 minutes of having gone off course, US fighter jets had already intercepted the jet, yet on September 11th 4 planes were allowed to just wander around and do what they like for two hours?

17: How come two planes landed at Cleveland Hopkins Airport on September 11th that closed the entire airport?

18: Why did the US ignore warnings of an attack from the Australian Secret Intelligence community in days before the September attacks?

19: How can Osama Bin Laden who needs dialysis treatment for failing kidneys run a terrorist organization from a cave?

20: How come according to the 9/11 Commission, NONE of the planes black boxes were ever found? But they did find a Hijackers passport?

21: How come Firefighters Michaael Bellone and Nicholas DeMasi claim that black boxes were found?

22: How come there is 3 minutes at the end of the Flight 93 cockpit voice recorder that are missing?

23: Why are the cell phone calls from passengers on the planes so short and the caller always ends the call, only to call back? Why do some of the callers use their full name when calling people like their Mother (eg, “Hello Mum, it’s John Smith calling), and why do the callers ask so often “You believe me don’t you”, while they are telling their ‘story’? And why are the calls all from the same flight, Flight 93?

24: In 1999, the Los Alamos research site announced they had the technology to mimic any voice, does this technology have anything to do with these strange calls?

25: How could Cell phoneswork on a plane in 2001? At the cruising altitude of these planes, 32 000 feet, there is a .006% success rate for cell phone connections. It wasn’t until 2004 that American Airline planes were fitted with technology that allowed Cell phone calls. Why would Qualcomm and American Airlines spend do much money fitting out planes for cell phone use in 2004 when they apparently worked so well in 2001?

26: How come some of the 19 hijackers have been found alive and well?

27: How come some of the Hijackers were trained at U.S. Air Force bases and CIA-connected Huffman Aviation. Many of the accused “religious fanatics” acted more like degenerate contract agents, as they flashed wads of cash, visited strip clubs, drank profusely, blew cocaine, smoked weed, cavorted with strippers and had strange meetings in the drug-rich Florida keys.

28: How come Financial transactions in the days before the attack suggest that certain individuals used foreknowledge of the attack to reap huge profits. The evidence of insider trading includes:
* Huge surges in purchases of put options on stocks of the two airlines used in the attack -- United Airlines and American Airlines
* Surges in purchases of put options on stocks of reinsurance companies expected to pay out billions to cover losses from the attack -- Munich Re and the AXA Group
* Surges in purchases of put options on stocks of recorded by several financial services companies hurt by the attack -- Merrill Lynch & Co., and Morgan Stanley and Bank of America
* Huge surge in purchases of call options of stock of a weapons manufacturer expected to gain from the attack -- Raytheon
* Huge surges in purchases of 5-Year US Treasury Notes
In each case, the anomalous purchases translated into large profits as soon as the stock market opened a week after the attack: put options were used on stocks that would be hurt by the attack, and call options were used on stocks that would benefit.

29: Further to that insider knowledge, what about the report that Convar, a German computer company responsible for helping companies and accountants in New York restore their data from over 400 hard drives that were recovered from the World Trade Center's rubble. Convar recovered information from 32 different computers that suggested insider trading took place on 9-11. Richard Wagner, an expert at Convar:
“There is a suspicion that some people had advance knowledge of the approximate time of the plane crashes in order to move out amounts exceeding 100 million dollars. They thought that the records of their transactions could not be traced after the main frames were destroyed.
After their analysis, Convar handed the results over to the FBI. Although the FBI was legally bound to investigate who was responsible, to date they have done no such thing.”

30:Why did Ben Sliney, in his first day on the job as hijacking coordinator for the FAA, delayed calls to NORAD.

31:Why did NORAD just happen to run at least 7 hijacking drills on the morning of September 11th like Operation Vigilant Guardian where commercial jets crashed into government buildings in Manhattan, Washington DC, and Virginia. Were these “mock” drills, designed to distract the honest people within NORAD and the FAA?

32:What about the document called “Operation Northwoods” signed off in 1962 by the Joint Chiefs of Staff like Generals Lemnitzer and Landsdale? These men, sworn to protect the Constitution, devised a plan to create false-flag terrorism in order to engineer a war with Cuba. Their treasonous plans included the following:
-"Hijacking attempts against civil air and surface craft could appear to continue as harassing measures condoned by the Government of Cuba."
-"Exploding a few plastic bombs in carefully chosen spots, the arrest of Cuban agents and the release of prepared documents substantiating Cuban involvement also would be helpful in projecting the idea of an irresponsible government."
- "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba . . . casualty lists in U.S. newspapers cause a helpful wave of indignation."
This document was discovered in the National Archives and has been the subject of mainstream articles by ABCNEWS and others. It stands as clear evidence that the U.S. government has designed plans to engineer terrorist attacks and blame them on foreign enemies.

33: How come in the ‘Bin Laden Confession tape’ of December 14th, 2001, which security forces ‘found’ in a house in Pakistan, a left handed Bin Laden is seen writing with his right hand? And how come Bin Laden is seen wearing a gold ring on his finger, when the wearing of gold rings is forbidden in Islam? And why didn’t Osama Bin Laden look like Osama Bin Laden in this ‘Confession Tape’? Was this really Osama Bin Laden?

34: How come the ‘Hijackers’ left a ‘how to fly’ manual in Arabic, a copy of the Koran and a poster of Osama Bin Laden in the carpark? This was either the most obvious plant in the history of policing or the dumbest hijackers in the history of hijacking. The New Yorker suggests the trail was made on purpose.

35: What happened to the Gold that was stored in safes at the bottom of the WTC? The London Times estimates the god to be valued at $750 million Large amounts of gold are stored in vaults in the massive basement below the WTC, and some of this is being transported through the basement on the morning of September 11th. Several weeks later, recovery workers will discover hundreds of ingots in a service tunnel below WTC 5, along with a ten-wheel lorry and some cars (which were, presumably, transporting the gold). The lorry and cars had been crushed by falling steel, but no bodies will be reported found with them, so presumably they were abandoned before the first WTC collapse, at 9:59 a.m.

36: How come the a Air Force didn’t launch Jet fighters which can launch jet fighters to 29,000 feet in 2.5 minutes. We also know that the two co-chairmen of the 9/11 Commission have just written a book that reveals that the US military lied to the Commission about its failure to intercept the hijacked airliners.

37: The Pancake theory for the Tower collapse put forward as the official explanation doesn’t explain how the free-fall speed was so fast. Is the reason the towers came down at approximately free-fall speeds is because they came down, totally unopposed by lower structures, under the influence of gravity (which was presumably in effect). Combining that conclusion with what is seen in the videos indicates that supports for the lower floors were taken out, just in time, ahead of (to keep up with) the falls, in an illusive, very high-tech, high-energy demolition-on-demand. In other words, the towers did not passively fail, they were actively failed.

38: Why did Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate.

39: Did the $2.3 Trillion dollars missing from the Pentagon Budget that Rumsfeld declared on September 10th have anything to do with the money necessary to Black Op something as large as September 11th?

40: How come out of the 4 possible explanations for what happened on September 11th …
(A) The Official Story (a.k.a. “The Official Conspiracy Theory”). The received Bushian line: Osama, nineteen freedom-haters with box cutters, etc. As White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said, there was “no warning.”
(B) The Incompetence Theory (also the Stupidity, Arrogance, “Reno Wall” Theory). Accepts the Official Story, adds failure by the White House, FBI, CIA, NSA, etc. to heed ample warnings. This line was advanced, with much ass-covering compensation, in The 9/11 Commission Report.
(C) LIHOP (or “Let It Happen on Purpose”). Many variations, but primarily that elements of the U.S. government and the private sector were aware of the hijackers’ plans and, recognizing that 9/11 suited their policy goals, did nothing to stop it.
(D) MIHOP (“Made It Happen on Purpose”). The U.S. government or private forces planned and executed the attacks.
…The ‘Official’ version is the least likely to have occurred.

41: Was it convenient for the WTC 7 building to collapse in the same ‘Controlled Detonation’ manner as the Towers seeing as the WTC7 building happen to house a secret CIA office on the 25th floor along with The IRS, the Department of Defense, and the Secret Service occupying the ninth and tenth. The Securities and Exchange Commission (home to vast records of bank transactions) was on floors 11 through 13. The 23rd floor was home to Rudy Giuliani’s Office of Emergency Management, his crisis center. If this wasn’t enough, the mortgage of 7 WTC was held by the Blackstone Group, headed by Pete Peterson, chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations. The New York CIA station was believed to have been the largest and most important CIA domestic station outside the Washington area.

42: How come William Rodriguez – acclaimed as the ‘last man pulled out of the rubble’, a cleaner who was at the WTC, has reported several times that there was an explosion in the Basement before the first plane hit?

43: Why was it reported that the Pakistani ISI Director Lt. Gen. Mahmood Ahmed paid $100 000 to lead Hijacker, Mohamed Atta, especially in relation to the incredibly tight relationship the ISI had with funding Islamic extremists in the past.

44: Why did one of Mahmood’s subordinates tell a US undercover agent that the WTC were going to be attacked? Chairman of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, Senator Bob Graham was given such a warning in August.

45: Why did ISI Director Lt. Gen. Mahmood Ahmed, Chairman of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, Senator Bob Graham, 10-year veteran of the CIA’s clandestine operations wing, Representative Porter Goss, Senator Jon Kyl and the Pakistani ambassador, Maleeha Lodhi all meet in Pakistan weeks before September 11?

46: Was it just coincidence that ISI Director Lt. Gen. Mahmood Ahmed, Chairman of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, Senator Bob Graham, 10-year veteran of the CIA’s clandestine operations wing, Representative Porter Goss, Senator Jon Kyl and the Pakistani ambassador, Maleeha Lodhi all happened to meet again on September 11? Does anyone else find it odd that a man accused of sending money to Mohamed Atta and having foreknowledge of the attack should be meeting such powerful American figures before and on the day of September 11th?

47: Would September 11th have happened if the United States hadn’t of played god by trying to create the Soviet Union’s own Vietnam? The official story is that the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, but that wasn’t the case, in a 1998 interview, Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Jimmy Carter’s National Security Adviser, revealed that the CIA began destabilizing the pro-Soviet Afghan government six months earlier in a deliberate attempt to get the Soviets to invade and have their own Vietnam-type costly war. Brzezinski rhetorically asks, “What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Muslims or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War?”

48: Did the historic ties between the CIA and ISI and the Saudis play a larger role in the September 11 attacks? The US and Saudi Arabia give a huge amount of money (estimates range up to $40 billion total for the war) to support the mujahedeen guerrilla fighters opposing the Russians. Most of the money is managed by the ISI, Pakistan’s intelligence agency.

49: Wasn’t Osama bin Laden funded by the CIA? In early 1980, Osama bin Laden begins providing financial, organizational, and engineering aid for the mujahedeen in Afghanistan, with the advice and support of the Saudi royal family. Some, including Richard Clarke, counterterrorism “tsar” during the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations, believe he was handpicked for the job by Prince Turki al-Faisal, head of Saudi Arabia’s Secret Service. The Pakistani ISI want a Saudi prince as a public demonstration of the commitment of the Saudi royal family and as a way to ensure royal funds for the anti-Soviet forces. The agency fails to get royalty, but bin Laden, with his family’s influential ties, is good enough for the ISI. (Clarke will argue later that the Saudis and other Muslim governments used the Afghan war in an attempt to get rid of their own misfits and troublemakers.) This multinational force later coalesces into al-Qaeda.

50: Wasn’t the ISI supported warlord, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, who helped Bin Laden’s MAK orginisation also a massive opium runner and has been called “an ISI Stooge and creation”.

51: Didn’t the US help with sowing hatred in the region with USAID and the University of Nebraska, by spending millions of dollars developing and printing textbooks for Afghan schoolchildren. The textbooks are filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings, part of covert attempts to spur resistance to the Soviet occupation. For instance, children are taught to count with illustrations showing tanks, missiles, and land mines. Lacking any alternative, millions of these textbooks are used long after 1994; the Taliban are still using them in 2001. In 2002, the US will start producing less violent versions of the same books, which President Bush says will have “respect for human dignity, instead of indoctrinating students with fanaticism and bigotry.” (He will fail to mention who created those earlier books).

52: Didn’t the Pakistani ISI and CIA Gain from Drug Production in the 1980s off the backs of the very ‘Islamic Fascists’ that we are now fighting? The Pakistani ISI starts a special cell of agents who use profits from heroin production for covert actions “at the insistence of the CIA.” “This cell promotes the cultivation of opium, the extraction of heroin in Pakistani and Afghan territories under mujahedeen control. The heroin is then smuggled into the Soviet controlled areas, in an attempt to turn the Soviet troops into heroin addicts. After the withdrawal of the Soviet troops, the ISI’s heroin cell started using its network of refineries and smugglers for smuggling heroin to the Western countries and using the money as a supplement to its legitimate economy. But for these heroin dollars, Pakistan’s legitimate economy must have collapsed many years ago.” The ISI grows so powerful on this money, that “even by the shadowy standards of spy agencies, the ISI is notorious. It is commonly branded ‘a state within the state,’ or Pakistan’s ‘invisible government.’”

53: Did the ISI cut a deal with Bin Laden between 1980-1987? According to controversial author Gerald Posner, ex-CIA officials claim that Gen. Akhtar Abdul Rahman, Pakistani ISI’s head from 1980 to 1987, regularly meets bin Laden in Peshawar, Pakistan. The ISI and bin Laden form a partnership that forces Afghan tribal warlords to pay a “tax” on the opium trade. By 1985, bin Laden and the ISI are splitting annual profits of up to $100 million a year.

54: Didn’t the CIA, MI6 and ISI spread Islamic terrorist even further in March, 1985? The CIA, MI6 (Britain’s intelligence agency), and the ISI agree to launch guerrilla attacks from Afghanistan into then Soviet-controlled Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, attacking military installations, factories, and storage depots within Soviet territory, and do so until the end of the war. The CIA also gives subversive literature and Korans to the ISI, who carry them into the Soviet Union.

55: Didn’t CIA Director William Casey turn al-Qaeda into a global player? According to Australian journalist John Pilger, in this year, “CIA Director William Casey [gives] his backing to a plan put forward by Pakistan’s intelligence agency, the ISI, to recruit people from around the world to join the Afghan jihad. More than 100,000 Islamic militants [are] trained in Pakistan between 1986 and 1992, in camps overseen by the CIA and [the British intelligence agency] MI6, with the [British special forces unit] SAS training future al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters in bomb-making and other black arts. Their leaders [are] trained at a CIA camp in Virginia.” This operation is named Operation Cyclone. While the operation is originally designed to defeat the Soviets in Afghanistan, it continues for several years after the Soviets leave Afghanistan in 1989. Eventually, around 35,000 Muslim radicals from 43 Islamic countries will fight with the Afghan mujahedeen. Tens of thousands more will study in the hundreds of new madrassas (Islamic schools) funded by the ISI and CIA in Pakistan. Their main logistical base is in the Pakistani city of Peshawar.

56: Did Richard Murphy, assistant secretary of state for Near East and South Asian relations during the Reagan administration, really say, “We did spawn a monster in Afghanistan. Once the Soviets were gone [the people trained and/or funded by the US] were looking around for other targets, and Osama bin Laden has settled on the United States as the source of all evil. Irony? Irony is all over the place.”

57: Is it true that In the late 1980s, Pakistani President Benazir Bhutto, feeling the mujahedeen network has grown too strong, tells President George H. W. Bush, “You are creating a Frankenstein.” However, the warning goes unheeded. And that by 1993, President Bhutto tells Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak that Peshawar is under de facto control of the mujahedeen, and unsuccessfully asks for military help in reasserting Pakistani control over the city. Thousands of mujahedeen fighters return to their home countries after the war is over and engage in multiple acts of violence. One Western diplomat notes these thousands would never have been trained or united without US help, and says, “The consequences for all of us are astronomical.”

58: Why was the Head US Consular Official in Saudi Arabia told to issue visa to unqualified applicants in 1989? Michael Springmann, head US consular official in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, later claims that during this period he is “repeatedly told to issue visas to unqualified applicants.” He turns them down, but is repeatedly overruled by superiors. Springmann loudly complains to numerous government offices, but no action is taken. He is fired and his files on these applicants are destroyed. He later learns that recruits from many countries fighting for bin Laden against Russia in Afghanistan were funneled through the Jeddah office to get visas to come to the US, where the recruits would travel to train for the Afghan war. According to Springmann, the Jeddah consulate was run by the CIA and staffed almost entirely by intelligence agents. This visa system may have continued at least through 9/11, and 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers received their visas through Jeddah, possibly as part of this program.

59: Where are those Weapons of Mass Destruction that was the reason we had to invade Iraq after September 11th?

60: Would the up to 250 000 dead Iraqis be happy with the war on terrorism?

61: Now it has been proven that Saddam posed no threat with WMDs and had no links to al-Qaeda – how is the war on terror in Iraq justified?

62: Did Bush plan for Regime Change before becoming President?

63: Did UK Ministers know the WMDs were an excuse?

64: Did the Project For The New American Century hint that September 11th was a set up?

65: Why were we originally told that the war in Iraq could not cost more than $100 Billion, but has actually cost to date$313 349 887 731

66: Why were so many clues missed that warned America about the pending September 11th attack? Was it incompetence or was it because they knew it was coming?

67: Why was FBI Deputy Director, John O'Neill told to stop investigating Al-qeada accounts?

68: Why did Atta decide to study at Opa Locka, a famous hub of 6 Navy training bases and includes government partners like U.S. Coast Guard Air Station, Police (Miami-Dade) Aviation Unit? And why was Atta allowed to study since he was stopped by the police for driving without a license and also for violating his visa?

69: If there was no premeditated plans for an attack on Iraq, how come two U.S. carrier battle groups arrive in the Gulf of Arabia just off the Pakistani coast before 9/11, and 17,000 U.S. troops join more than 23,000 NATO troops in Egypt for Operation 'Bright Star' on 9/11? What was the purpose of both of these operations?

70: Why did the Bin Laden website expire on September 11th?

71: Is it just a coincidence that the Bush family and Bin Laden family are connected through the Carlyle Group? And isn’t it a coincidence that Calyle, being a defense contractor, has increased its profits because of the war their sons have kick started? And what did George HW Bush say to the bin Laden family in 2000?

72: Why was Vladimir Putin’s warning to the CIA about a possible terrorist attack ignored? Vladimir Putin was so certain of the information he received in the summer of 2001 of an impending attack that he personally instructed Russian intelligence to tell Bush "in the strongest possible terms" (his own words on Sept. 15, 2001) of an impending attack involving airports and government. The Russians told the CIA that 25 terrorist pilots had been specially trained to execute suicide missions. It was around the same time that the FBI was receiving tips about suspicious Arabic men in U.S. flight schools.

73: Why was the French Secret Service ignored when they informed the CIA about terrorist attacks on America?

74: When Italian Deputy Prime Minister Gianfranco Fini informed the CIA about a possible attack on the American president "with the use of an airplane", why was he ignored?

75: When did President Mubarak, of Egypt, informed the CIA about a possible attack on America with an "airplane stuffed with explosives", why was he ignored?

76: Why is the Bush administration so strongly against a real investigation into the events of 9-11?

77: Why did John Ashcroft stops flying commercial, citing an unidentified "threat" in July 2001?

78: Why did Bush dissolve the Bin Laden Task Force? What would have happened had this focused and knowledgeable group been in place 9 months before 911?

79: Why were there plans to invade Afghanistan before September 11?

80: Why by July 1st, were 3 Senators warning of an impending attack on the US?

81: If all these warnings of an impending attack from Bin Laden were coming in why did the ISI allow Bin Laden to have dialysis in July?

82: Why did the CIA meet with Bin Laden months before the attack?

83: How did Hijacker Khalid Almihdhar, who was on the terrorist watchlist, reenter the US without any problems months before September 11?

84: Counterterrorisim ‘tsar’ Richard Clarke warns on July 5thy that a spectacular Terrorst attack, why was he ignored by the FAA and FBI?

85: Why did, on July 10th, the FBI ignore FBI agent Ken Williams who warns people of investigative interest are all learning to fly planes. Williams began investigating October 1996.

86: Why did Attorney General Ashcroft tells the FBI that he doesn’t want to hear any7thing more about Terrorists wanting to launch attacks.

87: And why did Ashcroft oppose counter terrorist funding on September 10th?

88: Why were the US still meeting with the Taliban in August 2nd?

89: Why was the memo called ‘Bin Laden determined to strike the US” not enacted upon?

90: Why did America not react when the Israeli Government warn them in August that an attack was imminent?

91: Why wasn’t the head of the CIA’s Counter Terrorism head listened to on August the 15th? Cofer Black, head of the CIA’s Counter Terrorism Center, says in a speech to the Department of Defense’s annual Convention of Counterterrorism, “We are going to be struck soon, many Americans are going to die, and it could be in the US.” Black later complains that top leaders are unwilling to act at this time unless they are given “such things as the attack is coming within the next few days and here is what they are going to hit.”

92: Why was the New York Air National Guard Unit sent to Saudi Arabia weeks before Sept 11 and were only due back on September 11th at 3pm. Effectively stopping these fighters from scrambling on September 11th

93: Did the PNAC have a hand in the September 11th events? This is what Thomas Donnelly, deputy executive director of the PNAC, explains to the Washington Post weeks before the attacks, that the US should embrace its role as imperialist hegemon over the world. He says many important politicians privately agree with him. “There’s not all that many people who will talk about it openly,” he says. “It’s discomforting to a lot of Americans. So they use code phrases like ‘America is the sole superpower.’” He also says, “I think Americans have become used to running the world and would be very reluctant to give it up, if they realized there were a serious challenge to it.”

94: Why was there still no movement from America when Mossad gave the CIA a list of terrorists living in the US, and 4 of the hijackers names are on this list. This was two weeks before September 11.

95: Why was a report sent by the FBI’s New York office recommending that an investigation be launched “to determine if [Khalid] Almihdhar is still in the United States” turned down? The New York office tries to convince FBI headquarters to open a criminal investigation, but it is immediately turned down.

96: Why was another report edited so as to not allow a search of Zacarias Moussaoui’s possessions? A previously mentioned unnamed RFU (Radical Fundamentalism Unit) agent edits the Minnesota FBI’s request (see August 23-27, 2001) for a FISA search warrant to search Zacarias Moussaoui’s possessions. Minnesota is trying to prove that Moussaoui is connected to al-Qaeda through a rebel group in Chechnya, but the RFU agent removes information connecting the Chechnya rebels to al-Qaeda.

97: Why in the final weeks before the attack did the FBI finally respond to tracing Khalid Almihdhar by appointing someone who had little experience with theInternational Terrorism Squad

98: Why did America still do nothing even when Egypt warn 10 days before the attack that al-Qaeda are about to launch attacks.

99: Why in late August were further fighter planes sent overseas?

100: Why did two large tenants of the WTC building trade stocks in a suspicious manner, suggesting they had insider knowledge of the impending disaster?

101: WHY At 2.40pm on September 11th, as the buildings are smoldering and the first intelligence reports are being demanded – Donald Rumsfeld first suggests that Iraq should be hit in response!

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Ok, jag ska ta en liten aptitretare bara innan jag lägger mig.

Vilket material är mest brandtåligt vad gäller hållfasthet? Stål eller betong? Vad säger 911 mysteries?

P.s. Bushfuck är en debattsabotör.

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Jag tittar kritiskt på båda sidor och då är det tydligt vilken version som håller för en granskning.


Det tror jag inte att du gör, du har helt enkelt bestämt dig för att den officiella historien är sann.

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googlevideo länken funkar fint för mig...

Men den är ju över 2timmar lång! Kan dom inte sammanfatta i en tio minuters film så är det bara massa utfyllnad med propaganda! haha

Ska se den nu, ska bli intressant iaf

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zpz <-- Debunka dessa 100 professorers inställning till 911 Omissions report är du snäll...

"Listed below are statements by 100 professors that contradict or are critical of the 9/11 Commission Report. Their collective voices give credibility to the claim that the 9/11 Commission Report is tragically flawed."

http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html

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BuckFuch:

"7: How come the melting point of the steel was 2,800 degrees F, yet the maximum temperature that can be reached by hydrocarbon jet fuel is 1,520 degrees F. Yet the clean up operation found molten steel in the basement 5 weeks after the collapse. The claim is that only high explosives could have generated the heat necessary to create so much molten steel."

-Var någonstans har du hittat att stålet smälte? Stål behöver inte smälta helt och hållet för att tappa bärkraft, det vilken snubbe som helst som har läst i grundskolan, eller du kanske missade dom lektionerna? :)

Du vet att WTC även innehöll aluminium? Kan det ha varit det som smällte och som de sedan hittade i rasmassorna, du vet att aluminium har en lägre smältgrad va?

"10: How come in the entire history of high rise firefighting, no burning building has ever collapsed in on itself in the manner of a controlled explosion, yet it happened three times on September 11th?"

-Har det någonsin hänt att ett passagerarplan av storleken Boeing har flygit in i skyskrapa innan 2001? Kom inte med den där historien om det lilla plan som flög in i Empire State Building för en herrans massa år sedan; 1. Det planet var betydligt mindre. 2. Det var inte i närheten av de hastigheter som planen hade 2001. När det gäller WTC7 så blev denna skyskrapa rätt skadat på grund av att det träffades av en massa bråte från WTC.

"11: How come in every video of the Tower collapses, there are mini explosions 30 stories beneath the collapse shock wave?"

-Jämför en kontrollerad rivning (finns en massa videos på nätet, använd google) med WTC 1&2 och när dessa två torn rasar. Ser du någon skillnad, eller rättare sagt hör du någon skillnad? när man utför en kontrollerad rivning så smäller det så in i helskotta, det gör det inte när WTC 1&2 rasar, det gäller även WTC7.

"15: How come no bodies, and very little debris was found at the Flight 93 crash site in Shanksville?"

-Jag vill att du gör ett test, be någon flyga ett stort passagerarplan i 500-800km/h rakt ner i backen så får vi se vad som händer och hur mycket som blir kvar av planet.

"17: How come two planes landed at Cleveland Hopkins Airport on September 11th that closed the entire airport?"

-Kan för lite av den historien men var det inte så att det var en jäkla massa plan som var tvungna att landa, kan denna historia bero på säkerhetsskäl, svårt att veta att inte dessa plan också innehåller terrorister.

"20: How come according to the 9/11 Commission, NONE of the planes black boxes were ever found? But they did find a Hijackers passport?"

-De har visst hittat svarta lådor, kolla in tråden om Pentagon där jag länkar om detta.

Detta får räcka så länge, återkommer med fler svar :)

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-Var någonstans har du hittat att stålet smälte? Stål behöver inte smälta helt och hållet för att tappa bärkraft, det vilken snubbe som helst som har läst i grundskolan, eller du kanske missade dom lektionerna? :)


Du kanske inte kan engelska så bra?

"Yet the clean up operation found molten steel in the basement 5 weeks after the collapse."

Molten steel in the basement 5 weeks after the collapse, betyder alltså "smält stål i källaren 5 veckor efter kollapsen." :)

Det handlar inte om att stålet behövde smälta för att det skulle bli en kollaps, utan att stålet faktiskt hade smält.

Och det var så att det hittades smält, glödhett stål under tornen och WTC 7 upp till 8 veckor efteråt, inte 5.

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När det gäller WTC7 så blev denna skyskrapa rätt skadat på grund av att det träffades av en massa bråte från WTC.


Var snäll och leta reda på ett annat exempel där en skadad, brinnande byggnad rasat lika fint som WTC 7, tack.

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"11: How come in every video of the Tower collapses, there are mini explosions 30 stories beneath the collapse shock wave?"


Squibsen / rökpuffarna man ser under kollapsvågen när tornen rasar ser exakt ut som när byggnader demoleras.

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elsueco77 wrote:
BuckFuch:

"7: How come the melting point of the steel was 2,800 degrees F, yet the maximum temperature that can be reached by hydrocarbon jet fuel is 1,520 degrees F. Yet the clean up operation found molten steel in the basement 5 weeks after the collapse. The claim is that only high explosives could have generated the heat necessary to create so much molten steel."

-Var någonstans har du hittat att stålet smälte? Stål behöver inte
smälta helt och hållet för att tappa bärkraft, det vilken snubbe som helst som har läst i grundskolan, eller du kanske missade dom lektionerna? :)

Du vet att WTC även innehöll aluminium? Kan det ha varit det som smällte och som de sedan hittade i rasmassorna, du vet att aluminium har en lägre smältgrad va?


Så du tror att det var smält aluminium 6 veckor efter 9-11 som hittades under WTC 1, 2 , och 7 ?

Räddningsarbetare och brandmän som var där varje dag i 3 månader förstår nog skillnade mellan aluminium och stål ,
smält stål hittades även WTC7:s kärna där endast små bränder huserade och ingen jumbojet eller flygbränsle var i närheten.
Dessutom försökte de släcka de 3 bränderna i 3 månader
? mycket vatten pumpades in , och ändå brann det vilket tyder på
thermite.
Vi vet att stål smälter vid ca 1500 grader celsius/ 2800 grader Fahrenheit och flygbränsle brinner vid max 800 grader celsius och
då endast en kort tid i detta fall , kontorsbränderna uppskattas till ca: 400-450 grader celsius max.

Brandmän kommenterar:

Länk 1 : " Molten steel running , like lava , like a vulcano , like a foundry" = som ett industristålbad.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3060923273573302287

Länk 2 : "this is how it's been since day one and this is 6 weeks later , red hot , like an oven , probably 1500 degrees"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2501925614149874222

Stål får en röd-orange färg vid 1650 grader Fahrenheit och blir ljusare i färgen ju varmare det blir.

BRÄNDERNA I TORNEN KAN OMÖJLIGT HA ORSAKAT DESSA TEMPERATURER 6 VECKOR EFTER 9-11.

The temperature at the core of "the pile," is near 2000 degrees
Fahrenheit, according to fire officials, who add that the fires are too deep for firefighters to get to. [ABC News, 9/18/01]

3 MÅNADER EFTER KONSTANT SLÄCKNINGSARBETE:
December 19, 2001

Firefighters have extinguished almost all but the last remnants of underground fires that have burned at the World Trade Center site for more than three months since the Sept. 11 terrorist attack.

The fires that began with the Sept. 11 attacks had been strong enough that firetrucks had to spray a nearly constant jet of water on them. At times, the flames slowed the work of clearing the site.

"You couldn't even begin to imagine how much water was pumped in there," said Tom Manley of the Uniformed Firefighters Association, the largest fire department union. "It was like you were creating a giant lake."

Thermite contains its own supply of oxygen, and does not require any external source such as air. Consequently, it cannot be smothered and may ignite in any environment, given sufficient initial heat. It will burn just as well while underwater, for example, and cannot even be extinguished with water, as water sprayed on a thermite reaction will instantly be boiled into steam

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/thermite_index.html

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Jag har tyvärr inte hunnit se klart hela filmen ännu men intressant är den. Blev väldigt besviken på den sönderklippta intervjun med byggarbetaren, väldigt fel gjort... men men...

I filmen så står det att Judy D. Wood är en "Dental Engineer" och på http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/Wood_Bio.html så står det:

"Dr. Wood received her

* B.S. (Civil Engineering, 1981) (Structural Engineering),

* M.S (Engineering Mechanics, 1983), and

* Ph.D. (Materials Engineering Science, 1992) from the Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University in Blacksburg, Virginia"

Hur står det till? Har hon bara gjort sitt arbete inom tandläkar yrket?
Vad är det jag missat? Om något?

Posted on: 2007/1/19 15:31
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Du kanske inte kan engelska så bra?

"Yet the clean up operation found molten steel in the basement 5 weeks after the collapse."

Molten steel in the basement 5 weeks after the collapse, betyder alltså "smält stål i källaren 5 veckor efter kollapsen." :)

Det handlar inte om att stålet behövde smälta för att det skulle bli en kollaps, utan att stålet faktiskt hade smält.

Och det var så att det hittades smält, glödhett stål under tornen och WTC 7 upp till 8 veckor efteråt, inte 5.


Jag menar att stålet inte var smällt när tornen rasade, stålet försvagades vilket gjorde att stålet tappade bärkraft, länka till ett dokument (inte någon konspirationsvideo) som säger att det hittades smält stål 6 veckor efter. Kolla in denna länken: http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_molten_steel.html

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Var snäll och leta reda på ett annat exempel där en skadad, brinnande byggnad rasat lika fint som WTC 7, tack.


Finns inget annat exempel på det som hände 9/11 så det blir lite svårt att jämföra, förklara skadan på hörnet och 18 våningar upp på WTC7 och hur byggnaden kunde stå på grund av den skadan

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Squibsen / rökpuffarna man ser under kollapsvågen när tornen rasar ser exakt ut som när byggnader demoleras.


Luft som pressas ut när det kommer ett antal ton tryckandes ovanifrån, fortfarande inga smällar som hörs när man gör en kontrollerad rivning, har du sett videos om det förresten och jämfört med 9/11? Eller installerade de tysta bomber i WTC?

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"förklara skadan på hörnet och 18 våningar upp på WTC7 och hur byggnaden kunde stå på grund av den skadan"
Har du någon länk eller bild på den skadan.

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Jag har börjat titta på den här skiten två gånger nu, men blir tvungen att sluta efter 7 minuter. Vilken smörja! De som klippt ihop detta verkar måna om att tala om vilka man ska, och vilka man inte ska lyssna på. Törs man fråga vad de som gjort denna sönderklippning har för referenser som gör att man skall lyssna på dem?

Ett exempel på deras DESPERATA iver att kritisera: Berättarrösten till 911 Mysteries säger att tvillingtornen pulveriserades till damm. BEEEP! Pajasklipparna avbryter; först med att presentera lite ovidkommande data om ett dammprov från Groud Zero och sedan med texten "For total pulverization,... [...] It would have taken no where near that amount of time and manpower to cleanup dust."

Pjasklipparna försöker få det till att 911 Mysteries hävdat att det ENBART blivit pulver kvar av tvillingtornen. Nice try!

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Ni har säkert sett denna video men tål tydligen att upprepas ....länk...http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4556787288866368337

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"förklara skadan på hörnet och 18 våningar upp på WTC7 och hur byggnaden kunde stå på grund av den skadan"
Har du någon länk eller bild på den skadan.


Har du verkligen missat den bilden?

http://judi.kw.nl/uploads/fok/wtc7-sw-corner1.jpg

För det verkar som att alla konspirationsteoretiker bortser från denna bilden hmm...

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Ännu en still bild .FEJK löng är den,Tror du den var byggd på en kortlek va? Cia s Fbi HQ du är inte bara hjärntvättad ,desutom hjärn död (ursäkta mitt uttryck) jag skrttatar så jag har tårar,mmmmuuaahhaaahhha. DU hånar dom riktiga hjältarna och deras familj.sorgligt men sant.. DU kan ju förklara hur den blev skadad?????? (eller din kusin har kanske hört något om den )

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Om huset hade rasat från den skadan så hade den inte rasat nedåt utan åt sidan.

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