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9/11 - the big cover-up?
Peter Tatchell September 12, 2007 10:30 AM http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/p ... /911_the_big_coverup.html Six years after 9/11, the American public have still not been provided with a full and truthful account of the single greatest terror attack in US history. What they got was a turkey. The 9/11 Commission was hamstrung by official obstruction. It never managed to ascertain the whole truth of what happened on September 11 2001. The chair and vice chair of the 9/11 Commission, respectively Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, assert in their book, Without Precedent, that they were "set up to fail" and were starved of funds to do a proper investigation. They also confirm that they were denied access to the truth and misled by senior officials in the Pentagon and the federal aviation authority; and that this obstruction and deception led them to contemplate slapping officials with criminal charges. Despite the many public statements by 9/11 commissioners and staff members acknowledging they were repeatedly lied to, not a single person has ever been charged, tried, or even reprimanded, for lying to the 9/11 Commission. From the outset, the commission seemed to be hobbled. It did not start work until over a year after the attacks. Even then, its terms of reference were suspiciously narrow, its powers of investigation curiously limited and its time-frame for producing a report unhelpfully short - barely a year to sift through millions of pages of evidence and to interview hundreds of key witnesses. The final report did not examine key evidence, and neglected serious anomalies in the various accounts of what happened. The commissioners admit their report was incomplete and flawed, and that many questions about the terror attacks remain unanswered. Nevertheless, the 9/11 Commission was swiftly closed down on August 21 2004. I do not believe in conspiracy theories. I prefer rigorous, evidence-based analysis that sifts through the known facts and utilises expert opinion to draw conclusions that stand up to critical scrutiny. In other words, I believe in everything the 9/11 Commission was not. The failings of the official investigation have fuelled too many half-baked conspiracy theories. Some of the 9/11 "truth" groups promote speculative hypotheses, ignore innocent explanations, cite non-expert sources and jump to conclusions that are not proven by the known facts. They convert mere coincidence and circumstantial evidence into cast-iron proof. This is no way to debunk the obfuscations and evasions of the 9/11 report. But even amid the hype, some of these 9/11 groups raise valid and important questions that were never even considered, let alone answered, by the official investigation. The American public has not been told the complete truth about the events of that fateful autumn morning six years ago. What happened on 9/11 is fundamentally important in its own right. But equally important is the way the 9/11 cover-up signifies an absence of democratic, transparent and accountable government. Establishing the truth is, in part, about restoring honesty, trust and confidence in American politics. There are dozens of 9/11 "truth" websites and campaign groups. I cannot vouch for the veracity or credibility of any of them. But what I can say is that as well as making plenty of seemingly outrageous claims; a few of them raise legitimate questions that demand answers. Four of these well known "tell the truth" 9/11 websites are: 1) Scholars for 9/11 Truth, which includes academics and intellectuals from many disciplines. 2) 250+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns' a website that cites over 250 pieces of evidence that allegedly contradict, or were omitted from, the 9/11 Commission report. 3) The 911 Truth Campaign that, as well as offering its own evidence and theories, includes links to more than 20 similar websites. 4) Patriots Question 9/11, perhaps the most plausible array of distinguished US citizens who question the official account of 9/11, including General Wesley Clark, former Nato commander in Europe, and seven members and staffers of the official 9/11 Commission, including the chair and vice chair. In all, this website documents the doubts of 110+ senior military, intelligence service, law enforcement and government officials; 200+ engineers and architects; 50+ pilots and aviation professionals; 150+ professors; 90+ entertainment and media people; and 190+ 9/11 survivors and family members. Although this is an impressive roll call, it doesn't necessarily mean that these expert professionals are right. Nevertheless, their scepticism of the official version of events is reason to pause and reflect. More and more US citizens are critical of the official account. The respected Zogby polling organisation last week found that 51% of Americans want Congress to probe President Bush and Vice-President Cheney regarding the truth about the 9/11 attacks; 67% are also critical of the 9/11 Commission for not investigating the bizarre, unexplained collapse of the 47-storey World Trade Centre building 7 (WTC7). This building was not hit by any planes. Unlike WTC3, which was badly damaged by falling debris from the Twin Towers but which remained standing, WTC7 suffered minor damage but suddenly collapsed in a neat pile, as happens in a controlled demolition. In a 2006 interview with anchorman Evan Soloman of CBC's Sunday programme, the vice chair of the 9/11 Commission, Lee Hamilton, was reminded that the commission report failed to even mention the collapse of WTC7 or the suspicious hurried removal of the building debris from the site - before there could be a proper forensic investigation of what was a crime scene. Hamilton could only offer the lame excuse that the commissioners did not have "unlimited time" and could not be expected to answer "every question" the public asks. There are many, many more strange unexplained facts concerning the events of 9/11. You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to be puzzled and want an explanation, or to be sceptical concerning the official version of events. Six years on from those terrible events, the survivors, and the friends and families of those who died, deserve to know the truth. Is honesty and transparency concerning 9/11 too much to ask of the president and Congress? What is needed is a new and truly independent commission of inquiry to sort coincidence and conjecture from fact, and to provide answers to the unsolved anomalies in the evidence available concerning the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. Unlike the often-stymied first investigation, this new commission should be granted wide-ranging subpoena powers and unfettered access to government files and officials. George Bush should be called to testify, without his minders at hand to brief and prompt him. America - and the world - has a right to know the truth.
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Efter att ha kollat upp vad Thomas Kean och Lee Hamilton har kritiserat så är de att USA kunde ha förhindrat de 19 kapningarna och att CIA och FAA döljer att de kunde ha gjort det. De ifrågasätter inget annat. Så att 19 kapare genomförde 911 anser de var riktigt.
Sedan var Thomas Kean kritiserat även när han ledde September 11 Commission för att ha för dåliga kunskaper om utrikespolitik och nationell säkerhet för att kunna leda undersökningen på rätt sätt. Lee Hamilton är med i Bush ”The Iraq Study Group”. |
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Efter att ha kollat upp vad Thomas Kean och Lee Hamilton har kritiserat så är de att USA kunde ha förhindrat de 19 kapningarna och att CIA och FAA döljer att de kunde ha gjort det. De ifrågasätter inget annat. Så att 19 kapare genomförde 911 anser de var riktigt. Sedan var Thomas Kean kritiserat även när han ledde September 11 Commission för att ha för dåliga kunskaper om utrikespolitik och nationell säkerhet för att kunna leda undersökningen på rätt sätt. Lee Hamilton är med i Bush ”The Iraq Study Group”.[/quote] Självklart zink, visst kunde CIA förhindrat detta, precis som med Kennedy morden.......
Posted on: 2007/9/14 9:07
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Taxdollar at work.....
Israel has the American empire by the balls, most notably via the Israeli lobby in Washington, headed by AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee). The Neo-Conservatives, many of whom are dual citizenship Israeli-Americans, creating a dangerous political conflict of interest, are structuring the foreign policy of the United States of America around the best interests of the state of Israel and it's standing in the middle east, thus fomenting war with Afghanistan and Iraq to fulfill the strategic regional objectives of Israel, primarily and ostensibly it's 'security'. 9/11 was a joint US-Israeli false flag operation designed to garner the public support necessary for the implementation of the Zionist agenda; the "New Pearl Harbor" that the PNAC (Neo-Con Washington thinktank 'Project for a New American Century) authors called for in a document called Rebuilding America's Defenses (pdf). 9/11 was the 'catalyzing event' presciently mentioned in Rebuilding America's Defenses that opened the door for the implementation of the PNAC agenda, which, in a nutshell and without hyperbole, is nothing less than American imperialism, a la Zionista. Military strikes on Iran are next on the Zionist agenda, but with such a lack of support from the public, 2007 could be the year we see the next false flag terror attack hit a major US city, or as some have speculated, a Gulf of Tonkin type incident, such as the one that served as the pretext for military action in Vietnam. If Israel were to carry out such a false flag attack on an American warship to provoke the US to attack Israel's enemy (in this case Iran), it would not be without precedent. In order to fully understand the Israeli agenda to infiltrate and manipulate the US govt and put a grasp on the seemingly absurd notion of an Israeli attack on it's most important ally, an historical overview is necessary. Like this one, which I found helpful despite there being no reference at all to 9/11. Israel is a nation that seems to suffer from a kind of collective paranoid schizophrenia and persecution complex (created by, or at least compounded by Zionist propaganda), which has made of it a dangerously unstable, hostile state. The rhetoric coming out of Washington and Israel since 9/11 with regard to the threat of potential nuclear weapons programs being undertaken by "rogue" middle eastern states like Iran, is the most transparent, hypocritical balderdash ever to insult the intelligence of the American people and the people of the world, in light of the fact that Israel, armed to the teeth with nukes, clearly constitutes the gravest threat to the region. Iran's nuclear development program is quite legal under international law, and the Iranian government has abided by it's international obligations by permitting UN weapons inspectors unlimited access to it's facilities. Israel, on the other hand, developed it's nuclear program by way of deceit, theft, and espionage, without having to endure the economic sanctions, worldwide condemnation and the threat of war that the Iranian people are living with. Zionist influence in Washington is now so powerful, and so pervasive, that US foreign policy is created and implemented by almost no other criteria than that which is in accordance with the regional objectives of the state of Israel; thus the attacks on Afghanistan, the insanity of pre-emptive war with Iraq, and the inevitable strikes on Iran. 9/11 was a false flag attack on the US, designed to manufacture public support for war with Israel's enemies, the arab states. Whether it was orchestrated by the Mossad alone or with cooperation from Zionist-controlled US intelligence agencies like the CIA and NSA is irrelevent - it was an Israeli psy-op, and it was a roaring success.
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Att CIA kunde ha förhindrat kaparna där är vi överens men hur de skulle ha kunnat förhindra Kennedymorden det får du utveckla för de anser jag att de inte kunde. CIA vilket rapporters i vanligt media hade ca 20 agenter som fått information kaparna även om deras exakta förehavande inte gick att lista ut. Man visste dessutom om att två av dem hörde till al-Qaida men då de hade visum i USA fick CIA inte rapporter detta till FBI. FBI å sin sida var även de efter kaparna och de undersökte Ziad Samir Jarrah på flygskolan men kunde inte göra något då de inte var förbjudet att ta flyglektioner i USA för utlänningar. Att CIA och FBI inte samarbetade har angetts som en av orsakerna som bidrog till att kaparna inte fångades in så detta har nu ändrats så nu arbetar 10 personer från vardera organisationen hos varandra med terroristbekämpning. Enligt en FBI agent som jobbar hos CIA får USA idag in 50 allvarliga terrorhot i veckan. |
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Pissenkelt Zink.. det hade bara varit att låta bli att genomföra det...
Posted on: 2007/9/14 12:18
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Om du hävdar att CIA genomförde 911 så stämmer de hur lite som helst vad journalister och media folk har lyckats ta reda på utan att vara i CIA:s ledband eller domän. Enligt dem så var det utan var konstigt på något sätt 19 kapare från Mellanöstern som genomförde 911. Det är bara konstigt för dem som missat att motivet till 911 var att hämnas på USA:s stöd till Israel. Det har ju kapas åtskilliga plan av folk från Mellanöstern så ytterligare fyra till 911 var inget märkvärdigt. Att påstå att det var omöjligt för 19 kapare från Mellanöstern att kapa fyra plan 911 visar att man har glömt det mesta av Mellansösterns historia. |
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Jag menade Kennedymorden...... 911 är långt mer komplicerat med flera medaktörer vilket kommer att visa sig......
Posted on: 2007/9/14 14:00
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Jag har redan bett dig att visa hur CIA stod för Kennedymorden. |
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Hur jag än försökte så skulle det inte kunna tränga igenom teflonet...sorry.
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9/11 - the big cover-up?
Even the chair of the 9/11 Commission now admits that the official evidence they were given was 'far from the truth'. http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/p ... /911_the_big_coverup.html
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Oj är det så svårt för dig att få ur dig en förklaring. |
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Han refererar till Scholars for 9/11 truth som aldrig svarar mig. Efter som det sista inte var ett riktig mail utan man skrev i en ruta på deras hemsida så har jag frågat dem: (På svenska) Går det att bevisa att explosionsljud kommer från sprängämnen? Jag har provat att spela in kontrollerade demolering från videor på Implosionworld och jämföra dem med explosionsljuden från WTC och OM det skulle gå att bevisa att explosionsljud kommer från sprängämnen så kommer resultatet att bli att explosionsljud från WTC INTE kommer från sprängämnen. Det finns hur mullriga den kontrollerade sprängningen än låter på videon alltid med en ljudspik från sprängämnena och sådana ljudspikar saknas helt i explosionsljuden från WTC. |
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En samvetsfråga : Spelar det någon som helst roll att brandmän poliser och andra närvarande vid tillfället hörde explosioner? eller det att vittnen som befann sig i husen kastades kring som vantar, vilket vissa vittnat om? som sagt, spelar det någon som helst roll, eller är det på det viset att sanningen är att söka på annat ställe än hos vittnena?
Posted on: 2007/9/15 11:34
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Det är ändå inte BEVISAT att explosionerna och explosionsljuden kommer från sprängämnen. Man måste kunna länka explosionerna och explosionsljuden till sprängämnen och det har ingen lyckats med. För hade man lyckats med att bevisa att explosionerna och explosionsljuden kommer från sprängämnen så skulle man kunna säga vilka sprängämnen det var som t.ex. ”det explosionsljudet från WTC visar att det troligaste sprängämnet är TNT”. Men återigen. Alla kan prova om man har något ljudinspelningsprogram som visar ljudvågorna som Wavelab att jämföra WTC explosionsljuden med ljud från kontrollerade demoleringar. Mina resultat visar att WTC explosionsljuden inte kan komma från sprängämnen och detta har jag ju starka indikationer på så det som kan gå emot detta är att någon kan visa på explosions ljud från WTC som liknar ljudet från en kontrollerad demolering. Jag håller på att fundera hur jag ska kunna visa mina reslutat på ett bra sätt. |
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Så det är helt uppenbart att vittnesuppgifter är något man ska bortse ifrån.....(nu tänkte jag något som hade varit jävligt ofint att skriva)
Posted on: 2007/9/15 12:09
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Truthers brukar inte anse att man ska lyssna på alla de hundratals vittnen som såg AA 77 vid Pentagon. Sen var det såvitt jag vet inga vittnen som hörde några demoleringsexplosioner vid WTC7-kollapsen.
Posted on: 2007/9/15 19:34
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wtf snackar du om inga vittnen.. Kolla bara på "last man out" eller på alla filmer man ser om och om igen på brandmännen som berättar om hur det exploderade, eller flertalet folk som berättar om hur det först kom en expltion och sen en till..
Dessutom har jag inte hört något om hundratals personer som såg pentagon krashen. Men om det nu var ett plan skulle jag gärna se alla säkerhetskamera filmer på det.. Undra vart dom tog vägen.. mycket skummt.....
Posted on: 2007/9/15 19:58
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Jag pratar om explosioner i direkt samband med kollapsen vilket borde hörts om det varit en demolering. Explosioner inträffar i bränder, det är normalt och inget som visar på sprängämnen. Quote: By around noon, WTC 7 was determined unstable and interior operations ended. Operating forces to the east were hampered by the prevailing breeze from the west which obscured the building due to smoke and debris in the air. Because of this, many firefighters were unknowingly close to the building when it collapsed, some as close as 200'. http://forums.firehouse.com/showthread.php?threadid=61346 Quote: Dessutom har jag inte hört något om hundratals personer som såg pentagon krashen. http://eric.bart.free.fr/iwpb/witness.html http://www.geocities.com/someguyyoudontknow33/witnesses.htm Quote: Joël v.d. Reijden created the following summary of the frequencies of specific observations in the eyewitness reports described in the compilations by Eric Bart and SomeGuyYouDontKnow33. http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/witnesses.html
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Posted on: 2007/9/15 21:25
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911 INSIDE/OUTSIDE/LEFTSIDE/RIGHTSIDE/UPSIDE DOWN JOB?
THE TRUTH IS SHOCKING AS HELL. MEL GIBSON KNOWS. BUT THEY SHUT HIM UP. THE REASON MOST PEOPLE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE IDEA OF 911 BEING AN INSIDE JOB, IS BECAUSE THEY CANNOT FATHOM HOW ANY LOYAL AMERICAN CAN BE SO TREASONOUS, MUCH LESS THE NUMBER IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN TO PULL OFF 911 ON THE SCALE THAT INVESTIGATION IS SHOWING IT WAS DONE ON. THAT IS UNDERSTANDABLE THAT THEY WOULD NOT WANT TO BELIEVE SUCH A THING ESPECIALLY OF "OUR" LEADERS IN "OUR GOVERNMENT". I MYSELF, WAS TOTALLY IN THE DARK ON THESE MATTERS UNTIL A LITTLE OVER 2 YEARS AGO, AND I AM STILL COMING AROUND TO UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE SHOCKING TRUTH REALLY IS. FIRST, WHO REALLY CONTROLS "OUR GOVERNMENT"? FASCISM IS ALSO RIGHTLY CALLED CORPORATISM, WHICH IS A GLOBAL PHILOSOPHY IN FULL PRACTICE. FASCISM IS USED IN CONCERT WITH THE INTERTWINING PRACTICED PHILOSOPHIES OF COMMUNISM AND NAZISM, PRODUCING THE FULL BLOWN TYRANNY WE SEE IN OPERATION IN AMERICA TODAY. SECOND, HOW AWARE IS EVERYONE OF DUAL NATIONAL CITIZENSHIP? AND WHAT NATION HAS THE MOST UNBELIEVABLY NUMEROUS DUAL OTHER NATION/USA CITIZENS IN THE MOST PROFOUNDLY POWERFUL TOP POSITIONS OF THE USA GOVERNMENT? ISRAEL IS THAT NATION. THERE ARE DUAL ISRAEL/USA CITIZENS EVERYWHERE IN OUR GOVERNMENT, FROM THE SUPREME COURT TO HOMELAND SECURITY, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, IMMIGRATION, THE FBI, CIA, NSA, THE MILITARY (EVEN MANY GENERALS). THEY ARE EVERYWHERE, JUST AS THEY ARE EVERYWHERE IN ALMOST EVERY SINGLE CORPORATION IN AMERICA, INCLUDING ALL THE MAJOR MEDIA, TV, NEWSPAPERS, ETC. IF YOU ARE NOT AFRAID TO OPEN YOUR EYES AND INVESTIGATE, AND NOT LET THE SUPPOSED "TABOOS" AND SUPPOSED "SACRILEGE" OF QUESTIONING "HOLIER THAN THOU" "PHARISEES AND SADDUCEES", YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT EVEN WHEN DRUNK, MEL GIBSON WAS MORE RIGHT THAN MOST OF US WILL EVER KNOW. AND BEFORE YOU START CALLING ME AN ANTI-SEMITE, GO HERE AND INVESTIGATE WHAT RELIGIOUS JEWS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS: http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/zanda.cfm AND THAT'S ONLY THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. FOR A GOOD PLACE TO START DIGGING FURTHER GO HERE: http://www.erichufschmid.net AND DIG DEEP! DON'T FLINCH! OPEN YOUR MIND AND STOP LIVING AND BELIEVING THE LIES THAT HAVE BROUGHT OUR WORLD TO THIS CURRENT INSANITY. WANT A PEEK AT THE LIES COMING OUT OF OUR GOVERNMENT FROM "INSIDE THEIR HEADS"? THEN CHECK THIS OUT: http://Ken-Welch.com YOU WILL FIND THIS VERY VERY INTERESTING!
Posted on: 2007/9/16 11:01
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