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Du är VoFerisk och har lite dålig fattningsförmåga.

Det snurrar för dig - är det normalt?

Jag talar om normala principer - att de är samma på olika nivåer, partikel, atom etc - du borde kunna inse vad som är att något snurrar normalt kring något, i relation till att det har satts dit på annat sätt.

Thoughts about gravity and the Rotating Mechanism
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=1097


Exploring Problems with Gravitation
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=1106


Some Thoughts on Universal Gravitation and the Rotating Mechanism
Why then can the moon rotate around the earth for such a long time and not fall down? Because a highly developed prehistoric civilization discovered the existence of the rotating mechanism. They made the moon move in accordance with this rotation mechanism exactly and had it rotate that way forever, therefore it does not need to consume any fuel. Scientists have found out that when the moon rotates around the earth or when other planets rotate around the sun, they do not really conform to their calculated orbits based on the Theory of Universal Gravitation, therefore the scientists have proposed some modified equations. For example, Einstein’s Theory of Relativity is used to explain the phenomenon that Mercury deviates from its theoretical orbit. However the rotating mechanism is not as simple as imagined by scientists.
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=1102


A Glimpse Into Other Dimensions
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=988

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Är inte det anmärkningsvärt eller är det en så kallad tillfällighet?

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Uppriktigt har jag aldrig läst något så flummigt på länge.

Har man noll kol på hur fysik och astronomi fungerar så bli inte en enda sak rätt. Vad är det för konstiga rotationer texten talar om och vad finns mätningar som bevisar dessa påstådda konstiga rotationer? Det finns INGA konstiga rotationer med några planeter eller månar i vårt solsystem annars hade man inte kunnat skicka iväg Voyager sonderna till Neptunus.

Månen avlägsnar sin med drygt 3 cm per år från jorden och kommer om några årmiljoner att lämna jorden. Detta beror på att jorden rotation saktar in p.g.a. av trögheten i världshaven. Så månen har varit mycket närmare jorden tidigare under historien.

Att galaxer håller ihop och roterar som det gör beror på att alla galaxer har ett svart hål i mitten av dem.

Att de skulle ha funnits några högre stående varelser på andra månar och planeter än vi människor fins inga som helst bevis på.

Jag förstår inte hur dessa varelser myter inte inser att de är basera på NASA:s (en vetenskaplig organisation) foton i huvudsak och feltolkningar av vad som är på dem. Utan NASA:s foton hade inte teorierna om varelser på andra planeter haft något att bygga sina myter på.

Heh, pratar man om NASAs små ritualer dyker alla disinfo upp omedelbart.

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Det har du väl, du läser väl vanlig media och Sciencereligionens skrifter ganska ofta, förmodar jag?

Annars är det du säger mest ett mått på det avstånd du har till insikt.


Några artiklar, kanske det kan intressera somliga:


Science Needs an Open Mind
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=996

Preliminary Discussion of New Science
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=1475

Three Fundamental Limitations and Their Common Issues
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=1882

Modern Science Is Based on Atheism
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=167

The Limits of Modern Science
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=981

The Way Out for Modern Science
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=1119

The New Age of Science: Coming from the Ancient Past and Racing toward the Future(1)
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=1111

The New Age of Science: Coming from the Ancient Past, and Racing toward the Future (2)
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=1112

Some Musings on the Complexities of Time
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=980

The Mistake of Scientific Information Classification
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=999

Álltid kul att reposta:
Darwin’s Evolutionism: Why Continued Belief in It Has Little to Do with the Scientific Facts
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=210

Science Restricted By Universal Law
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=1068


“The Universe is Unlimited in Both Space and Time”
Biography of Zhang Heng
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=1045


A Wake Up Call from the Microcosm
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=195


A General Discussion on Gods and Science
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=997

Är vi överens nu om att det finns inga vulkaner på månen - det borde inte vara några som helst svårigheter att inse... hehe.



OUR ENIGMATIC MOON

(December, 2005)

N. Huntley, Ph.D.

It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the Moon is not what it appears; that it is not just another satellite orbiting a planet, Earth, but an entity which has thrown the minds of some of the greatest thinkers and scientific brains into a quandary and bewilderment unprecedented in the history of astronomy. Why haven't you heard about this? Another government cover-up? How could Moon mysteries have anything to do with government secrecy, and moreover could it relate to the suppression of the space programme?

Let us outline some of the extraordinary anomalies and mysteries surrounding this puzzle. Clearly not all data will be equally reliable but the abundance of interrelated information nevertheless gives an overall picture which can be determined with some certainty. The first academic enigma must surely be that the Moon is apparently in its wrong orbit for its size. However, this would presumably be based on its assumed density. Technical reports claim a density of 3.3 for the Moon compared with 5.5 for Earth. Astronomy data indicates that the internal regions of the Moon are less dense than the outer, giving rise to the inevitable but outrageous speculation that it could be hollow. The eminent scientist Carl Sagan, a typical sceptic, made the statement, 'A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object'. But meaning here that if it is hollow, it is not a natural satellite---and therefore artificial.

Possibly the strongest evidence for it to be a 'hollow object' comes from the fact that when meteors strike the Moon, the latter rings like a bell. More specifically when the Apollo crew in November 20, 1969 released the lunar module, after returning to the orbiter, the module impact with the Moon caused their seismic equipment to register a continuous reverberation like a bell for more than an hour. The same effect occurred with Apollo 13's third stage which caused the Moon to ring for over three hours. So what's going on with the Moon?

Two Soviet scientists, Vasin and Shcherbokov, have spent much of their careers examining the facts compiled on lunar phenomena. Their conclusion is that the Moon is artificial, possibly a hollowed-out planet, and that it was steered from some distant region of the galaxy into a circular orbit around our planet (hence the extraordinary mystery of rock and Moon-dust age variations). They claim that intellectual life has existed in the Moon for eons.

In 1968 as Apollo 8 moved into orbit around the Moon, the astronauts spotted a colossal extraterrestrial object, which then had disappeared on the next orbit. Photographs were taken, of course, but not released to the public. On another occasion when the lunar excursion module was down to 4-5 miles from the Moon's surface astronauts witnessed a UFO suddenly rise from a crater and rapidly disappear. In 1969 Aldrin was checking the lunar surface from orbit, when two UFOs appeared, moved towards the Apollo rocket, hovered nearby, then to Aldrin's utter astonishment the UFOs joined to form one entity. Furthermore, astronauts of Apollo 11 saw a spacefleet of UFOs lined up in a crater. Almost every Moon mission involved encounters with UFOs or UFO sightings, not to mention the discovery of many bases on the Moon's surface. Renowned astronomer Patrick Moore discovered over one hundred dome-like buildings. In fact, about one thousand such bases, dome-like structures of diameter around 700 feet, have been witnessed. Astronomy records extending back 200 years indicate no such artifacts until about the 1950s (remember the book Alternative III?). Many of the UFO encounters by the astronauts were stated to be of a positive nature in which unintrusive assistance was given.

It has been found that asteroids and meteors not only create shallow craters on the Moon's surface but produce a convex floor to the crater instead of concave as expected, supporting the idea of a rigid shell. Countless other pieces of evidence from astronomers and NASA scientists began to reveal that some 2-3 miles down there appear to be dense layers of metal---which would explain why the craters were convex. But the most astonishing conclusion is that the only theory which can completely explain all the anomalies is that the Moon is hollow with a shell about 20 miles thick---mostly metal. Note that mascons (higher concentrations of mass) found in the marias cause fluctuations in gravity and have never been satisfactorily explained.

Moreover, these structural anomalies were supported by two publications, one Time Magazine, which unwittingly revealed the gravity value of the Moon relative to Earth by publishing the distance from Earth to Moon of the null point between them, indicating a gravitational force some 60 -70 % of Earth. Furthermore, some people noticed the feeble plumage of the rocket exhaust as the module rose from the Moon's surface---explained away by NASA as due to the vacuum. But what about some of the telltale and suspicious features observed during the first Armstrong and Aldrin Moon landing. The American flag was seen briefly to wave in ... a breeze? But we are told there is no air on the Moon. The flag was then starched. Also we saw dust kicked up by the astronauts clearly drifting in . . . what? Dust particles do not drift in vacuum---they cling together. And what about the feeble leaps of the astronauts off the Moon's surface---were their spacesuits and backpacks really so heavy? The Moon is supposed to be about one-sixth the gravity of Earth.

Thus we now know that air is present, and the feeble rocket exhaust could not be due to a vacuum. Moreover, the exhaust was apparently too weak to account for the necessary power to escape from such a gravitational pull in relationship to the size of the module, which was not large enough to contain the necessary fuel to escape the Moon's high gravity. Was antigravity propulsion secretly being used as a booster?

The covert government have long since sent 'astronauts' into outer space in antigravity spacecrafts. They apparently had the so-called cosmospheres about 40 years ago, some larger than the old and massive dirigibles. They seized the antigravity research data from the Nazis, and have since then reverse-engineered captured spacecrafts and negotiated deals with aliens involving antigravity technologies.

The more thorough have been the investigations of the Moon the more bizarre the results have been. Probably one of the most startling was that moonquakes occurred like clockwork. Moreover, the fluctuations on each occasion were the same. This is impossible for natural conditions which always obey fractal distributions. Furthermore, a study of rock samples reveal an age of 5.3 billion years, and that not only is the Moon older than the Earth, estimated to be about 4.6 billion years, but that it is older than the solar system (and by theoretical standards as old as the universe).

What about the surface of the Moon? Several television viewers wrote explaining that they spotted one of the astronauts pick up what appeared to be a glass bottle and remark, 'My God, I don't believe it, look at this . .. ' Then the television screen went blank. Other viewers observed the extreme difficulty astronauts had when drilling down a few inches into the Moon's marias and that when the drill bit was pulled out, metal shavings were visible. Rocks were found to contain brass, mica, titanium, and elements uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 not previously found in nature.

Astronomy literature reports the sighting of a 12-mile bridge-like structure over the Sea of Crisis in 1954 by John O'Neile, and in the 1950s astronomer Jessup realised that UFOs had bases on the Moon (and so does the government of course). Other strange lunar phenomena are: the observation by Dr. Frank Harris of a black body on the surface, 250 miles long and 50 miles wide; clouds and lightning; strange moving shadows and objects, and spire-like structures thousands of feet high; a huge boulder with tracks (behind it) from inside a crater to the rim (uphill); the shrinking, over a period of time, of the crater Luna from six miles in diameter to one and a half miles; 'hill' effects in craters appearing and disappearing in a few hours; over 800 substantial observations made by scientists of blinking and flashing lights; the results of NASA photographs of the lunar surface, indicating several large pyramid structures, strange rifts in the surface with entrances, massive girders, machinery and some 1000 kilometre blocks of metal, tears in the surface, revealing massive interior 'plumbing', huge crosses a mile long, and enormous excavating equipment. Professional astronomers have gradually been discouraged from investigating these observations, referred to as Transient Lunar Phenomena, and all such Fortean observations are now only of interest to the amateur.

Our satellite has long since been established as being extremely dry but this information has been contradicted by the appearance of clouds on the surface. On one occasion a cloud of water vapour appeared covering more than 100 square miles. And it has been reported that strange clouds appear at lightning speed. The capture theory that the Moon was pulled into its orbit by the Earth was once favoured but the circular orbit of the Moon invalidated it. As already mentioned the Moon is the wrong size and in the wrong orbit. It is too big and too far out. It does not rotate relative to Earth; the same side always faces the Earth. And what about the amazing 'coincidence' of the eclipse phenomenon. The position and size of the Moon is precisely that necessary to eclipse the Sun's disc.

Scientific experts, including NASA investigators believe that the Moon is hollow---it is the only explanation. The velocity of sound has been found to increase with depth and at 40 miles it is too fast for the speed of propagation through rock substance. 'Spaceship Moon' is the brainchild of the two Soviet researchers but many others agree with the theory, including NASA scientists at JPL and an Oxford University physicist. The capture theory is now back in favour but with a significant adjustment that the Moon was steered into orbit.

It might be worth a comment on the recent 'conspiracy theory' that astronauts never actually went to the Moon. DVDs and television programmes have proffered that, in particular, photographs allegedly taken on the Moon were faked. In fact one can see clearly in the photographs that the shadows of objects on the Moon were not parallel as they would be if the shadows were cast by the Sun, rather than by studio lighting. Further evidence has been given. But we may know from earlier suspicions that NASA has a propensity for faking scenes---for example, the view of the interior of the shuttle faking an outer-space mission when actually on the ground. Thus the conclusion, and personal opinion of the author, is that both scenarios are correct: astronauts did land on the Moon, and NASA has produced faked photographs.

Was the space programme cut because further encounters with UFOs might blow the government cover-up? Even more important than this, allowing the public to increase their confront and interest in the subject of extraterrestrials would eventually lead to a worldwide awakening of the human race's true heritage, the causes of our downfall, the falsification of our history, and ultimately the disclosure and eradication of the control mechanism.

We see that the Moon mysteries are intimately bound up with extraterrestrial sightings and involvement, in particular, the conclusion of the two Russian scientists that the Moon is artificial and hollow. Is this a favourable omen for the human race or a harbinger of something more ominous. Why was the Moon directed to retain continuously a dark side? A side of the Moon we never see. Also police records referring to increased crime during the full Moon are commonplace. A study of ET material of which literature today abounds, strongly indicates that the nature of the Moon has a sinister purpose and plays a role in manipulating man's evolution.

In fact, if we include relevant data from extraterrestrial material transmitted by Ashayana Deane (see other articles for more information on this source) taken from a now vast body of advanced scientific knowledge about the universe, life and man's downfall, it is made clear that the Moon is another of the many components of the Beast machine (see Cosmic Map article), and does indeed play a sinister role. The natural matter of the Moon came from a very large planet, Maldek (or Marduk), which orbited our Sun thousands of years ago between Mars and Jupiter. It was inhabited by a thriving civilisation which degenerated to such a degree that the planet was destroyed. The asteroid belt is a product of the many fragments; also Wormwood (Bible), referred to as Battlestar Wormwood by ETs (see Planet X article).

We can tentatively assume now that the Moon consists of a metallic framework which has been packed by pieces from Maldek, forming the spherical shape but is essentially hollow. Similarly for Wormwood. Thus the Moon contains energies and coding (frequency patterns) supporting the original ET agenda for assimilation of our planetary system and in fact the whole time matrix. Further programmes emanate from the moon, such as one to cause unnatural hormonal/menstrual cycles in women to produce more children---thus losing control over when to have children. The purpose being to keep a plentiful stock of DNA for their genetic experiments (the human DNA, that is, its original template is valuable to these spiritually-fallen ETs).

In fact, not only does the Moon affect the tides of Earth but the blood in living organisms. A separate source of information (channelling) refers to the Moon as being an electromagnetic computer which can be programmed intelligently, such as to influence the feminine cycle (as also mentioned above in the Deane material), and has been transmitting signals to maintain our DNA for aeons.

Men Novax du postade ju vettiga saker som hela artiklar och doktorsavhandlingar. Får man göra så? Är det inte lite ozkeptiskt att inte citera Fib Aktuellt och Aftonbladet?

Ganska uppenbart varför NASA gjorde en sådan poster:

http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/Boeing-M2.jpg


http://www.enterprisemission.com/skeptik.htm


Kul zzz?

*asg* Man behöver faktiskt inte vara en troende satanist för att förstå vad dom menar med sina bilder.

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Amon

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ooops... nu kommer några att bli ledsna.

Lucifer, Amon, Satan är samma person. Det är han man lurar i alla kristna fåntrattar att dyrka på juldagen. *duh*

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Det finns ingenting i detta som stämmer med vad vi idag vet.

Man kan inte dra de slutsatser som görs i denna enda källa som du hänvisar till då endast 4 % av universum är känt idag. Resten är okänt och innan det är utrett kan vi inte dra några slutsatser om dessa 96 %.

Är de i våra tankar som universum finns då de antyds i den källa du angett för jag har svårt att koppla dessa tankar till mätningar (just det mätningar inte spekulationer) från vårt universum som WMAP gjort:

http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/

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Har du så lite att komma med att det enda förmår är att klaga på min svenska kunskap???

Ja är det så illa att NASA´s trovärdighet hänger på att du inte kan läsa en text som är lite fel, då ser jag klart att jag har valt rätt sida, dvs, sanningen.

När man blir överbevisad som du nu blivit så hoppar du till nästa tuva utan att bry dig att du skrivit så galna saker som tex:

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Viket i detta fall strider klart mot vad du själv skrev tidigare.

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Vilket av det DU skrivit är rätt?

Fast i det fallet räcker din tystnad som svar.

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Så för att månens beteende skall vara onormalt så måste du nu bevisa att elektronerna roterar samtidigt som dom snurrar runt protonerna och neutronerna som befinner sig i kärnan.
Har du något bra bevis för detta.

Sen förstår jag inte att du skall ta ner detta på atom nivå, vår månen är inte den enda månen som är låst runt en planet i vårat solsystem, det torde betyda enligt din fantasi att alla dessa månar är konstgjorda. Så det onormala du letar desperat efter är normalt.

Ja tills du kan bevisa det du skriver.

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Det anmärkningsvärda i detta fall är att DU skrev följande.

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Den första meningen är rätt, resten av inlägget är felaktigt, vilket är mycket lätt att bevisa.

Så det anmärkningsvärda är att du inte har stake nog att bekräfta felen du skrev eller strida för din åsikt då flera påpekar felen för dig.

Men det är väl inte så att du har en förutfattad mening om detta redan????????

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Eftersom man bevisligen hittat basalt på månen så torde frågan vara avgjord. ha ha ha ha......

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Nej, absolut ingen tillfällighet utan ett resultat av tidvattenkrafterna. Missade du tillfälligtvis mitt inlägg #113 eller var du bara för dum för att förstå?

Några vulkanutbrottpå månen... det vore ett mirakel, halleluja, ärad vare VoF.

Lizzard, du har en ganska platt slutledningsförmåga nu - materialet som ligge på månens yta, ovanpå skalet, kommer någonstans ifrån, eller hur... inget av det kommer från aktivitet på månen.

Jag gav länkar till lite läsning... Science är inget man hänger i granen direkt...ditt enda svar, i princip, blev att basalt bevisligen hittats på månen, och att det var bevis på vulkanisk aktivitet där. Dubbelfel.

Game over.

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"Har du så lite att komma med att det enda förmår är att klaga på min svenska kunskap???"

Varför har du lagt in ett mellanslag här: svenska kunskap?

sluta sär skriv novax

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Ja eftersom man bevisligen hittat basalt på månen, världens forskare på vulkaner säger samstämmigt att det funnits vulkaner på månen. Detta skall vägas upp mot dina "fantasier".

Du har inte lyckats få ihop 2 meningar som stämmer med din EGNA teori:

Detta skrev du först, vilket inte är helt galet.

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Var på du senare skriver detta, som är totalt fel, till och med enligt dig själv.

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Nu har vi alltså detta att ta ställning till. Så länge man är öppen för en logisk lösning på detta så ser alla normalbegåvade att NOVAX skrivit galet, antingen är det första fel eller så är det andra fel. Läge här för NOVAX att erkänna felet och sedan gå vidare. Vilket ännu inte hänt. Enda slutsats att dra är att han vet att han har fel men har inte stake nog att erkänna detta. Alltså låst i sitt tänkande.

Sen väntar vi flera på dina "bevis" för att elektroner snurrar runt sin egen axel samtidigt som man snurrar runt neutronerna och protonerna i kärnan. Det var ju den jämförelsen DU drog då du skulle visa på det onormala med att vår måne har en fast sida mot oss på jorden.
Måste ju vara en barnlek för dig att visa på detta. Eller tog du ett exempel ut luften utan att ha någon koll på vad du skrev?

Kan ju vara att du fortfarande våndas över vilket som är rätt då du skrev.

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Eller..............

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Vi får väl aldrig något ur NOVAX om detta så jag tycker vi lämnar han i hans fantasier och går vidare.

Det enda som NOVAX kommer att kommentera är säkert något svenska fel i texten (som vanligt) men svar på direkt ställda frågor blir det inte.
Detta bevisar att han har fel och detta behöver man inte sitta i svenska akademin för att fatta.


PS Du NOVAX, du kanske skulle kolla igenom dina egna texter efter felaktigheter. DS

vart tog självaste månlandningen vägen..?

och hur kommer det sig att det blåser på månen när gänkarna är där med sina vackra fanor..?