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Det är kanske du som är snackepåse? Du menar att Hoagland har lyft planetens medvetande Det låter som New Age. Hans arbete har också betytt att andra har fått ut info. Har någon lyssnat på audiosarna, med honom och Lear?
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Det finns bara EN sanning
Så farlig är vägen, att man aldrig ser stupet, man faller sakta, stilla och lugnt – i djupaste trygghet – uppbyggd av strunt! Jag kom, jag såg, jag vände åter |
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Här kan ses fler videos nere på sidan om expanding earth etc. Så finns det om abiotic oil: Oil Is Mastery http://oilismastery.blogspot.com/ |
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Coolt expanding earth känns typ mer trolig än tetonic plates teorin. MEn jag har aldrig tänkt så.
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Jag skulle vilja veta vad inte denna expanderade jorden idé inte förklarar.
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Allt expanderar - universum med allt snabbar hastighet, har man ju kommit på nu. Något expandera innan det exploderar, som en ballong som blåses upp. Ja vad är vatten på "en annan nivå" - livets ursprung. |
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Vi bombas av protoner från solen hela tiden, vilka ingår en förening med syret som lämnar växtligheten genom gasutbytet, så föreningen mellan protoner/vätejoner och syret bildar vatten genom sk. ömsesidig attraktion.
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Ju flera kockar ju mindre till gästerna..
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En hopkoppling av argument som inte hör ihop med varandra så myten gäller fortfarande så ta och förklara detta så att vi inte måste hitta på en ny fysik och kemi för att få detta att går ihop. Jorden är av fast materia och expandera inte som universum som är ett rum och inte fast materia. Var vattnet kommer ifrån är fortfarande okänt då det inte är förklarat. |
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Så växterna som behöver vatten, soljus och koldioxid skulle varit med och skapat världshaven? Det du beskriver är så bakvänd och osannolik att jag inte fattar att varför du kom med en sådan förklarig för du borde själv ha kommit på dess orimlighet. |
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Kunde det inte ha varit vatten på planeten ändå? Jag menar livet började ju i haven o så. I och med att jorden expanderade så kom mer och mer land upp till ytan för att arean blev större lixom. Det i sin tur fick livet att komma upp på land?
Det var första gången idag jag hörde om det här. Helt klart intressant teori lixom. Är det något annat än vattnet som ställer till problem för dig Zink? Mycket saker vi inte förstår oss på i universum också. Jag menar det kan ju finnas någon svag kraft vi inte hittat än som gör att stora kroppar expanderar. Det kan väl också vara thermal expansion? Det som e lite konstigt med pangea e ju att jorden hade ju haft en mycket större vikt på ena sidan i det fallet, vilket är lite weird. Också det att kontienterna passar ganska bra ihop på ett mindre klot. Att jorden kläcktes som ett egg gillar ajg också =)
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Gick tillbaka o läste några sidor.
ang månen. zpz2 tror jag det var som sa att månen skapades när vårat solsystem skapades. Det jag har fått lära mig är något helt annat. Det här trodde jag var den erkända teorin om månen. För miljarder år sen eller nått sånt så kolliderade jorden med en annan himmla kropp. Alla stenar, stoft osv som bildades av den kollisionen hamnade i omlopsbana runt jorden. Det samlades sedan ihop och blev månen. Den historian är också väldigt häftigt likaså bigbang och mycket andra saker.
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Det vore hyggligt om du inte lägger ord i min mun bara sådär helt utan någon referens. Men den erkända teorin du refererar till, "Giant Impact Hypothesis" är att jorden kolliderade med en annan himlakropp i ett mycket ungt stadium av solsystemet, då jorden fortfarande höll på att formas. Solsystemet skapades för ca 4,6 miljarder år sedan, och det tog ca 50-100 miljoner år för jorden och de andra planeterna att formas, och kollisionen antas ha skett i slutet av denna period. Det är alltså inte fel att säga att detta hände när solsystem fortfarande höll på att bildas. http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/scitech/display.cfm?ST_ID=446 http://www.psi.edu/projects/moon/moon.html Förresten var är offtopic-polisen Lorax? Vad har teorier om en växande jord i tråden att göra? Eller är det ok för vissa att gå offtopic men inte för andra?
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"... fast materia"... - det låter som gammmmmaldags fysik över det...  materia som materia, det är som energi, det är samma sak. Man kan inte gå efter hur hjärnan får oss att se på saker och ting, eller den korresponderande fysikaliska fysiken.Sett med andra ögon så är vårt kosmos också en partikel. Nu lever vi på denna ingående mindre partikel och tittar "utåt", och ser det "enorma" kosmos... samma sak gäller för de som lever på en elektron i tex vår njure - de ser också det ofantliga, ser sitt kosmos, men de ser inte det större... Du har väl egentligen bara en teori om att allting inte expanderar. Reeepost: Breaking Through the Conventional Scientific Paradigm http://www.pureinsight.org/node/782 ... A Turning Point: Human Biology Demands Combining the Study of Matter and Spirit http://www.pureinsight.org/node/183 No Strict Definition of Science http://www.pureinsight.org/node/1775 Future Science: The Science of Consciousness http://www.pureinsight.org/node/784 |
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Om jorden expanderar ska även de som finns på jorden göra samma sak så hur mycket har du sebben expanderat? |
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Det är privat angelägenhet... så tror jag att detta är överkurs för dig nu... - det blir förannorlunda än den syn på saker och ting om du har. Så nöj dig bara med att det kanske är så att jorden expanderar. |
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Äntligen, favorittråden... månskalet...:
Himlakropp med mystiskt ursprung http://www.epochtimes.se/articles/2008/10/16/15951.html Himlakropp med mystiskt ursprung, del II http://www.epochtimes.se/articles/2008/11/22/16148.html /Novax/Sebben/Strunt occh övriga bröder och systrar, m fl |
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Det två forskarna Mijail Vasin och Alexander Sherbakov kan du visa att de har existerat för förra gången vi diskuterade detta gick inte att få fram några säkra data om dem. T.ex så är den mest kända Alexander Sherbakov en soldat: http://peoples-history.com/state/stat ... exander_sherbakov/1.shtml Ännu värre är det med Mijail Vasin som bara nämns tillsammans med Alexander Sherbakov i olika texter men några uppgifter om honom går inte att hitta. |
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Än värre var det med teorier att månen har haft sprutande vulkaner och var en klump... sådant kan bara komma från Scienzereligionen. De där personerna, det var inte igår direkt... deras info står i motsättning till Scienzereligionens trossatsbyggande - det heter understrycka, undertrycka och undertrycka. Så kan deras namn stavas på olika sätt, tex är Mijail bara en variant. Suppressed Inventions & Other Discoveries - True Stories Of Suppression, Scientific Cover-Ups har ett kapitel: Did NASA Sabotage Its Own Space Capsule? http://www.scribd.com/doc/3958757/Sup ... reakthroughs-2001-by-Eise Tar tex uppom Grissom och citronen, och mycket annat, tex...: Childress, who claims that the Moon is long inhabited and that Mercury, Venus, Mars and some of the moons of the outer planets show signs of current or past inhabitation; We Never Went to the Moon: America's Thirty Billion Dollar Swindle! by Bill Kaysing and Randy Reid; and lastly, the subject of this review, NASA Mooned America! by Rene, the last two books dealing with a mass of discrepancies in NASA's public output which the authors take to mean that the Moon shots were faked. All these books are well worth acquiring to broaden one's outlook on this subject. It is a big charge to claim that NASA never went to the Moon, that it was all a fake, yet this man Rene has come up with a large body of infor- mation that has to be seriously considered. He is obviously not writing this book for the fun of it, I doubt he's making any money at it, and is sure to be scorned and ridiculed simply for asking good questions which go against the common belief. There have been many books questioning the official story of a dead Moon, visited only by a few handpicked humans catapulted there in fancy tin cans. Not necessarily in order of appearance, some of these titles are: Somebody Else is on the Moon by George H. Leonard, who claims huge mining machines are moving about on the lunar surface; Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon and Secrets of our Spaceship Moon both by Don Wilson, who claims that the Moon is a giant artificial spaceship and is still inhab- ited; The Moon: Outpost of the Gods by Jean Sendy, who claims that extraterrestrials used the Moon as an Earth observation post and became the gods of old as they interfered with human development; Flying Saucers on the Moon by Riley Hansard Crabb, who claims that the Moon is a fly- ing saucer base, and goes on to describe moving lights and changing craters recorded by orthodox astronomers in the 1700s and 1800s; Moongate: Suppressed Findings of the U.S. Space Program by William L. Brian II, who claims that the Moon has a heavy gravity (75 percent of Earth's) and atmosphere, and that a top secret antigravity propulsion sys- tem was necessary to get on and off the Moon; We Discovered Alien Bases on the Moon by Fred Steckling, which shows quite a number of startling NASA photos indicating vegetation, clouds and domed structures on the Moon. Steckling claims we discovered aliens already there when we got there, and that NASA just couldn't bear to tell us poor, common mortals this astounding news; Extraterrestrial Archaeology by David Hatcher... Annat, det med hollow...: http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... A48AF3FFE944EA66217654912 |
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Så länge du inte bevisar för mig att de två forskarna Mijail Vasin och Alexander Sherbakov har funnits så faller hela ditt resonemang för du har då för mig presenterat rena myter då jag ska tro på personer som det är mindre troligt att de finns än jultomten. |
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Månen som en klump med sprutande vulkaner är inför alla vaknas ögon en redan debunkad myt. Tillbed du ditt mikroskop zink... Den tidigare postade "Our Enigmatic Moon". här i ny skepnad: Earth's Moon and Human Evolution Dr. N Huntley, Ph.D. It has been established beyond all reasonable doubt that the Moon is not what it appears; that it is not just another satellite orbiting a planet, Earth, but an entity which has thrown the minds of some of the greatest thinkers and scientific brains into a quandary and bewilderment unprecedented in the history of astronomy. Why haven't you heard about this? Another government cover-up? How could Moon mysteries have anything to do with government secrecy, and moreover could it relate to the suppression of the space programme? Let us outline some of the extraordinary anomalies and mysteries surrounding this puzzle. Clearly not all data will be equally reliable but the abundance of interrelated information nevertheless gives an overall picture which can be determined with some certainty. The first academic enigma must surely be that the Moon is apparently in its wrong orbit for its size. However, this would presumably be based on its assumed density. Technical reports claim a density of 3.3 for the Moon compared with 5.5 for Earth. Astronomy data indicates that the internal regions of the Moon are less dense than the outer, giving rise to the inevitable but outrageous speculation that it could be hollow. The eminent and late scientist Carl Sagan, a typical sceptic, had made the statement, "A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object." But meaning here that if it is hollow, it is not a natural satellite -- and therefore artificial. Possibly the strongest evidence for it to be a 'hollow object' comes from the fact that when meteors strike the Moon, the latter rings like a bell. More specifically when the Apollo crew in November 20, 1969 released the lunar module, after returning to the orbiter, the module impact with the Moon caused their seismic equipment to register a continuous reverberation like a bell for more than an hour. The same effect occurred with Apollo 13's third stage which caused the Moon to ring for over three hours. So what's going on with the Moon? Two Soviet scientists, Mikhail Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov, have spent much of their careers examining the facts compiled on lunar phenomena. Their conclusion is that the Moon is artificial, possibly a hollowed-out planet, and that it was steered from some distant region of the galaxy into a circular orbit around our planet (hence the extraordinary mystery of rock and Moon-dust age variations). They claim that intellectual life has existed in the Moon for eons. In 1968 as Apollo 8 moved into orbit around the Moon, the astronauts spotted a colossal extraterrestrial object, which then had disappeared on the next orbit. Photographs were taken, of course, but not released to the public. On another occasion when the lunar excursion module was down to 4-5 miles from the Moon's surface astronauts witnessed a UFO suddenly rise from a crater and rapidly disappear. In 1969, "Buzz" Aldrin was checking the lunar surface from orbit, when two UFOs appeared, moved towards the Apollo rocket, hovered nearby, then to Aldrin's utter astonishment the UFOs joined to form one entity. Furthermore, astronauts of Apollo 11 saw a spacefleet of UFOs lined up in a crater. Almost every Moon mission involved encounters with UFOs or UFO sightings, not to mention the discovery of many bases on the Moon's surface. Renowned astronomer Patrick Moore discovered over one hundred dome-like buildings. In fact, about one thousand such bases, dome-like structures of diameter around 700 feet, have been witnessed. Astronomy records extending back 200 years indicate no such artefacts until about the 1950s (remember the book entitledAlternative III?). Many of the UFO encounters by the astronauts were stated to be of a positive nature in which unintrusive assistance was given. It has been found that asteroids and meteors not only create shallow craters on the Moon's surface but produce a convex floor to the crater instead of concave as expected, supporting the idea of a rigid shell. Countless other pieces of evidence from astronomers and NASA scientists began to reveal that some 2-3 miles down there appear to be dense layers of metal -- which would explain why the craters were convex. But the most astonishing conclusion is that the only theory which can completely explain all the anomalies is that the Moon is hollow with a shell about 20 miles thick --mostly metal. Note that mascons (higher concentrations of mass) found in the marias cause fluctuations in gravity and have never been satisfactorily explained. Moreover, these structural anomalies were supported by two publications, one Time Magazine, which unwittingly revealed the gravity value of the Moon relative to Earth by publishing the distance from Earth to Moon of the null point between them, indicating a gravitational force some 60 -70 % of Earth. Furthermore, some people noticed the feeble plumage of the rocket exhaust as the module rose from the Moon's surface---explained away by NASA as due to the vacuum. But what about some of the telltale and suspicious features observed during the first Armstrong and Aldrin Moon landing. The American flag was seen briefly to wave in... a breeze? But we are told there is no air on the Moon. The flag was then starched. Also we saw dust kicked up by the astronauts clearly drifting in... what? Dust particles do not drift in vacuum -- they cling together. And what about the feeble leaps of the astronauts off the Moon's surface -- were their spacesuits and backpacks really so heavy? The Moon is supposed to be about one-sixth the gravity of Earth. Thus we now know that air is present, and the feeble rocket exhaust could not be due to a vacuum. Moreover, the exhaust was apparently too weak to account for the necessary power to escape from such a gravitational pull in relationship to the size of the module, which was not large enough to contain the necessary fuel to escape the Moon's high gravity. Was antigravity propulsion secretly being used as a booster? The covert government have long since sent 'astronauts' into outer space in antigravity spacecrafts. They apparently had the so-called cosmospheres about 40 years ago, some larger than the old and massive dirigibles. They seized the antigravity research data from the Nazis, and have since then reverse-engineered captured spacecrafts and negotiated deals with aliens involving antigravity technologies. The more thorough have been the investigations of the Moon the more bizarre the results have been. Probably one of the most startling was that moonquakes occurred like clockwork. Moreover, the fluctuations on each occasion were the same. This is impossible for natural conditions which always obey fractal distributions. Furthermore, a study of rock samples reveal an age of 5.3 billion years, and that not only is the Moon older than the Earth, estimated to be about 4.6 billion years, but that it is older than the solar system (and by theoretical standards as old as the universe). What about the surface of the Moon? Several television viewers wrote explaining that they spotted one of the astronauts pick up what appeared to be a glass bottle and remark, "My God, I don't believe it, look at this ..." Then the television screen went blank. Other viewers observed the extreme difficulty astronauts had when drilling down a few inches into the Moon's marias and that when the drill bit was pulled out, metal shavings were visible. Rocks were found to contain brass, mica, titanium, and elements uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 not previously found in nature. Astronomy literature reports the sighting of a 12-mile bridge-like structure over the Sea of Crisis in 1954 by John O'Neile, and in the 1950s astronomer Morris K. Jessup realised that UFOs had bases on the Moon (and so does the government of course). Other strange lunar phenomena are: the observation by Dr. Frank Harris of a black body on the surface, 250 miles long and 50 miles wide; clouds and lightning; strange moving shadows and objects, and spire-like structures thousands of feet high; a huge boulder with tracks (behind it) from inside a crater to the rim (uphill); the shrinking, over a period of time, of the crater Luna from six miles in diameter to one and a half miles; 'hill' effects in craters appearing and disappearing in a few hours; over 800 substantial observations made by scientists of blinking and flashing lights; the results of NASA photographs of the lunar surface, indicating several large pyramid structures, strange rifts in the surface with entrances, massive girders, machinery and some 1000 kilometre blocks of metal, alongside tears in the surface. This reveals massive subsurface interior 'plumbing', huge crosses a mile long, and enormous excavating equipment. Professional astronomers have gradually been discouraged from investigating these observations, referred to as Transient Lunar Phenomena, and all such Fortean observations are now only of interest to the amateur. Our satellite has long since been established as being extremely dry but this information has been contradicted by the appearance of clouds on the surface. On one occasion a cloud of water vapour appeared covering more than 100 square miles. And it has been reported that strange clouds appear at lightning speed. The capture theory that the Moon was pulled into its orbit by the Earth was once favoured but the circular orbit of the Moon invalidated it. As already mentioned the Moon is the wrong size and in the wrong orbit. It is too big and too far out. It does not rotate relative to Earth; the same side always faces the Earth. And what about the amazing 'coincidence' of the eclipse phenomenon. The position and size of the Moon is precisely that necessary to eclipse the Sun's disc. Scientific experts, including NASA investigators believe that the Moon is hollow -- it is the only explanation. The velocity of sound has been found to increase with depth and at 40 miles it is too fast for the speed of propagation through rock substance. 'Spaceship Moon' is the brainchild of the two Soviet researchers but many others agree with the theory, including NASA scientists at JPL and an Oxford University physicist. The capture theory is now back in favour but with a significant adjustment that the Moon was steered into orbit. It might be worth a comment on the recent 'conspiracy theory' that astronauts never actually went to the Moon. DVDs and television programmes have proffered that, in particular, photographs allegedly taken on the Moon were faked. In fact one can see clearly in the photographs that the shadows of objects on the Moon were not parallel as they would be if the shadows were cast by the Sun, rather than by studio lighting. Further evidence has been given. But we may know from earlier suspicions that NASA has a propensity for faking scenes -- for example, the view of the interior of the shuttle faking an outer-space mission when actually on the ground. Thus the conclusion, and personal opinion of the author, is that both scenarios are correct: astronauts did land on the Moon, and NASA has produced faked photographs. Was the space programme cut because further encounters with UFOs might blow the government cover-up? Even more important than this, allowing the public to increase their confront and interest in the subject of Extraterrestrials would eventually lead to a worldwide awakening of the human race's true heritage, the causes of our downfall, the falsification of our history, and ultimately the disclosure and eradication of the control mechanism. We see that the Moon mysteries are intimately bound up with extraterrestrial sightings and involvement, in particular, the conclusion of the two Russian scientists that the Moon is artificial and hollow. Is this a favourable omen for the human race or a harbinger of something more ominous. Why was the Moon directed to retain continuously a dark side? A side of the Moon we never see. Also police records referring to increased crime during the full Moon are commonplace. A study of ET material of which literature today abounds, strongly indicates that the nature of the Moon has a sinister purpose and plays a role in manipulating man's evolution. Editor's Note: Adapted and originally published in December 2005 as "Our Enigmatic Moon". ............ Det du kallar för "hela ditt resonemang" - är tvärtom fakta enligt studier och forskning, eller hur? "Data and computations – among them, Dr. McDonald's motion studies, – point to the conclusion that our moon is internally hollow to a great extent. Since most scientists claim there is no natural explanation for such peculiar phenomenon (because satellite worlds are not naturally hollow), the inevitable conclusion indicates that the moon is artificially hollow." (7) Once again, the "establishment" scientists are trying to "fit" the facts to their "sacred cow" theory. In no way will they "buck" the system and admit the obvious. The facts, once again, support the theory laid out by Gardner and Reed all heavenly bodies are hollow. Hela: Hollow Moon? http://www.onelight.com/thei/hollowmoon.html ............ Gör lite hemläxa: Brian - Moongate - Suppressed Findings of the U.S. Space Program This is William L. Brian II's explosive book Moongate - Suppressed Findings of the U.S. Space Program - The NASA-Military Cover-Up (1982) which is probably the best book on the topic of suppressed findings of Apollo project and the secret technology that was used to put a man on the Moon. The author compiled evidence from unclassified sources including official government publications, NASA photographs and movies, news articles, and books by authorities in various fields. Written for the layman and scientist alike, with mathematical calculations included in the appendices, it gives documented evidence for: NASA's true link to secret military space operations; secret weapons developed under the cover of the civilian space program; suppressed gravity research discoveries; the real U.S.-Russian space race; secret discoveries that put Apollo astronauts on the Moon; the Moon's true nature and history and the great energy cover-up. In contrast to other similar books Brian doesn't state that noone ever visited the Moon but that significantly different technology was used to achieve this momentous feat and how it has being held from us for decades. Furthermore Moongate exposes many cover-ups that occured during the missions that fail to match reality when put under closer investigation. You've seen Watergate now it's time to face Moongate. 230 pages, some pictures. A must read from everyone. http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/43399 ... of_the_U.S._Space_Program |
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Fortfarande har du inte men en enda källa visat att de två forskarna Mijail Vasin och Alexander Sherbakov har funnits. Var bodde dessa personer? Var bedrev de sin forskning? Lever de eller är de döda? Om de lever hur gamla är de? Om de är döda mellan vilka år levde de? Ta nu fram svaren till dessa frågor för är Mijail Vasin och Alexander Sherbakov två verkliga personer så ska det gå att få fram några uppgifter om dem. Jag hävdare att det är omöjligt och att Mijail Vasin och Alexander Sherbakov är två uppdiktade personer och därför inte ett dugg trovärdiga. |
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Fram med källor själv. Det är din "tro" som är debunkad, ju. När tillverkades ditt mediala teleskop, som ser igenom materia, och har konstaterat att månen var en klump? Vem har tillverkat det? Finns bolaget verkligen idag? Jag vill ha bevis för att de som grundade bolaget var verkliga personer och inte bara frontfantasier. Lycka till. |
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The Very Large Telescope
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Yepun-telescope "The VLT is intended to achieve an effective angular resolution of 0.001 arcsecond at a wavelength of 1 um. This is an angle of 0.000000005 radians, equivalent to resolving a target 2 meters across at the distance between the Earth and Moon. This should easily resolve the 5-metre wide Lunar Module bases left on the Moon by the Apollo moon missions, and a group of European scientists intends to do just that to challenge the accusation that the moon landings were faked by NASA." Jag har sökt på ESO's site men jag kan inte hitta några resultat. http://www.eso.org/public/
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I11time.dk
911 Truth i Danmark.
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Den dolda agendan
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Mats Sederholm & Linda Bjuvgård.
Dominic Johansson
Hjälp Dominic att komma hem.
Mjölkpallen
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911truth.no
911 Truth i Norge.
Nyhetsspeilet.no
Nyheter på norska.
En bild säger mer ...
Citat från eliten som bilder.
Folkvet
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Fred & Frihet
Geoengineering.se
Hur påverkar geoengineering dig?
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