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Pirater och piratflaggor
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kanske bra att veta innan man röstar på Piratpartiet?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolly_Roger

JOLLY ROGER TEMPLAR/JESUIT FLAG

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The Jolly Roger is the name given to any of various flags flown to identify a ship's
crew as pirates. The flag most usually identified as the Jolly Roger today is the skull
and crossbones, being a flag consisting of a skull above two tibiae set in an x-mark
arrangement on a black field.

In his self-published book Pirates & The Lost Templar Fleet, David Hatcher
Childress claims that the flag was named after the first man to fly it, King Roger II
of Sicily (c.1095-1154). Roger was a famed Templar and the Knights Of The Temple
were in conflict with the Pope over his conquests of Apulia and Salerno in 1127.
Childress claims that, many years later, after the Templars had been disbanded by
the church, at least one Templar fleet split into four independent flotillas dedicated to
pirating ships of any country sympathetic to Rome. If this is so, then the flag was
an inheritance, its crossed bones a reference to the original Templar logo of a red
cross with blunted ends. However, as shown below, many Jolly Rogers did not have
crossed bones.

Also, a Masonic legend speaks of three Templars searching the site of Jacques de
Molay's burning and finding only his skull and femurs. These they took with them
and allegedly were used as the impetus to create the first Jolly Roger flag of Piracy,
so that they would never forget.

It is documented that groups as the Sandinistas, the Fascist Black Shirts of
Mussolini, the Anarchist movement, the Getapo and SS of Hitler, etc, used this flag.


Sandinist revolutionary soldiers

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During the March of the Facsist in Rome


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Used by the nazi SS

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Used by the Skull and Bones secret society

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Posted on: 2010/4/28 12:44
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Re: Pirater och piratflaggor
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"Despite that, variations of the Knights Templar 'splayed cross' was displayed prominently on the sails of Christian sailing ship, including Christopher Columbus and Vasco da Gama. It was also stylized into what became the 'Jolly Roger' pirate flag. It was actually the Knights Templar 'battle flag' that they suddenly hoisted when approaching an enemy ship. In addition, it was a secret sign on the 'High Seas' to those that knew they were Knights Templar at war with their enemies. If they were not an enemy, they had no fear.

To this day you see the Christian Knights Templar "Jolly Roger" (with skull and crossed, splayed end bones, not swords) painted on American military aircraft, warships, and often flown as a flag on military vehicles. Yet few people know what it truly means. One reason is that the American Military fight the enemies of Christianity, and especially Muslims as during the Christian Crusades. Now ...you are one of the few that knows. Knights Templar were also buried with that symbol carved into stone on top of their grave."

Posted on: 2010/4/28 13:16
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Re: Pirater och piratflaggor
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EscapedLunatic skrev:
kanske bra att veta innan man röstar på Piratpartiet?



Varifrån namner Jolly Roger kom, har historikerna en rad teorier om; varav den mest troliga är att basfärgen i flaggan ursprungligen var röd (från franskans jolie rouge - vackert röd).

..och vad har detta egentligen med PP´s parti att göra? Bör jag ta av mig jeansen för att jag såg ett gäng skinnskallar ha jeans på sig?

Ska man undvika en färg bör det nog vara den röda va? Har svårt o tänka mig en "fana" som har starkare band med historien på både gott och ont.


Posted on: 2010/4/28 14:05
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Re: Pirater och piratflaggor
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..och vad har detta egentligen med PP´s parti att göra? Bör jag ta av mig jeansen för att jag såg ett gäng skinnskallar ha jeans på sig?

Det var mest ironiskt skrivet. Jag antar att det är bra med ett parti som går emot "elitens" kontrollerande och skulle nog stjälv lägga min röst i mer piratpartiets rikting. Men vem vet vilka ideer som kan "reinkarneras" genom olika rörelser?

Posted on: 2010/4/28 14:33
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