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http://www.lmd.no/index.php?article=1408
[12.03.07] Alexander Cockburn’s “US: The Conspiracy That Wasn’t,” which is an attack on the 9/11 truth movement, is faulty in virtually every respect. He calls me one of the movement’s “high priests,” as if it were a religious movement, rather than a fact-based movement that involves scientists, engineers, pilots, war veterans, politicians, philosophers, former air traffic controllers, former defense ministers, and former CIA analysts. 1 Dr. David Ray Griffin He calls us “conspiracists,” ignoring the fact that in defending the government’s account, he is defending the original 9/11 conspiracy theory. In claiming that the Bush administration and the military are too incompetent to have organized the 9/11 attacks, he gives an argument that could equally well be used to prove that they could not have organized the military assaults on Afghanistan and Iraq. In claiming that bin Laden took credit for the attacks, Cockburn appears not to be aware that in the video on which this claim is primarily based, the man playing Osama bin Laden is heavier and darker than the bin Laden of all undoubtedly authentic videos, or that the FBI’s “Most Wanted Terrorist” page on bin Laden does not mention 9/11---because, an FBI spokesman explained, “the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.” Although Cockburn says that members of our movement are “immune to reality check,” he endorses the official theory of the collapses of the Twin Towers, which can be held only by ignoring an enormous number of facts. He says the towers were poorly built, whereas in reality they were built to withstand virtually any eventuality, including being hit by large airliners. He says the towers collapsed because of being struck by planes loaded with jet fuel, but WTC 7, which was not struck by a plane, also collapsed. In rejecting the claim that explosives had been planted, Cockburn ignores the fact that 118 members of the Fire Department gave testimony indicating that explosives had gone off. (I quoted 31 of these, along with journalists and WTC employees, in an essay entitled “Explosive Testimony.) The official theory about these buildings, which Cockburn defends, is contradicted by all prior history, in which total collapses of steel-frame high-rise buildings have never been caused by externally caused damage plus fire, even when the fires were much bigger and lasted much longer. The idea that explosives were used is further strengthened by the many features of the collapses: 1. They were symmetrical, straight-down collapses, meaning that all 287 columns in each of the towers (47 massive core columns and 240 perimeter columns) and all 81 columns in WTC 7 had to collapse simultaneously. To believe that this could have been caused by fire, which was not spread evenly throughout any of the buildings, is to believe in a miracle. 2. The collapses were total, with each skyscraper collapsing into a pile of rubble only a few stories high. Accordingly, each of the steel columns had to be sliced into many pieces---which is what explosives do in controlled implosions. 3. Virtually all of the concrete and furniture was pulverized into extremely fine dust particles (which created huge dust clouds). Fire plus gravity would not have provided nearly enough energy to do this. 4. At the beginning of the collapse of each of the Twin Towers, which started near the top, steel beams were ejected out horizontally as far as 600 feet. Gravitational energy, which is vertical, cannot begin to explain these massive horizontal ejections. (In his companion essay, “Conspiracy Disproved,” Cockburn suggests, incredibly, that nothing was ejected other than “puffs of smoke.” He also seems unaware that signs of explosions occurred near the impact point, not simply 20 to 60 floors lower, and falsely assumes that the timing of the explosions would have to be determined beforehand.) 5. All three buildings came down at virtually free-fall speed, meaning that the lower floors, with all their steel and concrete, were providing no resistance to the upper floors. Cockburn says: “There is not the slightest need to postulate pre-placed explosive charges to explain why the towers collapsed at near free-fall speeds.” But that claim violates basic laws of physics. 5. For many weeks afterwards, pools of molten metal were found under each building. Steel does not begin to melt until it reaches about 1,540°C, whereas the fires could not have been over 1000°C. 6 In “Conspiracy Disproved,” Cockburn endorses the report put out by the National Institute for Standards and Technology (NIST). But this report by this Bush administration agency is completely unscientific, announcing conclusions that radically contradict the data provided in its supporting volumes. Although I have focused here on the World Trade Center, there is strong evidence against every other dimension of the official conspiracy theory, which I have presented in The New Pearl Harbor and The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions. In the latter book, I showed that the Commission’s report contains at least 115 lies of omission and distortion. Cockburn appears to be unwilling to look at such evidence because he is convinced that the effort to show 9/11 to have been an inside job is a distraction from really important matters. However, if 9/11 was indeed an inside job, then what could be more important than exposing this fact? The idea that America was attacked by foreign terrorists on 9/11 has been used to justify the war in Iraq and virtually every other way in which the United States has made the world an uglier, more dangerous place since 9/11. It has also been used to distract attention from the problem of global warming, which is the really serious threat to human civilization. The official conspiracy theory about 9/11, in other words, is the true distraction.
Posted on: 2007/3/14 21:41
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Men har du inte läst zunk när han säger att det är styrda frågor som dom inte behöver svara på. Foliehatt, hahah.
Geniet zunk, men de andra "skeptikerna" lyser med sin frånvaro. Quote:
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Ska försöka läsa igenom lite senare men en snabb genomblick hittade en liten vinkling:
Quote: 5. For many weeks afterwards, pools of molten metal were found under each building. Steel does not begin to melt until it reaches about 1,540°C, whereas the fires could not have been over 1000°C. 6 Vem har sagt att det skulle vara just stål? |
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Har du helt glömt bort att det blev en arbetsplats för röjningsarbetare som är vana att jobba med stålarbeten? eller vad tror du att dom "gubbsen" hade för profession?
Posted on: 2007/3/20 15:51
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Erfarna demoleringsexperter jobbade också vid röjningsarbetet. Betyder det att husen var demolerade? För övrigt så känns det som att dom är dom som allra först skulle se tecken på en demolition. |
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Posted on: 2007/3/20 16:12
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Ju flera kockar ju mindre till gästerna..
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Posted on: 2007/3/20 17:04
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Ska försöka leta reda på var jag läste det. Ignorera det sålänge. Quote:
Glömde bort att fråga vart du ville komma med att stålarbetare jobbade där. Husen var gjorda av stål, att stålarbetare jobbar där bevisar inte att det var smält stål? |
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Posted on: 2007/3/20 18:15
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Nu läste jag igen, och nej - det gjorde du inte. Röjningsarbetare vana vid stålarbeten. Så var det. Vart leder det oss? Metall var det säkerligen, men inte nödvändigtvis stål eftersom elden inte kunde uppnå sådana temperaturer. Aluminium kan det t.ex. ha varit. En av 747-modellerna har 66 ton sådan. Smälter vid 660 vilket är ungefär vad branden uppnådde (enskilda högre temperaturer uppmättes visserligen men det lär inte ha varit någon stor del av elden). |
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så aluminium kan hållas glödande och flytande i veckor utan värmetillförsel då? vilken färg har aluminium i flytande form? tänk efter...du har inte "heta arbeten" va?
Posted on: 2007/3/20 19:12
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Det var inte ett definitivt svar, det var bara ett bättre alternativ än stål. Stål är för övrigt vitt/gult när det är smält och bilderna som man ibland som påstås vara smält stål i WTC-kollapsen har en orange/röd-färgad sak, så det är också uteslutet. |
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Vadå uteslutet på grund av orange/röd-färg?  Vad har stål för färg innan det intar fast form igen?. Alltså mitt imellan flytanda(smält) och fast form? om inte just orange/röd-färg!!
Posted on: 2007/3/20 20:53
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Posted on: 2007/3/20 21:10
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Statoils Engångsgrill, så klart.
Posted on: 2007/3/21 17:10
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Vill du komma till att smält stål hålls flytande i veckor? |
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komma till? jag vill komma till, vad menar du?
Posted on: 2007/3/21 19:39
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Posted on: 2007/3/21 19:40
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Posted on: 2007/3/21 19:45
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Statoils Engångsgrill, så klart. Jag tror det låg ett hemligt kärnkraftverk under WTC. Då var det väl en " "Härdsmälta " !! |
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Posted on: 2007/3/21 20:05
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Innan jag funderar alls så får du gärna ge mig källor på var man hittade den samt när och av vem det upphittades. Sen ska jag fundera lite. |
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Posted on: 2007/3/21 20:25
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Säg vart du vill komma istället för att antyda saker hela tiden, tack. |
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