Filipino-Monkey skrev:
Varför publicerade han inte bara hur han hade gjort det?

molgan skrev:
Stan found a way of using only half an amp of electricity to fracture water molecules separating the oxygen and hydrogen on demand. As the hydrogen was produced it was burned creating combustion more powerful than gasoline, and water was the only significant exhaust emission. Stan Meyer's water engine technology could easily have been developed to power planes, ships, trains, and spacecraft, completely eliminating our need for oil.

troligt man kommer på nåt sånt och har all info om det hemma i vardagsrummet, inte ens jag som inte kommer på nåt har all min info på ett ställe.

Skulle dom ta patent och sälja det där skulle dom aldrig behöva ens borra upp sin olja...utan bli rikast i världen på nolltid.

Hursomhelt, enligt allt jag nånsin läst om hydrogen så går det åt mer energi att göra hydrogen än du får ut av hydrogenen du skapar.

Filipino-Monkey skrev:
Trodde att det funkade för att driva el bilar inte förbrännings bilar.

Filipino-Monkey skrev:
Varför publicerade han inte bara hur han hade gjort det?

Sunday Times Innovation 1 Dec. 96 (http://www.sunday-times.co.uk)

End of road for car that ran on Water

American court finds inventor of water-powered car is guilty of fraud.
Report by Tony Edwards

It appears to be the end of the road for maverick inventor Stanley Meyer and
his water-powered car after a recent American court verdict.

The car was a wonderful, if unlikely, dream while it lasted, offering a
pollution-free future powered by a limitless source of energy. But the
dream was shattered when Meyer was found guilty of fraud after his Water
Fuel Cell was tested before an Ohio judge.
It is rare for an inventor to be prosecuted for an invention that does not
work, but Meyer's problem was that he had been selling "dealerships",
offering investors the "right to do business'' in Water Fuel Cell tech-
nology in anticipation of the day when water would power anything From
domestic boilers to cars and aircraft.
But recently two suspicious investors could not wait for that day to dawn
and sued Meyer to get their money back.
Meyer defended, maintaining his long-held claim that the Water Fuel Cell was a truly
revolutionary invention that could split water into its two constituent
gases of hydrogen and oxygen far more efficiently than conventional
electrolysis. The secret, he said, was to "resonate" electricity at a very
high voltage through water and so "fracture" the hydrogen/oxygen molecular
bond. This, he claimed, opened the way for a car which would "run on wat-
er", powered simply by a car battery. The car would even run for ever since
the energy needed to continue the "fracturing" was so low that the bat-
tery could be recharged: from the engine's dynamo.

Meyer claimed to have adapted a 1.6-litre Volkswagen Dune Buggy to run on
water. He replaced the sparkplugs with "injectors" which, he said, sprayed
water as a fine mist in a "resonant cavity" where it was bombarded by a
succession of high-voltage electrical pulses. He claimed this instantly
converted the water into a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen that could be
combusted in the cylinders, driving the pistons just as in an ordinary
petrol engine.
One of the experts due toexamine the car was Michael Laughton, professor
of electrical engineering at Queen Mary and Westfield University, London,
but he was not allowed to see it. "Although Meyer had known about our
visit weeks in advance, when we arrived he made some lame excuse about why
the car wasn't working, so it was impossible to evaluate it," said
Laughton.
However, the one thing Meyer had built that appeared to work was his Water
Fuel Cell, and it was this device that the Ohio judge called as evidence in
the recent lawsuit.
The cell had been the centrepiece of Meyer's sales pitches. It was a
transparent cylinder of water inside which was a core of stainless steel
electrodes. When plugged into an electrical supply,the cell bubbled away
merrily, producing apparently copious amounts of gas that Meyer ignited
through a welding torch.To the layman it was an impressive performance and
hundreds of small investors signed up, but it did not impress three expert
witnesses in court.
They decided that there was nothing revolutionary about the cell at all and
that it was simply using conventional electrolysis.
Meyer was found guilty of "gross and egregious fraud" and ordered to repay
the investors their $25,000 (£15,000).

shilton skrev:
Jaha ja! Så du tror på vad som står i tidningen DU???

zpz2 skrev:
Quote:

shilton skrev:
Jaha ja! Så du tror på vad som står i tidningen DU???

Innan du börjar snacka skit, läs patenten och försök bygga skiten själv så får du se hur bra det funkar!

Brooks invested more than $300,000 in Meyer's technology. He hoped to find applications for his aviation business.

Today, he and his wife, Lorraine, laugh about the ordeal, made easier because their money was returned in a 1994 settlement in Franklin County Common Pleas Court.

monitor skrev:
Stan Meyer blev mördad för att ha upptäckt detta, Nickolas Tesla dog också under oklara omständigheter även DR Wilhelm Reich som fann botemedel mot det mesta genom "ORGONE" dog i fängelse under oklara omständigheter.

Vem eller vad vill inte se att mänskligheten får del av något som kan göra bot mot "energi kris" sjukdomar och annat som drabbar oss. (store bror)

Något säger i alla fall mig att någon (STORE BROR) förhindrar ett för oss revolutionerande sätt att utvinna energi som skulle innebära en total omvärdering av världen som vi ser idag. Det skulle också skapa nya arbetstillfällen, rena miljön och så vidare om man gjorde slag i saken och släppte loss informationen om energin, den är inte bara olja och kärnkraft.

Som det ser ut nu och tydligen har sett ut, är att hittar du något som kan förbättra livet på planeten så dör du om du inte slutar med forskningen. Oftast hotas hela familjen i sammanhanget.

Nu kan man läsa att Toyota har en hydro-bil eller hur.
Hur länge finns den på tapeten, och kommer den att utvecklas vidare?
Patentet köps förmodligen upp och läggs i valvet där ingen ser det.

Many companies are currently researching the feasibility of building hydrogen cars. Funding has come from both private and government sources. In addition to the BMW and Mazda examples cited above, many automobile manufacturers have begun developing cars. These include:

* BMW — The BMW Hydrogen 7 is powered by a dual-fuel Internal Combustion Engine and with an Auxiliary power based on UTC Power fuel cell technology. The BMW H2R speed record car is also powered by an ICE. Both models use Liquid Hydrogen as fuel.
* Daimler AG — F-Cell, a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle based on the Mercedes-Benz A-Class.
* Fiat - Panda hydrogen, a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle utilizing Nuvera's Andromeda fuel cell stack
* Ford Motor Company – Focus FCV, a hydrogen fuel cell modification of the Ford Focus, and E-350 buses, which began leasing in late 2006.
* General Motors — multiple models of fuel cell vehicles[41] including the Hy-wire and the HydroGen3
* Honda – currently experimenting with a variety of alternative fuels and fuel cells with experimental vehicles based on the Honda EV Plus, most notably the Honda FCX, powered by a front-mounted 80 kW AC electric motor, with 20 kW pancake motors providing supplemental power to the rear wheels. Electrical energy is provided by a 100 kW hydrogen fuel cell, with regenerative braking energy stored in ultracapacitors. The first production version of the FCX, dubbed the FCX Clarity, was announced at the 2007 Greater Los Angeles Auto Show. The vehicle is expected to be available in mid-2008 in limited numbers for lease only in the Los Angeles area[42]. As of June 2008, The cost of the vehicle is "several hundred thousand dollars each to produce, though [Mr. Fukui] said that should drop below $100,000 in less than a decade as production volumes increase."[43] In November 2007, Honda announced its new Home Energy Station IV that uses steam reforming of natural gas to derive hydrogen from both the steam and natural gas in equal parts, as well as heat and electricity for the home.
* Hyundai — Tucson FCEV, based on UTC Power fuel cell technology
* Mazda - RX-8, with a dual-fuel (hydrogen or gasoline) rotary-engine[44] Mazda leased two dual-fuel RX-8s to commercial customers in Japan in early 2006, becoming the first manufacturer to put a hydrogen vehicle in customer hands. Also the Mazda Premacy Hydrogen RE Hybrid, with a dual-fuel (hydrogen or gasoline) rotary-engine[45]
* Nissan — X-TRAIL FCV, based on UTC Power fuel cell technology.
* Morgan Motor Company – LIFEcar, a performance-oriented hydrogen fuel cell vehicle with the aid of several other British companies
* Renault – Scenic ZEV H2 is a hydro-electric MPV co-developed by Nissan. It’s hydrogen fuel cell is supplemented by a 90kW electric motor - which translates to about 120bhp. It has a top speed of 100mph and a 0-60mph time of 14.7 seconds. The vehicle will begin production in Israel in 2011.[46]
* Toyota – The Toyota Highlander FCHV and FCHV-BUS[47] are currently under development and in active testing. In November 2007, ten new hydrogen powered Prius cars were delivered to three companies in Iceland by VISTORKA, a shareholder in Icelandic New Energy.[48]
* Volkswagen also has hydrogen fuel cell cars in development.

Supporting these manufacturers are fuel cell and hydrogen engine research and manufacturing companies. The largest of these is UTC Power, a division of United Technologies Corporation, currently in joint development with Hyundai, Nissan, and BMW, among other auto companies. Another major supplier, Ballard Power Systems, pulled out of the Hydrogen vehicle business in late 2007.[12] The Hydrogen Engine Center is a supplier of hydrogen-fueled engines.

Most, but not all, of these vehicles are currently only available in demonstration models and cost a large amount of money to make and run. They are not yet ready for general public use and are unlikely to be as feasible as plug in biodiesel hybrids.

monitor skrev:

monitor skrev:

molgan skrev:
...rent vatten leder inte el nå bra? Och destillerat vatten leder inte ström alls.

Är det salt salter i vattnet så leder det ström bättre, eller rättare sagt jonerna i vattnet leder ström.
Det vill säga att rent vatten leder inte ström, som alla tycks tro.