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Re: Hollow Earth Theory
#25
zpz2, släpp sargen...

Preliminary Discussion of New Science
[...]
According to the principles of Falun Dafa, I do not think the so-called wave-particle duality truly exists. In my opinion, particles are the only things that exist. Light is a type of particle. I think macro-mechanical waves of particles in our dimension are results from the motion of bodies that have simultaneous spatial existence but in different dimensions. Electromagnetic waves in our space correspond to the motion of bodies that exist in other lateral microscopic dimensions. Energy in our space results from the disintegration of bodies in higher dimensions. In other words, if we could understand the micro view of different levels, we would be able to draw a mass-energy equation for different levels. This equation is premised on the existence of underlying dimensions.

Other scientists, including researchers from the Ghassemi Institute for Technology Transfer, put forward a matter theory of time-space. They believe that in space there exists a water-like matter that is able to induce a vortex, which then gives rise to the condensation and formation of matter and its vertical rotational property, resulting in the motion of bodies. This matter permeates all other matter and transmits electromagnetic waves and vibration. Atoms, sub-atoms, light and radiation stem from electromagnetic waves. Without its own waveform, matter ceases to exist. Like ripples on water, when vibration stops, waveform disappears, and all that remains is water. If the vibration of a matter ceases, it will go back tostillness. Ancient people in the East referred to this mysterious matter as "qi", and ancient people in the West called it "ether." This concept was abandoned around the dawn of the 20th century. Now it appears that modern science has returned to the doorstep of our ancient forefathers after a roundabout. Although scientific terms might be used to describe the phenomenon, the inner meaning is still the same. For instance, scientists can not explain why the universe is 80% dark matter. In addition, they can not discover dark matter. The only logical explanation is that there are different states of existence, and there exist particles that have fluid-like properties. When they are not in motion, there appears to be a vacuum space. When they are in motion, we see the appearance of particles in the universe. The American Physics Society at Long Beach, California is a proponent of this theory. They hold that gluons do not exist. Nucleic force as observed is actually the result of the pressure from time and space and there are no gluons. The only reason that people believe in the existence of dark matter is that we assume that time-space (empty space) is devoid of mass and pressure. But according to these scientists, if we take the pressure from time and space into consideration, we will see that there is no dark matter in the universe, and all galaxies are floating in the immense and boundless fluid [2].

If this theory is correct, it will bring a revolutionary change to the current science. The scientists who proposed this hypothesis suggested a new formula on mass: m=gL3. Here L3 stands for the space a body occupies, while g is a conversion constant between matter and space (which needs to be derived based on experiments or theoretical calculation). Nonetheless, this formula coincides with the ancient theory of qi in both the East and the West, that is, "gathering together to form a shape, dispersing to exist as a matter."
[...]
Hela:
http://www.pureinsight.org/node/1475

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http://www.pureinsight.org/node/640

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[...]
Chapter two of Zhuan Falun [3] describes the correlations of perceptions, from the large down to the small worlds. Mr. Li Hongzhi relates historic knowledge as well its comprehensive explanation, based on the apprenticeship of Falun Dafa, as well as frequently also comments on historically well known facts. The Tao School, for example, regards the human body as a small cosmos. As clarified in [3] this does not mean that the organic structure resembles the cosmos.

The perceptions of science on the other hand have always renewed the definitions of elementary particles. At the moment science has arrived at quarks, leptons and bosons and yet one knows also that these don¡¯t have to be the smallest particles. Relating to this, Sakyamuni said in his last years: ¡°It is immense without exterior, and it is tiny without interior.¡± As Sakyamuni was a Budddha at the Tathagata level he was neither able to see the limit of the cosmos nor the littlest particles of matter.

Sakyamuni spoke in this manner from the aspect of three thousand worlds, whereby in a grain sand again there would be three thousand worlds. At his level of a Tathagata he had seen this.

In the following is described how Mr. Li Hongzhi in [3] explains these perceptions yet more exactly. According to Mr. Li¡¯s teachings, the cosmos also has a shell. The inside of the human body, from the molecules to the microscopic particles is actually just as large as this cosmos. In an extremely microscopic state, the life components for each person destined for him were already formed.

The present state of scientific and technical development is not yet so far advanced as to explain these things. The following section briefly describes how scientific understandings of the micro and macro cosmos have evolved.
[...]
Hela:
http://fsccentre.org/Falun%20Dafa%20and%20Modern%20Science.htm

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The Way Out for Modern Science

The Dilemma and the Way Out

In modern science, the fundamental obstacles are:

1. Separation and Combination:

- Mind and Matter Are Separated
- the Concept of Space Is ¡°Dimension¡±


...
In 1996, John Horgan, a senior professional writer of Scientific American, an authoritative magazine in technology, wrote a book entitled, The End of Science, after he had visited dozens of worldwide, outstanding scholars in different fields. This book evoked strong repercussions among scientists around the world. In this book, which many famous scientists wanted sent to the trash heap, the author concluded that science, specifically pure science, had come to an end. He noted two aspects:

A. Supposedly great scientists indulgently exaggerating the glory of historical scientific development, and those scientists not having very great reputations.

B. A large volume of the facts proving stagnation of current scientific development.


Hela:
http://fsccentre.org/The%20Way%20Out%20for%20Modern%20Science.htm

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Re: Hollow Earth Theory
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Novax, ditt klipp och klistrande av länkar och texter tillför knappast något vettigt till diskussionen.
Jag har förstått att du föraktar vetenskap, men gravitationsteorin blir inte mindre användbar för det.

Posted on: 2009/2/26 20:20
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Re: Hollow Earth Theory
#27
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zpz2 skrev:
Novax, ditt klipp och klistrande av länkar och texter tillför knappast något vettigt till diskussionen.
Jag har förstått att du föraktar vetenskap, men gravitationsteorin blir inte mindre användbar för det.


hehe... busted...

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DID EINSTEIN PREDICT THE DEATH OF PHYSICS?

The following two quotations are extremely important:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/genius/
"Genius Among Geniuses" by Thomas Levenson
"And then, in June, Einstein completes special relativity, which adds a twist to the story: Einstein's March paper treated light as particles, but special relativity sees light as a continuous field of waves. Alice's Red Queen can accept many impossible things before breakfast, but it takes a supremely confident mind to do so. Einstein, age 26, sees light as wave and particle, picking the attribute he needs to confront each problem in turn. Now that's tough."

Einstein at the end of his career:
"I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be based on the field concept,i.e., on continuous structures. In that case, nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics."

So Einstein knew what had happened. Perhaps at that time (1954) the death of physics was still reversible. Now there is no hope. This civilization seems to be suicidal.

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BIG BROTHER'S WORLD AND EINSTEIN'S WORLD

In Big Brother's world truth is replaced by falsity but the identification and rejection of false statements remain essential: if 2+2=5 is declared true, 2+2=4 automatically becomes false and is rejected.

In Einstein's world true and false statements coexist in "theories". So in Einstein's theory the speed of light is both invariable and variable. "Invariable" is false, "variable" is true but this distinction does not matter. What matters is the fact that Einstein's theory "works" in the sense that millions of people make their living by teaching it, developing it, confirming it experimentally etc. It is unthinkable to disturb the integrity of the theory and threaten all those people by identifying, let alone rejecting, false statements.

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EINSTEINIANS WILL TRY TO SAVE PHYSICS

So far Einsteinians have extracted billions from two incompatible principles: the principle of INVARIABILITY of the speed of light (the speed of photons is c=300000km/s, independent of gravitational fields or of the speed of the light source) and the principle of VARIABILITY of the speed of light (the speed of photons varies in a gravitational field or with the speed of the light source and can become greater than c=300000km/s). The first principle is false but produces breathtaking miracles (time dilation, length contraction, the fabric of spacetime etc.), the second is true and can give correct predictions (e.g. the gravitational redshift factor 1+V/c^2, where V is the gravitational potential). The combination of the two principles destroys human rationality and so makes rational criticism impossible - the supremacy of the theory of relativity looks eternal.

The problem is that students (especially intelligent ones, e.g. in UK) do not wish to study absurdities anymore and physics is simply dying (departments are being closed etc.). So Einsteinians will try to save physics by abandoning the source of money Einstein created for them. Too late perhaps - some say death of science is irreversible:

http://www.politics.co.uk/press-relea ... in-uk-science-$458709.htm

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EINSTEIN AND THE END OF SCIENCE

Is there any relation between the following texts?

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf/ ... 33a-b7e3-4a09145525ca.pdf
Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures. Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary physics."

http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
Bryan Wallace: "Einstein's special relativity theory with his second postulate that the speed of light in space is constant is the linchpin that holds the whole range of modern physics theories together. Shatter this postulate, and modern physics becomes an elaborate farce!"

http://education.guardian.co.uk/universitiesincrisis/story/0,,2084784,00.html
Harry Kroto "The wrecking of British science": "Thirty per cent of physics departments have either been closed or merged in the past five years.....Do I think there is any hope for UK? I am really not sure."

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The following three quotations can help anyone trying to test Einstein's relativity. The first and the second belong to important educators; the third to a heretic who died a few years ago.

http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae13.cfm
" So, it is absolutely true that the speed of light is _not_ constant in a gravitational field [which, by the equivalence principle, applies as well to accelerating (non-inertial) frames of reference]. If this were not so, there would be no bending of light by the gravitational field of stars. One can do a simple Huyghens reconstruction of a wave front, taking into account the different speed of advance of the wavefront at different distances from the star (variation of speed of light), to derive the deflection of the light by the star.
Indeed, this is exactly how Einstein did the calculation in:
"On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der Physik, 35, 1911.
which predated the full formal development of general relativity by about four years. This paper is widely available in English. You can find a copy beginning on page 99 of the Dover book "The Principle of Relativity." You will find in section 3 of that paper, Einstein's derivation of the (variable) speed of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is,
c" = c0 ( 1 + V / c2 )
where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the speed of light c0 is measured. "

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics ... Light/speed_of_light.html
" Einstein went on to discover a more general theory of relativity which explained gravity in terms of curved spacetime, and he talked about the speed of light changing in this new theory. In the 1920 book "Relativity: the special and general theory" he wrote: . . . according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity [. . .] cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position. Since Einstein talks of velocity (a vector quantity: speed with direction) rather than speed alone, it is not clear that he meant the speed will change, but the reference to special relativity suggests that he did mean so. "

http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
" Shatter this postulate [of constancy of the speed of light], and modern physics becomes an elaborate farce! "

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Re: Hollow Earth Theory
#28
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HuMaHuMHuM skrev:
I bibeln talas det om en vattenbarriär istället för molnen.

Det finns många bibelforskare som tror att det är denna barriär som typ brast och orsakade syndafloden.
Innan det hände så regnade det inte - utan marken vattnades av morgondaggen.

... lite långsökt här nu då.. men varför kan det inte vara så enkelt att syndafloden repressenterar våra riktida förfäders (orginalsläktingar - Noak alltså) färd från jordens centrum ut till där vi nu befinner oss.


Paradiset är i sådana fall underjorden, där jättar (nefelim) bor, tillsammans med andra "sago figurer".
Direkt motsatts till kristendomens gehenna (helvetet - typ), vilket passar bra med samhälls-programmeringen där vissa saker är totalt omvända.


Intressant spånande där.

Jag såg att det står lite om vatten i denna artikeln:

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In "Teaching the Fa at the 2001 Canada Fa Conference", Master said, "It happens because all lives and all matter, including air and water, that are on Earth and within the Three Realms—all things that exist in the Three Realms—are composed of particles of all the different levels in the Three Realms, and different particles of different levels are interconnected." My understanding of the word "all" in "… are composed of particles of all the different levels in the Three Realms" is as follows...

[...]

It is possible that contemporary science's understanding of this dimension that we exist in is problematic. Let's put that aside for now. Let us analyze why Einstein's understanding of time and space of is superior to that of others. Einstein postulated that the speed of light is constant, and this forms the basis of his theory. I personally think that he would receive more inspiration from reading the Bible than from speculating on the extreme speed of light. It was recorded in "Genesis" of the Bible that, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day. And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters, which were under the firmament from the waters that were above the firmament: and it was so. " Jesus also said, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

Let us not talk about the surprising similarity between "Genesis" in the Bible and the ancient legends about the creation of the universe in Chinese mythology for the moment. It is clear that light in our universe is created in the very beginning...

[...]

Jag ser att det står om vatten på många ställen, lika bra att läsa hela:

Preliminary Discussion of New Science
http://www.pureinsight.org/node/1475

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Re: Hollow Earth Theory
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ah - men det var inte det jag menade
om du läser texten ordentligt så ser du att det är det första kapitlet i moseboken
och det talas om hur gud skapade havet och våra jordytor
och även homeln

Det går att dra vissa paralleller till hollow eart teorin om man bara läser 1Mosebok 1:6-7

1 Mos 1:6
P Gud sade: "I vattnet skall ett valv bli till, och det skall skilja vatten från vatten." Och det blev så.
1 Mos 1:7
Gud gjorde valvet och skilde vattnet under valvet från vattnet ovanför valvet.


I min bibel kallas "valvet" för en "öppen rymd"



sedan har man 1 Mos 2:6

"men ett flöde vällde fram ur jorden och vattnade marken"

eller

" men en dimma steg upp från jorden och vattnade hela marken"

Posted on: 2009/2/27 18:10
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Re: Hollow Earth Theory
#30
Quote:

HuMaHuMHuM skrev:
ah - men det var inte det jag menade
om du läser texten ordentligt så ser du att det är det första kapitlet i moseboken
och det talas om hur gud skapade havet och våra jordytor
och även homeln

Det går att dra vissa paralleller till hollow eart teorin om man bara läser 1Mosebok 1:6-7

1 Mos 1:6
P Gud sade: "I vattnet skall ett valv bli till, och det skall skilja vatten från vatten." Och det blev så.
1 Mos 1:7
Gud gjorde valvet och skilde vattnet under valvet från vattnet ovanför valvet.


I min bibel kallas "valvet" för en "öppen rymd"



sedan har man 1 Mos 2:6

"men ett flöde vällde fram ur jorden och vattnade marken"

eller

" men en dimma steg upp från jorden och vattnade hela marken"


Jag vet inte vad du menar riktigt, vad är"det"?

Jag vill bara spåna kring vatten i stort perspektiv, skrifter... vad står det, vad säger traditioner/metaforer o dyl, livets ursprun... hur är det, vad har det med vatten att göra osv.

Angående Dr Emoto:


Hence, he asks sharply, “Does water come from the universe?” He then answers himself forthrightly, “Let’s start with questions about the water that exists on earth. Why does water exist? The origin of water used to be wrapped in mystery. As the space probes advance, it has already been confirmed that water exists on Mars. We are starting to understand that water is not unique to earth but exists all over space.” “Everyone knows that life cannot be generated without water. If the origin of life, i.e., [b]water is from space[/b], then we can assume that human beings, are supposed to be extraterrestrial.” “If this fact is recognized, then the origin of human beings, Darwin’s theory of evolution, and other theories about earth and life’s history will be completely changed.” “Space is too big for humans and it is an unimaginable entity. The truth of the matter is that, by researching water more deeply, we may be able to understand more about space. Just the thought is so exciting.”

In a lecture given by Mr. Li Hongzhi, the founder of Falun Dafa, Mr. Li answered one of his student’s questions about the origin of life as follows: “I can tell you what is the origin of matter and life that exist in the different realms inside this celestial body of ours. Actually, the origin of matter is water. But the water that is the origin of the universe is not the earthly water of ordinary people.”

“At different levels there exist different origins of matter, which is to say different waters as origins of matter. The higher the level, the higher the density of that water. It forms different particles, different waters, and different lives in different spaces.”

“The universe that we can understand is composed of water.” (Lectures in the United States)

Hela:
http://www.pureinsight.org/node/188

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In the Yi Jing (I Ching, “Book of Changes”), it says, “Heaven generates one, one generates water, and water generates ten thousand matters. In “Chapter Eight” of the Dao De Jing (Tao Te Ching), Lao Zi (Lao Tzu) says, “The kindest people are like water—they are useful to all things and never fight with others. Water was placed in the dirtiest of places. So it is close to the Dao.” You find water in places that no one would want to be in. Therefore, it is close to the Dao. Among the thousands of things in the natural world, Lao Zi gave the most praise to water. He thought that the virtue of water is closest to the Dao (Tao). In the real world, if you observe water often, you will see your own short-comings. You will be strict with yourself and look inward when you encounter problems. This is the quality of an unselfish person.

Hela:
http://pureinsight.org/node/5652

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Det du postar från Moseboken är intressant. "Låter som olika nivåer, eller upp från/inifrån det inre till en större partikels yta, eller något.

Jorden har ersatts, funnits flera tidigare flera jordar, sägs det väl... och skapelse kan innefatta mycket, såsom att bara mena att jorden sätts samman på nytt/skapas igen. Har då som inget att göra med livets början... vår härkomst eller andliga ursprung, eller vad man nu ska säga. Skapelseberättelser är mer händelser på en viss nivå, den trefaldiga världen/Samsara och det där,som jag tänker. Därför tycker jag det kan vara av intresse att tänka kring att vi har olika nivåer inom oss, partiklar, organ osv - varje partikel som en planet med liv, en mänsklighet på dess yta. Se tråden där jag postade om Horton...

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Då det gäller hela kosmos så är ju det som kosmos genomgår inget som "styrs" av något/någon i detta kosmos, utan det gör den som är gud över detta kosmos, som har det "i sin hand". Det är ju egentligen bara som en molekylgrupp - samma som vi tänker "som i det lilla så i det stora". Som jag sagt, det är samma sak som de väsen/människor som lever på en elektrons/partikels yta i tex vår mjälte... ser när de tittar"utåt" - en ofantlig rymd, himmlar och solar... som har sina planeter där det finns sand på stränderna, och där ett sandkorn i sina molekyler har de som lever på dess yta, som när de tittar utåt ser en ofamtlig rymd osv osv, du förstår säkert.
http://vaken.se/modules/newbb/viewtop ... t_id=30338#forumpost30338

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William Blake¡¯s famous poem:

To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
Hold Infinity in the Palm of your Hand
And Eternity in an Hour ¡°[5].


Li Hongzhi likes to repeat that ¡°Budda Sakyamuni said that at the microscopic level, a grain of sand contains three thousand worlds. It is just like a universe with life and matter within. If it is true, think about it: Is there sand in the world of that grain of sand? Are there three thousand worlds in the sand from that grain of sand?If the search continues on downward, it will be endless. Therefore,¡­ Sakyamuni made this statement:¡± It¡¯s immense, without an exterior, and it¡¯s tiny, without an interior¡± [3]. This quotation may sound really mystical, but recently modern physics developed a very similar idea that self-consistency is the essence of all laws of nature.
http://fsccentre.org/Breaking%20Throu ... Scientific%20Paradigm.htm


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A Glimpse Into Other Dimensions

[...]

I picked up a small piece of wood and looked at it closely. All of a sudden, a scene appeared to me. I saw an airport inside. In the airport, there were runways and airplanes. In the sky above, some airplanes were descending to the ground. There was a helicopter, similar to helicopters in our world, spiraling above the airport. It looked like it had just taken off. What was strange was that there was a large tortoise as big as the helicopter flying behind it. The shape of this tortoise was similar to the ones we know in our world, except its tail was larger. The tortoise could also fly in the sky.

Master Li said in “Zhuan Falun” that in each sweat pore there is a city with trains and automobiles running inside. This is a description of microscopic worlds. In “Zhuan Falun Fa Explication” he elaborates further:

“Sakyamuni mentioned that in a grain of sand there were three thousand worlds. His theory was that in our Milky Way there are three thousand planets with living beings of wisdom like our human race. He said that one grain of sand contains three thousand worlds. If what he said is true, think about it, everyone, at the microscopic level, a grain of sand is as rich as the Milky Way. It contains human societies. Then, if we keep on searching, does that grain of sand contain rivers and sand? Then does each grain of sand in those worlds still contain three thousand worlds? Then, does each grain of sand in the sands of those worlds still contain three thousand worlds? Keeping on searching, Sakyamuni found that there was no end to it. Humans can only see the truth of the universe by avoiding using our human eyes, which are made of molecules. The higher the level he reaches, the more microscopic matter he can see in the microscopic realm, the larger he can see in the macroscopic realm. Sakyamuni neither saw the smallest particle of the universe nor saw the largest boundary of the universe. Therefore he said in his old age, “It is so huge that there is no exterior,” he did not know how big the universe was. “It is so tiny that there is no interior.” It is so small that he cannot see the bottom.” “Zhuan Falun Fa Explication”(unofficial translation)

In our space, materials are composed of molecules...
[...]

Hela:
http://www.pureinsight.org/node/988

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Re: Hollow Earth Theory
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Conspiracy of Science - Earth is in fact growing

Del ett

Posted on: 2009/3/2 14:37
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Quote:

patrix skrev:
Quote:

zpz2 skrev:
Novax, ditt klipp och klistrande av länkar och texter tillför knappast något vettigt till diskussionen.
Jag har förstått att du föraktar vetenskap, men gravitationsteorin blir inte mindre användbar för det.


hehe... busted...

...

DID EINSTEIN PREDICT THE DEATH OF PHYSICS?

The following two quotations are extremely important:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/genius/
"Genius Among Geniuses" by Thomas Levenson
"And then, in June, Einstein completes special relativity, which adds a twist to the story: Einstein's March paper treated light as particles, but special relativity sees light as a continuous field of waves. Alice's Red Queen can accept many impossible things before breakfast, but it takes a supremely confident mind to do so. Einstein, age 26, sees light as wave and particle, picking the attribute he needs to confront each problem in turn. Now that's tough."

Einstein at the end of his career:
"I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be based on the field concept,i.e., on continuous structures. In that case, nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics."

So Einstein knew what had happened. Perhaps at that time (1954) the death of physics was still reversible. Now there is no hope. This civilization seems to be suicidal.

....

BIG BROTHER'S WORLD AND EINSTEIN'S WORLD

In Big Brother's world truth is replaced by falsity but the identification and rejection of false statements remain essential: if 2+2=5 is declared true, 2+2=4 automatically becomes false and is rejected.

In Einstein's world true and false statements coexist in "theories". So in Einstein's theory the speed of light is both invariable and variable. "Invariable" is false, "variable" is true but this distinction does not matter. What matters is the fact that Einstein's theory "works" in the sense that millions of people make their living by teaching it, developing it, confirming it experimentally etc. It is unthinkable to disturb the integrity of the theory and threaten all those people by identifying, let alone rejecting, false statements.

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EINSTEINIANS WILL TRY TO SAVE PHYSICS

So far Einsteinians have extracted billions from two incompatible principles: the principle of INVARIABILITY of the speed of light (the speed of photons is c=300000km/s, independent of gravitational fields or of the speed of the light source) and the principle of VARIABILITY of the speed of light (the speed of photons varies in a gravitational field or with the speed of the light source and can become greater than c=300000km/s). The first principle is false but produces breathtaking miracles (time dilation, length contraction, the fabric of spacetime etc.), the second is true and can give correct predictions (e.g. the gravitational redshift factor 1+V/c^2, where V is the gravitational potential). The combination of the two principles destroys human rationality and so makes rational criticism impossible - the supremacy of the theory of relativity looks eternal.

The problem is that students (especially intelligent ones, e.g. in UK) do not wish to study absurdities anymore and physics is simply dying (departments are being closed etc.). So Einsteinians will try to save physics by abandoning the source of money Einstein created for them. Too late perhaps - some say death of science is irreversible:

http://www.politics.co.uk/press-relea ... in-uk-science-$458709.htm

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EINSTEIN AND THE END OF SCIENCE

Is there any relation between the following texts?

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf/ ... 33a-b7e3-4a09145525ca.pdf
Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures. Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary physics."

http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
Bryan Wallace: "Einstein's special relativity theory with his second postulate that the speed of light in space is constant is the linchpin that holds the whole range of modern physics theories together. Shatter this postulate, and modern physics becomes an elaborate farce!"

http://education.guardian.co.uk/universitiesincrisis/story/0,,2084784,00.html
Harry Kroto "The wrecking of British science": "Thirty per cent of physics departments have either been closed or merged in the past five years.....Do I think there is any hope for UK? I am really not sure."

-----

The following three quotations can help anyone trying to test Einstein's relativity. The first and the second belong to important educators; the third to a heretic who died a few years ago.

http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae13.cfm
" So, it is absolutely true that the speed of light is _not_ constant in a gravitational field [which, by the equivalence principle, applies as well to accelerating (non-inertial) frames of reference]. If this were not so, there would be no bending of light by the gravitational field of stars. One can do a simple Huyghens reconstruction of a wave front, taking into account the different speed of advance of the wavefront at different distances from the star (variation of speed of light), to derive the deflection of the light by the star.
Indeed, this is exactly how Einstein did the calculation in:
"On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der Physik, 35, 1911.
which predated the full formal development of general relativity by about four years. This paper is widely available in English. You can find a copy beginning on page 99 of the Dover book "The Principle of Relativity." You will find in section 3 of that paper, Einstein's derivation of the (variable) speed of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is,
c" = c0 ( 1 + V / c2 )
where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the speed of light c0 is measured. "

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics ... Light/speed_of_light.html
" Einstein went on to discover a more general theory of relativity which explained gravity in terms of curved spacetime, and he talked about the speed of light changing in this new theory. In the 1920 book "Relativity: the special and general theory" he wrote: . . . according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity [. . .] cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position. Since Einstein talks of velocity (a vector quantity: speed with direction) rather than speed alone, it is not clear that he meant the speed will change, but the reference to special relativity suggests that he did mean so. "

http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
" Shatter this postulate [of constancy of the speed of light], and modern physics becomes an elaborate farce! "


"EINSTEIN AND THE END OF SCIENCE

Is there any relation between the following texts?

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf/ ... 33a-b7e3-4a09145525ca.pdf
Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures. Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary physics."


Precis, min bäste Ensten. Apropå sten och ...castle...":

Det gåtfulla Coral Castle i Florida
Leedskalnin från Lettland övervann gravitationen?
http://www.epochtimes.se/articles/2008/12/14/16270.html

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Quote:

patrix skrev:
Quote:

patrix skrev:
Quote:

zpz2 skrev:
Novax, ditt klipp och klistrande av länkar och texter tillför knappast något vettigt till diskussionen.
Jag har förstått att du föraktar vetenskap, men gravitationsteorin blir inte mindre användbar för det.


hehe... busted...

...

DID EINSTEIN PREDICT THE DEATH OF PHYSICS?

The following two quotations are extremely important:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/genius/
"Genius Among Geniuses" by Thomas Levenson
"And then, in June, Einstein completes special relativity, which adds a twist to the story: Einstein's March paper treated light as particles, but special relativity sees light as a continuous field of waves. Alice's Red Queen can accept many impossible things before breakfast, but it takes a supremely confident mind to do so. Einstein, age 26, sees light as wave and particle, picking the attribute he needs to confront each problem in turn. Now that's tough."

Einstein at the end of his career:
"I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be based on the field concept,i.e., on continuous structures. In that case, nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics."

So Einstein knew what had happened. Perhaps at that time (1954) the death of physics was still reversible. Now there is no hope. This civilization seems to be suicidal.

....

BIG BROTHER'S WORLD AND EINSTEIN'S WORLD

In Big Brother's world truth is replaced by falsity but the identification and rejection of false statements remain essential: if 2+2=5 is declared true, 2+2=4 automatically becomes false and is rejected.

In Einstein's world true and false statements coexist in "theories". So in Einstein's theory the speed of light is both invariable and variable. "Invariable" is false, "variable" is true but this distinction does not matter. What matters is the fact that Einstein's theory "works" in the sense that millions of people make their living by teaching it, developing it, confirming it experimentally etc. It is unthinkable to disturb the integrity of the theory and threaten all those people by identifying, let alone rejecting, false statements.

-----

EINSTEINIANS WILL TRY TO SAVE PHYSICS

So far Einsteinians have extracted billions from two incompatible principles: the principle of INVARIABILITY of the speed of light (the speed of photons is c=300000km/s, independent of gravitational fields or of the speed of the light source) and the principle of VARIABILITY of the speed of light (the speed of photons varies in a gravitational field or with the speed of the light source and can become greater than c=300000km/s). The first principle is false but produces breathtaking miracles (time dilation, length contraction, the fabric of spacetime etc.), the second is true and can give correct predictions (e.g. the gravitational redshift factor 1+V/c^2, where V is the gravitational potential). The combination of the two principles destroys human rationality and so makes rational criticism impossible - the supremacy of the theory of relativity looks eternal.

The problem is that students (especially intelligent ones, e.g. in UK) do not wish to study absurdities anymore and physics is simply dying (departments are being closed etc.). So Einsteinians will try to save physics by abandoning the source of money Einstein created for them. Too late perhaps - some say death of science is irreversible:

http://www.politics.co.uk/press-relea ... in-uk-science-$458709.htm

-----

EINSTEIN AND THE END OF SCIENCE

Is there any relation between the following texts?

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf/ ... 33a-b7e3-4a09145525ca.pdf
Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures. Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary physics."

http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
Bryan Wallace: "Einstein's special relativity theory with his second postulate that the speed of light in space is constant is the linchpin that holds the whole range of modern physics theories together. Shatter this postulate, and modern physics becomes an elaborate farce!"

http://education.guardian.co.uk/universitiesincrisis/story/0,,2084784,00.html
Harry Kroto "The wrecking of British science": "Thirty per cent of physics departments have either been closed or merged in the past five years.....Do I think there is any hope for UK? I am really not sure."

-----

The following three quotations can help anyone trying to test Einstein's relativity. The first and the second belong to important educators; the third to a heretic who died a few years ago.

http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae13.cfm
" So, it is absolutely true that the speed of light is _not_ constant in a gravitational field [which, by the equivalence principle, applies as well to accelerating (non-inertial) frames of reference]. If this were not so, there would be no bending of light by the gravitational field of stars. One can do a simple Huyghens reconstruction of a wave front, taking into account the different speed of advance of the wavefront at different distances from the star (variation of speed of light), to derive the deflection of the light by the star.
Indeed, this is exactly how Einstein did the calculation in:
"On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der Physik, 35, 1911.
which predated the full formal development of general relativity by about four years. This paper is widely available in English. You can find a copy beginning on page 99 of the Dover book "The Principle of Relativity." You will find in section 3 of that paper, Einstein's derivation of the (variable) speed of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is,
c" = c0 ( 1 + V / c2 )
where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the speed of light c0 is measured. "

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics ... Light/speed_of_light.html
" Einstein went on to discover a more general theory of relativity which explained gravity in terms of curved spacetime, and he talked about the speed of light changing in this new theory. In the 1920 book "Relativity: the special and general theory" he wrote: . . . according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity [. . .] cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position. Since Einstein talks of velocity (a vector quantity: speed with direction) rather than speed alone, it is not clear that he meant the speed will change, but the reference to special relativity suggests that he did mean so. "

http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
" Shatter this postulate [of constancy of the speed of light], and modern physics becomes an elaborate farce! "


"EINSTEIN AND THE END OF SCIENCE

Is there any relation between the following texts?

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf/ ... 33a-b7e3-4a09145525ca.pdf
Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures. Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary physics."


Precis, min bäste Ensten. Apropå sten och ...castle...":

Det gåtfulla Coral Castle i Florida
Leedskalnin från Lettland övervann gravitationen?
http://www.epochtimes.se/articles/2008/12/14/16270.html



Just det patrix, "apropå att övervinna gravitationen..."

Peruvian magician Princess Inca

Svartkonst följer:

http://uk.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=101074&videoChannel=80

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJzSCAJjtFs&NR=1
Bilder på Copperfield och Criss Angl också

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huBmlaPRUzs&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFeI5OFBtus&NR=1

----

Criss Angel - Levitate In Public
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwB27P ... 2A7202&index=0&playnext=1

Criss Angel - Levitates From Building to Building
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlIwcV ... &playnext_from=PL&index=5


Criss Angel - Levitate A Women
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtR_Xk ... &playnext_from=PL&index=6

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vadå..tror du criss angel får nån att levitera på riktigt eller är länkarna menat som nåt annat??? det ser väl vem som helst hur det tricket funkar..och ser man det inte för man är blind fattar man väl ändå hur det fungerar.

Posted on: 2009/3/31 15:01
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vadå..tror du criss angel får nån att levitera på riktigt eller är länkarna menat som nåt annat??? det ser väl vem som helst hur det tricket funkar..och ser man det inte för man är blind fattar man väl ändå hur det fungerar.


Länkarna är inte menade som något speciellt utöver att visa på hur man kan göra.
Jo han kan det, och det är många som kan själva, eller om man mer är inne på demoniska saker ("svartkonst") så kan man få andra till vad som helst, fysiska lagar har ingen överordnad betydelse så.

Angel och hon prinsessan ser inte direkt ljusa ut... så de gör inte detta av "egen kraft och förmåga", antar jag.

Det var härligt att se showerna med Copperfield då han leviterade i Grand Canyon.

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Quote:

patrix skrev:
Quote:

molgan skrev:
vadå..tror du criss angel får nån att levitera på riktigt eller är länkarna menat som nåt annat??? det ser väl vem som helst hur det tricket funkar..och ser man det inte för man är blind fattar man väl ändå hur det fungerar.


Länkarna är inte menade som något speciellt utöver att visa på hur man kan göra.
Jo han kan det, och det är många som kan själva, eller om man mer är inne på demoniska saker ("svartkonst") så kan man få andra till vad som helst, fysiska lagar har ingen överordnad betydelse så.

Angel och hon prinsessan ser inte direkt ljusa ut... så de gör inte detta av "egen kraft och förmåga", antar jag.

Det var härligt att se showerna med Copperfield då han leviterade i Grand Canyon.


Några videos om levitation...:

http://www.dailymotion.com/related/x2 ... un&ajax_rnd=1238596397004

http://www.dailymotion.com/related/x1 ... on&ajax_rnd=1238596757663

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oj det brinner i tråden, då blir det en till:

Chris Angel - Dissapearing
http://www.dailymotion.com/related/x3 ... ms&ajax_rnd=1238599588984

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Kan det vara så även nu - att jorden som vi upplever den här uppe på ytan, är som atomens skal (det teologiskt materiella planet - elektronens - den som symboliserar "satan").
Och skalet har sin laddning/gravitation

Sedan är det ett tomrum - himmelen i "underjorden"

Och sedan har man atomkärnan.
En annan struktur och egenskaper...

Men jag kan inte komma på vad det skulle kunna vara eller se ut, och hur samspelet med jordytans gravitation - måste meditera lite över det (kanske kommer fram till någon som klaffar ;)!


Whoa! Vilket härligt mumbojumbo! :D Och nej, Chris Angel svävar inte på riktigt, det ser bara ut så, det kallas illusioner. :)

Godnatt.

Posted on: 2009/4/27 1:49


"Absolute certainty is a privilege of uneducated minds and fanatics" - CJ Keyser
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Seraph skrev:
Kan det vara så även nu - att jorden som vi upplever den här uppe på ytan, är som atomens skal (det teologiskt materiella planet - elektronens - den som symboliserar "satan").
Och skalet har sin laddning/gravitation

Sedan är det ett tomrum - himmelen i "underjorden"

Och sedan har man atomkärnan.
En annan struktur och egenskaper...

Men jag kan inte komma på vad det skulle kunna vara eller se ut, och hur samspelet med jordytans gravitation - måste meditera lite över det (kanske kommer fram till någon som klaffar ;)!


Whoa! Vilket härligt mumbojumbo! :D Och nej, Chris Angel svävar inte på riktigt, det ser bara ut så, det kallas illusioner. :)

Godnatt.


Bäste näve, vad får du det ifrån att han inte svävar på riktigt, har du knaprat något... ´

Ostyrig/Patrix/Novax...

http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/yt-0C ... _lake_mead_full_video.swf

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Quote:

patrix skrev:
Quote:

molgan skrev:
vadå..tror du criss angel får nån att levitera på riktigt eller är länkarna menat som nåt annat??? det ser väl vem som helst hur det tricket funkar..och ser man det inte för man är blind fattar man väl ändå hur det fungerar.


Länkarna är inte menade som något speciellt utöver att visa på hur man kan göra.
Jo han kan det, och det är många som kan själva, eller om man mer är inne på demoniska saker ("svartkonst") så kan man få andra till vad som helst, fysiska lagar har ingen överordnad betydelse så.

Angel och hon prinsessan ser inte direkt ljusa ut... så de gör inte detta av "egen kraft och förmåga", antar jag.

Det var härligt att se showerna med Copperfield då han leviterade i Grand Canyon.


"Det var härligt att se showerna med Copperfield då han leviterade i Grand Canyon."

Nu rockas det loss ordentligt, vem är det som så enträget frågar efter mig, är det Kim Wilde?

http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/yt-2S ... over_the_grand_canyon.swf

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Jag vill uppmana alla att undersöka hollow earth med öppet sinne innan ni bestämmer er för en åsikt.
Som jag förstått teorin så förutsätter den att ALLA planeter är ihåliga.
Det är ett tag sen jag lyssnade på några intervjuer om hollow earth men jag vill minnas att den förklarade en del anomalier inom "solid earth"-teorin(om man får kalla det teori utan att folk blir vansinniga )


Vi bör förstå hur befängt det är att avfärda kunskap på grund av att den verkar orimlig, för rimlighet är till fullo en manifestation av din nuvarande kunskap; det är din dagsaktuella sfär av kunskap som bedömer vad du anser är sannolikt eller inte.

Så låt oss avfärda alla fördomar och förutfattade idéer vi har och istället forska som sanna vetenskapsmän. Låt oss sluta agera i denna kognitiva dissonans som bara fortsätter projektera en falsk verklighet, och i stället genomborra sanningens tempel. Låt oss göra det esoteriska exoteriskt!

Posted on: 2009/6/13 19:26
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När dom började bygga tunnelbanor på artonhundratalet i storstäderna fanns det en del som såg en konspiration med invånare från jordens inre inblandade. Tunnelbanorna skulle användas för att invadera huvudstäderna nerifrån, deras trupper skulle alltså myllra uppför trapporna och börja slåss uppe på gatorna. Tjaa? Men har det inte blivit egendomligt tyst om järnvägsbygget genom Hallandsåsen?

Posted on: 2009/11/10 18:59
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Allting är som det upplevs av betraktaren. Tänk er att målvakten skall göra en utspark i ett fullsatt Ullevi. Han får en perfekt träff och bollen far iväg uppåt men när den passerar mittstrecket försvinner plötsligt hela Universum. Bara bollen blir kvar. Nu till frågan! Snurrar den?

Posted on: 2009/12/10 23:56
"Använd skallen, Nollan! Om inte vi kan se dom, hur fan skall dom kunna se oss???" (Knasen, 1967)
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lol, man ser ju repet han hänger från i filmen i inlägg 39

Posted on: 2009/12/25 19:36
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Om jorden har en bebodd insida skulle exempelvis deras radar riktas uppåt eftersom en horisont ju saknas. Onekligen praktiskt om inte annat. Däremot är det förvånande att inte fler har hört om den kedja av underjordiska saltsjöar som ligger under det nästan uttorkade s.k sarmatiska havet. Det täckte ett område från den ungersk-rumänska gränsen ända bort till områdena norr om Tibet. Kaspiska havet och flera andra saltsjöar är djupa depressioner men det finns helt dolda hav. Det finns sägner om hur man lyckats segla hela vägen senast på 1940-talet!

Posted on: 2009/12/25 21:03
"Använd skallen, Nollan! Om inte vi kan se dom, hur fan skall dom kunna se oss???" (Knasen, 1967)
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Quote:

patrix skrev:
Quote:

patrix skrev:
Quote:

zpz2 skrev:
Novax, ditt klipp och klistrande av länkar och texter tillför knappast något vettigt till diskussionen.
Jag har förstått att du föraktar vetenskap, men gravitationsteorin blir inte mindre användbar för det.


hehe... busted...

...

DID EINSTEIN PREDICT THE DEATH OF PHYSICS?

The following two quotations are extremely important:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/genius/
"Genius Among Geniuses" by Thomas Levenson
"And then, in June, Einstein completes special relativity, which adds a twist to the story: Einstein's March paper treated light as particles, but special relativity sees light as a continuous field of waves. Alice's Red Queen can accept many impossible things before breakfast, but it takes a supremely confident mind to do so. Einstein, age 26, sees light as wave and particle, picking the attribute he needs to confront each problem in turn. Now that's tough."

Einstein at the end of his career:
"I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be based on the field concept,i.e., on continuous structures. In that case, nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics."

So Einstein knew what had happened. Perhaps at that time (1954) the death of physics was still reversible. Now there is no hope. This civilization seems to be suicidal.

....

BIG BROTHER'S WORLD AND EINSTEIN'S WORLD

In Big Brother's world truth is replaced by falsity but the identification and rejection of false statements remain essential: if 2+2=5 is declared true, 2+2=4 automatically becomes false and is rejected.

In Einstein's world true and false statements coexist in "theories". So in Einstein's theory the speed of light is both invariable and variable. "Invariable" is false, "variable" is true but this distinction does not matter. What matters is the fact that Einstein's theory "works" in the sense that millions of people make their living by teaching it, developing it, confirming it experimentally etc. It is unthinkable to disturb the integrity of the theory and threaten all those people by identifying, let alone rejecting, false statements.

-----

EINSTEINIANS WILL TRY TO SAVE PHYSICS

So far Einsteinians have extracted billions from two incompatible principles: the principle of INVARIABILITY of the speed of light (the speed of photons is c=300000km/s, independent of gravitational fields or of the speed of the light source) and the principle of VARIABILITY of the speed of light (the speed of photons varies in a gravitational field or with the speed of the light source and can become greater than c=300000km/s). The first principle is false but produces breathtaking miracles (time dilation, length contraction, the fabric of spacetime etc.), the second is true and can give correct predictions (e.g. the gravitational redshift factor 1+V/c^2, where V is the gravitational potential). The combination of the two principles destroys human rationality and so makes rational criticism impossible - the supremacy of the theory of relativity looks eternal.

The problem is that students (especially intelligent ones, e.g. in UK) do not wish to study absurdities anymore and physics is simply dying (departments are being closed etc.). So Einsteinians will try to save physics by abandoning the source of money Einstein created for them. Too late perhaps - some say death of science is irreversible:

http://www.politics.co.uk/press-relea ... in-uk-science-$458709.htm

-----

EINSTEIN AND THE END OF SCIENCE

Is there any relation between the following texts?

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf/ ... 33a-b7e3-4a09145525ca.pdf
Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures. Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary physics."

http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
Bryan Wallace: "Einstein's special relativity theory with his second postulate that the speed of light in space is constant is the linchpin that holds the whole range of modern physics theories together. Shatter this postulate, and modern physics becomes an elaborate farce!"

http://education.guardian.co.uk/universitiesincrisis/story/0,,2084784,00.html
Harry Kroto "The wrecking of British science": "Thirty per cent of physics departments have either been closed or merged in the past five years.....Do I think there is any hope for UK? I am really not sure."

-----

The following three quotations can help anyone trying to test Einstein's relativity. The first and the second belong to important educators; the third to a heretic who died a few years ago.

http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae13.cfm
" So, it is absolutely true that the speed of light is _not_ constant in a gravitational field [which, by the equivalence principle, applies as well to accelerating (non-inertial) frames of reference]. If this were not so, there would be no bending of light by the gravitational field of stars. One can do a simple Huyghens reconstruction of a wave front, taking into account the different speed of advance of the wavefront at different distances from the star (variation of speed of light), to derive the deflection of the light by the star.
Indeed, this is exactly how Einstein did the calculation in:
"On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der Physik, 35, 1911.
which predated the full formal development of general relativity by about four years. This paper is widely available in English. You can find a copy beginning on page 99 of the Dover book "The Principle of Relativity." You will find in section 3 of that paper, Einstein's derivation of the (variable) speed of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is,
c" = c0 ( 1 + V / c2 )
where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the speed of light c0 is measured. "

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics ... Light/speed_of_light.html
" Einstein went on to discover a more general theory of relativity which explained gravity in terms of curved spacetime, and he talked about the speed of light changing in this new theory. In the 1920 book "Relativity: the special and general theory" he wrote: . . . according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity [. . .] cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position. Since Einstein talks of velocity (a vector quantity: speed with direction) rather than speed alone, it is not clear that he meant the speed will change, but the reference to special relativity suggests that he did mean so. "

http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
" Shatter this postulate [of constancy of the speed of light], and modern physics becomes an elaborate farce! "


"EINSTEIN AND THE END OF SCIENCE

Is there any relation between the following texts?

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf/ ... 33a-b7e3-4a09145525ca.pdf
Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures. Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary physics."


Precis, min bäste Ensten. Apropå sten och ...castle...":

Det gåtfulla Coral Castle i Florida
Leedskalnin från Lettland övervann gravitationen?
http://www.epochtimes.se/articles/2008/12/14/16270.html


Precis min bäste Patrix.

Här är lite till med Ledskalnin:

CORAL CASTLE of Ed Leedskalnin
http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_coralcastle1.htm

----

Reprint from Ed Leedskalnin Advertisement
The Miami Daily News 1945

Attention Researchers!

Read about magnetic current...
http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_coralcastle2.htm

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Om jorden vore ihålig skulle gravitationen inuti fungera precis som den nu gör på jordytan på grund av centrifugalkraften, åtminstone vid ekvatorn.
Ändå förnekas att centrifugalkraften vid ekvatorn gör saker lättare! Som bevis anför man att ett kilo är ett kilo även vid ekvatorn. Vilket strunt! Man märker direkt att man känner sig lättare när man traskar omkring vid ekvatorn. Dessutom finns det runt om hela klotet ett bälte av stora lösa stenar som ligger längs ekvatorn. Orsaken är dock inte helt utredd.
Jorden är ju också "tillplattad" vid polerna vilket givetvis beror på att gravitationen måste vara starkare där.
Omvänt borde ju en ihålig jord sakna utåtriktad gravitation vid polerna och en resande inuti klotet som närmade sig en pol skulle då falla neråt mot ekvatorn.
Därför hittade hollow-earth-anhängare under artonhundratalet på en teori om "polarhål" och ansåg att det fanns bevis för dessa eftersom man fann en del tång, gröna kvistar och annat uppe vid iskanten som naturligtvis kom söderifrån. Men man påstod att de kommit inifrån klotet.
Må var och en bli lycklig på sin tro men jag vet att ingendera har 100% rätt!

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Asgeir skrev:
Ändå förnekas att centrifugalkraften vid ekvatorn gör saker lättare!


Nej, riktigt så är det inte. Tyngdaccelerationen på jordytan (också kallad jordaccelerationen) varierar mellan 9,78 och 9,83 m/s2 beroende på position (främst latitud, men även topografin spelar in)

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Vill tillägga att kraften in mot centrum kallas Centripitalkraft



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Jorden är ju också "tillplattad" vid polerna vilket givetvis beror på att gravitationen måste vara starkare där.


Gravitationskraften är i stort sett lika stor överallt (beroende litelite på topografin), men Tyngdaccelerationen varierar pga olika centripitalkrafter på olika ställen på jorden (som beror på latituden).

Men det här är bara en definitionsdiskussion... vad orden betyder.

Jag vill med detta bara säga att det tas hänsyn till viktminskning nära ekvatorn (och alla andra ställen på jorden också).

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Må var och en bli lycklig på sin tro men jag vet att ingendera har 100% rätt!



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